MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: JackG on August 14, 2011, 10:04:02 am
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Hi guys, my ed30 is currently running 300bhp with a twintake fitted but I'm planning to go stage 3 in the future
Just curious to see what would be needed to hit 400bhp+?
my list so far (no handling mods in the list but are on the cards)
Revo stage 3 map
Blueflame hybrid TBE (end of this month)
S3 intercooler
Forge twintercooler....I can get the s3 cooler at cost so may aswell
S3 injectors
Autotech hpfp internalls
Forge hoses plus the high end discharge pipes fron awsome
Am I right in saying all the above should see me to 340/350 bhp?
So maybe a hybrid turbo would put me near the 400bhp? Is there more lag with stage 3 and a hybrid turbo?
Any help would be great :smiley:
Jack
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You already have S3 injectors if you have an ED30.
Stage 2+ with the mods you have listed will get you around the 350bhp mark, I would also add the RS4 fuel pressure relief valve to that list as well as a decent intake.
Revo Stage 3 is for the GT3071 turbo but then you will be in the area of needing engine internals (pistons, values, etc) so you will be talking big money. This will have a lot more lag so won't be as drivable as your current setup.
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You saying his forge twintake already on the car is not "decent" :surprised: :grin:
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You already have S3 injectors if you have an ED30.
Stage 2+ with the mods you have listed will get you around the 350bhp mark, I would also add the RS4 fuel pressure relief valve to that list as well as a decent intake.
Revo Stage 3 is for the GT3071 turbo but then you will be in the area of needing engine internals (pistons, values, etc) so you will be talking big money. This will have a lot more lag so won't be as drivable as your current setup.
I don't like lag lol, can we add anti lag? I think thats were ive got confused.....rs4 valve? What does it do? Am I right in saying pepole with k03 use s3 injectors?
Jack
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You saying his forge twintake already on the car is not "decent" :surprised: :grin:
Well..............
I didn't see in his original post listed the twintake, all I say was twin this twin that, forge blah blah blah :wink: :P :P
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You already have S3 injectors if you have an ED30.
Stage 2+ with the mods you have listed will get you around the 350bhp mark, I would also add the RS4 fuel pressure relief valve to that list as well as a decent intake.
Revo Stage 3 is for the GT3071 turbo but then you will be in the area of needing engine internals (pistons, values, etc) so you will be talking big money. This will have a lot more lag so won't be as drivable as your current setup.
I don't like lag lol, can we add anti lag? I think thats were ive got confused.....rs4 valve? What does it do? Am I right in saying pepole with k03 use s3 injectors?
Jack
Yes people use the S3 injectors when upgrading from a K03 to a K04, for stage 3 with a GT3071R Revo list the RS4 injectors as being required as well.
RS4 valve helps maintain the 130 bar pressure that is requested on a lot of the stage 2+ maps.
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130 bar! Is this part of the hpfp?
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Yes the high pressure fuel pumps on the TFSI engine when upgraded will be requested to reach 130bar on stage 2+ code.
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Just to be technically correct, the rs4 valve will open at 136 bar vs the standard valve at 130 bar. :smiley:
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You need some Lambo rims Jack ;)
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You need some Lambo rims Jack ;)
Yes I do now thanks to you! How's the coils? :smiley:
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Beautiful thanks buddy! Puts the rest of the engine bay to shame
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Nitros. :jumping:
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a gt28 will go to over 400 so you dont need a gt30 .
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A hybrid k04 with giac mapping plus all the necessary hardware has shown over 400hp at flywheel
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I don't think much over 300hp is worth considering, 320 on a Revo 2 is as far as I would go. I tried a twintercooler and upped boost and timing, yes it was quicker in a straight line but it REALLY reminded me that with front wheel drive and no LSD it's a compromised set up
P Zero's, TT arms, carefully set up suspension PSS10, WALK, neuspeed roll bars, bottom engine mount REVO 2 and the compromise is tolerable. I really didn't like the car with more power. Moving from an M5, then a well set up E92 M3 for me north of 320 HP is too much for the GTi, its time to look at other things after that, things with RWD or 4WD and LSD's IMO.
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Surely 400 in these ed30s is just tyre eating power! No front wheel car should have that much surely??
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Hurdys ED30 was around the 400 mark and that was bloody rapid
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I bet! Didn't it go pop though? What's he got now??
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Like Carrera points out, you get to the point where it just becomes unusable. I also think that much over 300bhp and your just chasing numbers for numbers sake.
Bare in mind that the BTCC cars all have ~300bhp, and if its enough for them its enough for anyone on here.
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I bet! Didn't it go pop though? What's he got now??
Went a bit mental with NOS jets lol.
Lexus & Polo Gti was on the cards