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Title: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: bacillus on March 24, 2009, 07:17:14 pm
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Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: vwrascal on March 24, 2009, 07:21:58 pm
thanks for that, im well paranoid now, ive done 24k!   :scared:   what the hell is seafoam??  engine flush?!!
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: jonnyc on March 24, 2009, 08:31:38 pm
thanks for that, im well paranoid now, ive done 24k!   :scared:   what the hell is seafoam??  engine flush?!!

Big problem, as the injectors dont flush the valves, the PCV being routed back into the inlet manifold cokes the valves up really badly..

One of the big reasons I have always ran the PCV to atmosphere..
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: cmdrfire on March 24, 2009, 08:51:05 pm
US-spec engines aren't properly lean burn as well are they?
Crikey, I've done 80k, shudder to think what mine look like.
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: bacillus on March 24, 2009, 09:02:07 pm
US-spec engines aren't properly lean burn as well are they?


No, they aren't set up for stratified mode as they have high sulphur fuel.
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: garethmk1 on March 24, 2009, 10:29:07 pm
thanks for that, im well paranoid now, ive done 24k!   :scared:   what the hell is seafoam??  engine flush?!!

Big problem, as the injectors dont flush the valves, the PCV being routed back into the inlet manifold cokes the valves up really badly..

One of the big reasons I have always ran the PCV to atmosphere..

This is one of the trade offs of direct injection - how have you routed the PCV to atmosphere ? Do you have any pics ???

Regards,

Gareth
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: bacillus on March 24, 2009, 10:40:17 pm
Just be aware that venting the pcv to the atmosphere as suggested will, in all likelyhood, cause you to fail the MOT emission test.
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: garethmk1 on March 24, 2009, 10:59:05 pm
Just reconnect for MOT ???

Any pictures of a vent to atmosphere PCV ?

Regards,

Gareth
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: KRL on March 24, 2009, 11:00:25 pm
BSH are working on a solution.  More info here:
http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=77288
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: cmdrfire on March 25, 2009, 04:17:08 pm
Vent to atmo = bad for environment, mmkay?
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: neg on March 25, 2009, 06:05:34 pm
I thought BSH already did one - which Bacillus has fitted ... ?
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: cmdrfire on March 25, 2009, 06:08:39 pm
That's a catch can which does not vent to atmo. This "race can" does.
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: bacillus on March 25, 2009, 07:32:17 pm
I thought BSH already did one - which Bacillus has fitted ... ?
As stated above, my setup is closed to the atmosphere.   :smiley:
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: garethmk1 on March 25, 2009, 07:38:19 pm
Can we get some pics up ? I'm not really bothered with it venting to atmosphere - is it just a case of a bespoke filter ?

Regards,

Gareth
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: bacillus on March 25, 2009, 07:51:05 pm
Can we get some pics up ? I'm not really bothered with it venting to atmosphere - is it just a case of a bespoke filter ?

Regards,

Gareth

No, you have a new machined metal block replacing your oem pcv and hoses that go to and from the block to the can.

Here is a pic of ukdub's install.

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Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: garethmk1 on March 25, 2009, 07:56:48 pm
Expensive ?
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: bacillus on March 25, 2009, 08:31:12 pm
Expensive ?

http://www.bshspeedshop.com/store/product.php?productid=16952&cat=1011&page=1
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: ukdub on March 26, 2009, 09:43:12 am
It is expensive for what you get, not for what is does.  Also I didn't like their catch can design so I have now fitted one of these.

http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/content.asp?inc=product&cat=&product=FMUNCT

Someone over this side of the pond could make something like this.  Suprised Forge don't do it.  They already have a catch can.
Maybe if enough of you lot ask, they will make something.


Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: bacillus on March 26, 2009, 07:28:45 pm
It is expensive for what you get, not for what is does.  Also I didn't like their catch can design so I have now fitted one of these.

http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/content.asp?inc=product&cat=&product=FMUNCT

Someone over this side of the pond could make something like this.  Suprised Forge don't do it.  They already have a catch can.
Maybe if enough of you lot ask, they will make something.




Do you have a pic with the new can installed?
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: ukdub on March 27, 2009, 05:20:26 pm
It is expensive for what you get, not for what is does.  Also I didn't like their catch can design so I have now fitted one of these.

http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/content.asp?inc=product&cat=&product=FMUNCT

Someone over this side of the pond could make something like this.  Suprised Forge don't do it.  They already have a catch can.
Maybe if enough of you lot ask, they will make something.




Do you have a pic with the new can installed?

Here you go

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Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: bacillus on March 27, 2009, 07:18:33 pm
Cheers for that.  :happy2:

Being able to see the level of the can's content is a big plus.
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: RedRobin on May 10, 2009, 03:32:29 pm
^^^^
That looks pretty tidy.

The only problem I can see is if the can competes for location with some aftermarket intake filters.
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: chungster on May 10, 2009, 03:44:26 pm
well there's no chance of jonnyc fitting that catch can in that position in his engine bay, now that he has a monster air filter filling up that space lol.

but looks a tidy set up tho.

Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: edition_30 on May 11, 2009, 09:24:44 am
If I wanted to vent to atmosphere would I just run 2 pipes from the valves on the block?  Is one of the valves not a return? If so then could I not just block one up?
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: bacillus on May 11, 2009, 09:38:23 am
If I wanted to vent to atmosphere would I just run 2 pipes from the valves on the block?  Is one of the valves not a return? If so then could I not just block one up?

BSH are going to release a race catch can that does exactly what you are after. It's actually in the pre-order phase.

Be aware that you may not pass your emissions test in the MOT with it installed.
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: edition_30 on May 11, 2009, 10:54:37 am
Cool.. but im not after a can.. i was thinking of just venting to atmosphere and then return to factory fit come mot time...

Does anybody know which valve is the send and which one i can block up

Thanks
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: bacillus on May 11, 2009, 11:51:34 pm
I believe the race set up blocks off the port to the far left in the pic below. That port is used for allowing  the crank case pressure to be vented back into the intake.

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Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: edition_30 on June 22, 2009, 11:50:50 am
Thanks for the reply's guys... im going to order the bsh stage 2... Just a shame nobody over here sells the kit...

How often do you have to empty the can?

Also the guys in the states talk about cleaning the intake valves using sea foam... Anybody tried this?
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on June 22, 2009, 01:30:38 pm
I believe the race set up blocks off the port to the far left in the pic below. That port is used for allowing  the crank case pressure to be vented back into the intake.

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Is this available for Leon Cupra???

**edit,  Tfsi Leon cupra.  Is this recomended?
Title: Re: Check out the condition of these valves after only 22k miles...
Post by: Teutonic_Tamer on October 22, 2009, 12:52:13 pm
US-spec engines aren't properly lean burn as well are they?


No, they aren't set up for stratified mode as they have high sulphur fuel.

An they also use considerably lower spec oils, which are neither 'FSI' approved, and nor are they low SAPS.