MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: raped by a mini
Post by: stealthwolf on March 24, 2009, 11:20:06 pm
Ok it wasn't a little mini but it was a Skoda Fabia VRS 1.9litre TDI 4dr manual 130bhp (checked the reg online).

Was going round some bends and straight roads (NSL DC) and this thing roared past me and was holding it together quite well on the bends - I had to slow down for some of them.

Anyone had any experience with these in terms of handling?

I seriously think I need a remap + better suspension + driving lessons after that experience.
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: bacillus on March 24, 2009, 11:28:43 pm
Those cars can be quite torquey with a remap plus they don't weigh much...
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: SO8 on March 24, 2009, 11:33:02 pm
A mad driver will always be quicker ..... I never worry when someone leaves me behind if I am happy with how I drove - it happens a fair bit but I would rather be safe and well  :wink:
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: vRStu on March 24, 2009, 11:38:21 pm
Nippy little fella's aren't they  :signLOL:
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: Hedge on March 24, 2009, 11:39:01 pm
They are a completely underestimated sleeper as you have found out Stealth. :wink:
Nevermind. Hopefully it was a mapped one.
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: wigit on March 24, 2009, 11:42:45 pm
stealth that car on both top gear and fifth gear was quicker than a mini cooper around the track
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: 182_blue on March 25, 2009, 06:21:48 am
stealth that car on both top gear and fifth gear was quicker than a mini cooper around the track
only just and it was a normal cooper and not the charger or turbo version

Stealth it was likely to me running about 170+bhp so not that bad, you do need a remap LOL , I had a yellow one trying to chase me a whole ago and I succesfully pulled quote a bit on him especially after he hit his rev limiter :signLOL:
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: WhiteGTI on March 25, 2009, 07:13:07 am
I think its all about the driver to be honest.

We've all heard the story from a couple years ago when that professional driving instructor (Ive forgotten his name now) was lapping faster in a Golf 140tdi than people in Ariel Atoms, Exiges, Elises, Caterhams......all because he could drive and they couldnt. I should really find the weblink at some point.
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: Top Cat on March 25, 2009, 07:18:57 am
I think its all about the driver to be honest.


I agree with you Chris Stealth cant drive.   :driver:

Stealth stop posting up such embarrasing stories and bringing the GTI name into disrepute.  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: Hedge on March 25, 2009, 07:49:17 am
This is a friend of mines Fabia.


Be afraid. :laugh:
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: T88OMM on March 25, 2009, 09:46:49 am
These really are quick when they are mapped and there are some going round that are 260+ BHP with the aid of a hybrid turbo  :drool:
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: Greeners on March 25, 2009, 09:51:40 am
One thing I will say stealth is that in standard form they roll like the Titanic!  :confused:
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: jonnyc on March 25, 2009, 10:36:59 am
This is a friend of mines Fabia.


Be afraid. :laugh:

Of the smoke cloud??  :wink:
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: cmdrfire on March 25, 2009, 04:19:22 pm
Needs more ARDS training.
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: vRStu on March 25, 2009, 06:24:37 pm
This is a friend of mines Fabia.


Be afraid. :laugh:

Pretty sure Jason is a member here.
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: TomB on March 25, 2009, 06:33:45 pm
Ah Jason's car is immense!  Top bloke too!

I used to have an Ibiza Cupra TDI which was a Fabia vRS with a bigger turbo and uprated suspension components, Revo got it up to 198bhp and 298lb/ft.  For keeping up with things it was great, I even embarrassed a brand new Boxster with it.  The handling was a bit poor though, compared to the MK5 GTI its lame...the platform is specific to them but theres a lot of MK4 Golf parts on there and thats its downfall.  They've got a lot of bang for the buck, but something has to give to stay competitive.
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: Hedge on March 25, 2009, 06:56:25 pm
Pretty sure Jason is a member here.

I think he is. TDIFurby if I remember correctly.
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: Phil Mcavity on March 25, 2009, 07:02:20 pm
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I think its all about the driver to be honest.


I agree with you Chris Stealth cant drive.   :driver:

Stealth stop posting up such embarrasing stories and bringing the GTI name into disrepute.  :evilgrin:

he cant park either! :signLOL:
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: winrya on March 25, 2009, 07:10:55 pm
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I think its all about the driver to be honest.


I agree with you Chris Stealth cant drive.   :driver:

Stealth stop posting up such embarrasing stories and bringing the GTI name into disrepute.  :evilgrin:

he cant park either! :signLOL:

I hope its a remapped car.  My missus had a mini cooper (which the vrs was very slightly quicker than on the top gear track) and that was slow slow slow.  The cooper s (170bhp) she has now feels like a 1.2 when i step from mine to hers.   I remember having plenty of fun down a country lane a good while back only to be passed by an absolute loon in a battered vectra.  Knowing the roads and having no fear can make up for large power differences.  I love to have fun but go nowhere near my cars limit on public roads, i ended up in a field many years ago and never want to repeat that again :innocent:
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: stealthwolf on March 25, 2009, 07:20:28 pm
The road was a dual carriageway so it'd be interesting to see how it behaved on some properly curvy SCs.

Nousey, not quite sure what you mean by "roll like the titanic" but there wasn't as much body roll as I was expecting.
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: candy turbo on March 25, 2009, 08:27:04 pm
my other halfs fabia vrs has been mapped and it flies !!!!! it dont handle brilliantly but it can embarress loads of people who think its only a skoda  :happy2: only a few weeks ago 2 guys in a mk3 vr6 were hovering around !! so i decided to go , and left them like the vr6 was in reverse :P
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: Toast on March 25, 2009, 10:45:27 pm
My mates got a wee black Vrs mapped to 180bhp Torquey as a Mofo :surprised:  Complete sleeper but agree with the handling bit poop :driver:

Toast
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: vRStu on March 25, 2009, 11:00:47 pm
Jabba rear ARB deals with most of the rolling problems.

Next step is the SEAT Sport (Ibiza) front ARB, FSD's and Eibach.

Tight as a nuns chuff with that lot on it.
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: Toast on March 25, 2009, 11:18:11 pm
Think he's going for the Jabba ARB's next  :happy2: Got Fk silverlines on it just now but they ain't that good


Toast
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: hotrod30 on March 26, 2009, 08:57:29 am
Hi Stealthwolf,

What colour was the Fabia Vrs? I’ve got 2 buddies at work who own... one silver... one red... both petrolheads & members of Briskoda.

There in Christchurch, so could be them?

Info req. matey   :smiley:
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: stealthwolf on March 26, 2009, 01:44:30 pm
It was red mate. Think one of the reg's began with YS?
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: hotrod30 on March 26, 2009, 01:56:39 pm
Cheers Stealthy... not my buddies this time...  :happy2:
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: RedRobin on March 26, 2009, 07:11:52 pm
....

A friend is in the process of building a stealth Fabia VRS. He's a very highly qualified MOD driver and frankly can be extremely fast whatever he drives - It's his profession.

The skills of the driver play a big part imo.

Chris, it was Don Palmer who annihilated the 'faster' cars.
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: WhiteGTI on March 27, 2009, 09:25:04 am
....

A friend is in the process of building a stealth Fabia VRS. He's a very highly qualified MOD driver and frankly can be extremely fast whatever he drives - It's his profession.

The skills of the driver play a big part imo.

Chris, it was Don Palmer who annihilated the 'faster' cars.

 :happy2: :happy2:

Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: stealthwolf on March 27, 2009, 11:48:30 am
Is that the guy who does the driving skills RR was on about awhiles back?
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: RedRobin on March 27, 2009, 12:26:57 pm

Is that the guy who does the driving skills RR was on about awhiles back?


....Yes, one of them. Such courses remap your brain!

Don Palmer is top notch for track training. I'd recommend Big John at Drivetrain for fast road - He trains 'blue lighters'.
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: stealthwolf on March 27, 2009, 12:31:38 pm
Big John at Drivetrain for fast road - He trains 'blue lighters'.

Doubt I'd ever take the GTI onto a proper track (until it has some mods). But would love to able to handle the car properly at high speeds, as well as learning the limits of my car. IS that the one you'd recommend.
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: RedRobin on March 27, 2009, 12:44:58 pm
Big John at Drivetrain for fast road - He trains 'blue lighters'.

Doubt I'd ever take the GTI onto a proper track (until it has some mods). But would love to able to handle the car properly at high speeds, as well as learning the limits of my car. IS that the one you'd recommend.


....Without any hesitation I'd recommend doing firstly CarLimits to explore the limits of your car off public road in open space. 2 or 4-car day is best (in your own car - Mine was 11 mpg and a set of tyres!)

Then as a follow up, Drivetrain for roadcraft.

Also get a copy of the latest edition "The Police Driver's Handbook Roadcraft" if you can. You'll already know some of it but it's still good and extremely well illustrated.

Linky : - CarLimits Info (http://www.carlimits.com/script/viewEvents.php?type=airfieldtraining&month=20070101)

Linky : - DriveTrain Info (http://www.drivetrain.uk.com/)

I guess you need to budget just under £400 for both but you get to keep the brain remap when you change car!

HTH :happy2:

P.S. - I'm gonna write and post a Review on these courses asap (job # 432!!)
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: WhiteGTI on March 27, 2009, 12:59:06 pm
^^ This will be an excellent topic. Most people get carried away with adding performance/handling modifications whereas the main influence on how fast a car goes or how well it handles is the actual inputs and skills of the driver.
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on March 27, 2009, 11:22:37 pm
stealth that car on both top gear and fifth gear was quicker than a mini cooper around the track
only just and it was a normal cooper and not the charger or turbo version

Stealth it was likely to me running about 170+bhp so not that bad, you do need a remap LOL , I had a yellow one trying to chase me a whole ago and I succesfully pulled quote a bit on him especially after he hit his rev limiter :signLOL:
Was that around Notts Shaun? If so I bet it's the same one that came sniffing round me a while back..  :grin:
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: candy turbo on March 28, 2009, 04:10:43 am
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 yellow ones are the fastest    :laugh:
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: RedRobin on March 28, 2009, 10:54:09 am
^^^^
Nice plate! Shame about the car!  :evilgrin: [just joking]
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: stevie_p on March 28, 2009, 11:57:06 am
back to the topic of getting raped by a mini, well i had a similar experiance on A19 yesterday. i found myself behind a white BMW 57 plate M3, i thought a bit of playful banter may be on the cards, until i looked in my rear view and there was an Audi R8 right up me arse!!! i sheepishly pulled in and let the big boys play!! :embarrassed:
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: T88OMM on March 31, 2009, 01:23:30 pm
back to the topic of getting raped by a mini, well i had a similar experiance on A19 yesterday. i found myself behind a white BMW 57 plate M3, i thought a bit of playful banter may be on the cards, until i looked in my rear view and there was an Audi R8 right up me arse!!! i sheepishly pulled in and let the big boys play!! :embarrassed:

 :grin: :grin: :grin:

Do you have a remapped Edition 30?? If so I would have been playing with the big boys, NO DOUBT!  :jumpmove:

I came together with both of these cars in my old ED30, the M3 went nowhere I stayed on his back bumper and the R8 only pulled on me slightly  :rolleye:
Title: Re: raped by a mini
Post by: stevie_p on March 31, 2009, 04:50:41 pm
nah just a regular ald mk5 gti :grin: had the e46 for couple months and that was quick, but not as fun as my gti :happy2: