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Title: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: DaveR77 on August 15, 2011, 08:15:09 pm
Just ordered one of the VW Cruise Control kits. Can anybody recommend a decent guide to fit it? ('07 model)
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: shugyboi on August 15, 2011, 08:51:01 pm
the instructions you get show its fairly straight forward. even programming it is simple. just need vag com or something similar to activate it  :happy2:
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: DaveR77 on August 18, 2011, 09:34:39 am
Has anyone got a good guide with pics?
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: shugyboi on August 19, 2011, 04:34:47 pm
you buying a brand new one still in box?
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: ianc1990 on September 04, 2011, 03:40:26 pm
Not sure if this is helpful in any way but its not too hard to do...

You need to remove the airbag, Remove the Steering wheel, Swap out the stalk, plug everything back in then code it in using VCDS.

There is a cable that you sometimes need to fit but I think most cars already have it installed in the standard loom.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 08, 2011, 02:43:50 pm
I am looking for a decent guide for this, I found one on the ukmkiv forum but it seemed far more involved than I expected, removing wind screen wipers etc......
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Tamiyoman on November 08, 2011, 04:46:15 pm
I remember having one fitted on my MK4 and yes the wipers were removed and a panel accessed to plug in some wires (5 years ago now), but watching EDDIE_NL do it on my ED30 (For the sake of paying him £90 fitted) it was much easier and he did the work and coded it for me (best £30 spent on labour ever!).

Battery disconnected, Airbag and steering wheel removed, then plug in new stalk, battery re-connected, then steering wheel back on and airbag back on and then coding work done.

Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: QD MBE on November 08, 2011, 06:11:31 pm
Rocco Guide with pics (same as Mk5)

http://www.sciroccocentral.co.uk/roccopedia/index.php?title=Fit_Cruise_Control (http://www.sciroccocentral.co.uk/roccopedia/index.php?title=Fit_Cruise_Control)
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: MPS on November 08, 2011, 06:32:28 pm
If anyone's in Staffs and wants this fitting to their car I'll do it for some beer tokens as I did mine at the weekend and now I know what I'm doing it's a doddle.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: MPS on November 08, 2011, 06:34:24 pm
You also need a Torque wrench for tightening the steering wheel bolt back up to 50Nm.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 09, 2011, 04:51:40 pm
Rocco Guide with pics (same as Mk5)

http://www.sciroccocentral.co.uk/roccopedia/index.php?title=Fit_Cruise_Control (http://www.sciroccocentral.co.uk/roccopedia/index.php?title=Fit_Cruise_Control)

Excellent guide, apart from the lack of explanation when releasing the clip on the module/steering column - it took me longer to figure that out than the rest of the job!  :stupid:

As mentioned by MPS, now I've done it once I could do it again in record time, so if anyone in the Kent area needs assistance PM me.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 10, 2011, 08:52:13 am
the instructions you get show its fairly straight forward. even programming it is simple. just need vag com or something similar to activate it  :happy2:

Mine didn't come with instructions but as you say fairly straightforward to fit.

Regarding coding, can anyone tell what is required, is it a simple job that a VCDS owner would be able to do without instruction?
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: jedi-knight83 on November 10, 2011, 10:05:13 am
Here you go :)

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,35449.0.html

That was on my caddy but should be pretty similar for the golf
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 10, 2011, 12:29:47 pm
Brillant that mate, can I just ask a couple of things though? 

When you go into 16 - Steering Wheel, will it show the current code?  As yours is now 000032, I presume your code was 000002 before you installed CC?  I only ask because looking through the Ross tech coding list, it is like double Dutch to me!  I have fiited the stalk only so I guess I will need code 3 -  Cruise Control System (CCS) with 4 Positions via Blinker Stallk installed?  :stupid:

Hopefully I will not need any further coding after that as I have no warning lights.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: jedi-knight83 on November 10, 2011, 01:33:12 pm
Brillant that mate, can I just ask a couple of things though? 

When you go into 16 - Steering Wheel, will it show the current code?  As yours is now 000032, I presume your code was 000002 before you installed CC?  I only ask because looking through the Ross tech coding list, it is like double Dutch to me!  I have fiited the stalk only so I guess I will need code 3 -  Cruise Control System (CCS) with 4 Positions via Blinker Stallk installed?  :stupid:

Hopefully I will not need any further coding after that as I have no warning lights.

Yes mine was 000002 before and then 000032 with the new cruise stalk.

then you have to do the activation code in the engine module.

and then if you have the steering angle fault then you need to reset that.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 10, 2011, 01:52:27 pm

then you have to do the activation code in the engine module.


I notice from your guide the number you input was '11463' is that a generic number, or if mine will be different how will I find the activation code I need?

Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: jedi-knight83 on November 10, 2011, 01:54:48 pm

then you have to do the activation code in the engine module.


I notice from your guide the number you input was '11463' is that a generic number, or if mine will be different how will I find the activation code I need?



I got that from the rosstech site and i believe its generic.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 10, 2011, 02:11:30 pm

I got that from the rosstech site and i believe its generic.

Talking to a complete novice here, can you add a link?   :drinking:

Edit:  Is this it? http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Cruise_Control_Retrofitting_(1K)
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: jedi-knight83 on November 10, 2011, 02:31:17 pm

I got that from the rosstech site and i believe its generic.

Talking to a complete novice here, can you add a link?   :drinking:

Edit:  Is this it? http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Cruise_Control_Retrofitting_(1K)

I got the code from here and also confirmed with a couple of other forum people that had done the install

http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Checking_Cruise_Control_using_Measuring_Values
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 10, 2011, 02:41:27 pm
Yup, thats the page I tried to link, but it didn't work.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 11, 2011, 08:27:52 am
I'm a bit baffled mate, I am getting the cc coded today but to save a wasted journey I thought I would just confirm which module I have, a quick check and the part number ends with BC, cross checking on Ross Tech and this shows its for a midline, but mine has the highline fitted...... :confused:

Also what model year is your Caddy?  My car is an 07 so do you think the diagnostic wire will be on it?  I know I can check but it would mean taking off the wheel again and I haven't got the time.

Cheers, Lee.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 11, 2011, 04:13:55 pm
So I paid Martin (Gizmo68) a visit today for the necessary coding, but left there slightly despondent (to begin with)!  As I mentioned in the previous post after checking the part number for my control module I was baffled to find it is listed as a midline, when I have the highline MFD.   Anyway, coding was done, first piece of good news, it has got the diagnostic cable fitted, codes were excepted so we took it for a run.........no CC??  Went back and tried again and realised the coding was wrong, input the correct ones and went out again, still no CC, went back and decided to have a search on the Ross Tech site for anything we missed then Martin found the following:

1K0-953-549-BC    Type 2    SW 0070    Midline    Yes    -    #1

Above is the part number for my control module and the '#1' at the end means that CC can not be retro fitted!!  :sad1:  Bear in mind there are about 40 different variations and mine is the only one that doesn't work....... :sick:

Anyway,  we decided to leave the coding in place in anticipation of me sourcing an new controller.  On the drive home I turned on the CC for some reason at which point the light illuminated on the dash board and hey presto, I now have CC?????????????

Very baffled, but not complaining, I will still keep an eye out for a new control module though as mine definitely doesn't support a MFSW.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: jedi-knight83 on November 11, 2011, 04:51:07 pm
Thats odd about the #1 designation... I must admit i'd never noticed that but also then odd that its decided to work...

Sorry for the late reply.. been at work but as you found out you do have the diagnostics wire... My understanding is that its already on any car after 06.

Also re midline / highline... I dont think that relates to if you have a highline dash or not... Its just the 3 grades of steering control module.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Eddie-NL on November 11, 2011, 06:30:17 pm
I have fitted cruise control to 2 cars with the BC controller
1st didn't work ( 638 SW 0070 )
2nd worked ( 035 SW 0070 )
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: gizmo68 on November 11, 2011, 06:49:06 pm
Ross-Tech claim:
Control Module Part Number    Slip Ring      Software Level    Variant    Steering Angle Sensor    LIN Version    Notes
1K0-953-549-BC                    Type 2      SW 0070            Midline    Yes                                    -                #1

    Notes:
        #1: Does NOT allow Cruise Control Retrofitting, in such a Case you need to replace the Steering Wheel Control Module.


This is the scan from Lee's controller:

Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BC    HW: 1K0 953 549 BC
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 036 0070  
   Coding: 0000012
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 74EC69276E20

 :happy2:
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 11, 2011, 06:58:20 pm
Thats odd about the #1 designation... I must admit i'd never noticed that but also then odd that its decided to work...

Sorry for the late reply.. been at work but as you found out you do have the diagnostics wire... My understanding is that its already on any car after 06.

Also re midline / highline... I dont think that relates to if you have a highline dash or not... Its just the 3 grades of steering control module.
I thought so??  No worries about the late reply, I wasn't expecting you to be at my beck and call....... :P  I see what you mean about the low/mid/highline, mine is a midline as it doesn't have a MFSW.

I have fitted cruise control to 2 cars with the BC controller
1st didn't work ( 638 SW 0070 )
2nd worked ( 035 SW 0070 )

Interesting, what significance does the '638' and '035' number have, I can't seem to find them codes in Ross Tech wiki?

Ross-Tech claim:
Control Module Part Number    Slip Ring      Software Level    Variant    Steering Angle Sensor    LIN Version    Notes
1K0-953-549-BC                    Type 2      SW 0070            Midline    Yes                                    -                #1

    Notes:
        #1: Does NOT allow Cruise Control Retrofitting, in such a Case you need to replace the Steering Wheel Control Module.


This is the scan from Lee's controller:

Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BC    HW: 1K0 953 549 BC
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 036 0070 
   Coding: 0000012
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 74EC69276E20

 :happy2:

Many thanks for the time spent today, especially now as I have the desired result, enjoy the black stuff!  :notworthy:
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Eddie-NL on November 11, 2011, 07:01:32 pm
638 & 035 or 036 on your one is the Hardware version

so low hardware works maybe????
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: liver on November 11, 2011, 07:09:50 pm
Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AF    HW: 1K0 953 549 AF
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 634 0070 
   Coding: 0000012
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 76E7837A78B5

No fault code found.

this is mine, does this mean i would need to change the control module to get cruise control fitted?/
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 11, 2011, 07:12:41 pm
Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AF    HW: 1K0 953 549 AF
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 634 0070 
   Coding: 0000012
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 76E7837A78B5

No fault code found.

this is mine, does this mean i would need to change the control module to get cruise control fitted?/

Based on Eddie's observations I would think probably yes.   :sad1:
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Eddie-NL on November 11, 2011, 07:20:10 pm
Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 AF    HW: 1K0 953 549 AF
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 634 0070 
   Coding: 0000012
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 76E7837A78B5

No fault code found.

this is mine, does this mean i would need to change the control module to get cruise control fitted?/

Yours will be ok as it ends AF the problem one ends BC
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: liver on November 11, 2011, 07:24:16 pm
so after its fitted it will just need coding with no problems, great result, had the stalk for over a year and still havnt fit it yet. I can't find the bolt needed to get the steering wheel off

thanks for you knowledge ed
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Eddie-NL on November 11, 2011, 07:28:14 pm
as long as you have the diagnostic wire, just fit the stalk and code the steering control module and activate it in the engine
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 11, 2011, 07:30:26 pm
so after its fitted it will just need coding with no problems, great result, had the stalk for over a year and still havnt fit it yet. I can't find the bolt needed to get the steering wheel off

thanks for you knowledge ed

Follow Jedi's guide mate and you can't go wrong, if you are anywhere near me I have all the required tools.   :happy2:
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: jedi-knight83 on November 11, 2011, 09:33:54 pm
AF is fine as its midline so supports cruise.

What year is your car... If its pre 06 you will need an extra wire... if its 06 build or later you should be fine.

Its all explained in my 'how to' (link on the first page of this thread)
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: skard on November 12, 2011, 12:09:59 pm
As above.

I had a factory fitted AF module with cruise, using a midline cluster.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: DaveR77 on November 13, 2011, 07:50:11 pm
Where's the best place to get the spline bit from, do B&Q sell them?
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: rich83 on November 13, 2011, 07:54:00 pm
Where's the best place to get the spline bit from, do B&Q sell them?

IIRC i got mine from halfords on a rack of about 5/6 other sizes
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: skard on November 13, 2011, 07:56:40 pm
I got a cheapo set from eBay, delivered for about a fiver. comes with short and longer bits of the same size.

The set I got is the same as this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/11PC-SPLINE-BIT-SET-1-2-DRIVE-SOCKET-CHROME-VANADIUM-/140630512900?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item20be3b5504 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/11PC-SPLINE-BIT-SET-1-2-DRIVE-SOCKET-CHROME-VANADIUM-/140630512900?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item20be3b5504)
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 13, 2011, 07:56:53 pm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/M12-SPLINE-BIT-12-point-10mm-HEX-DRIVE-30mm-LONG-/260885372753?pt=UK_Hand_Tools_Equipment&hash=item3cbdfadf51#ht_1351wt_1037
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: rich83 on November 13, 2011, 07:57:59 pm
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_168943_langId_-1_categoryId_255215

22 quid... so a bit more expensive but you do get the set.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: MPS on November 13, 2011, 08:19:50 pm
This is what I bought, bargain!

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-12768-3-Piece-2-Inch-Square/dp/B0001K9P00/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1321215516&sr=8-6 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-12768-3-Piece-2-Inch-Square/dp/B0001K9P00/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1321215516&sr=8-6)
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: sarahw on November 13, 2011, 08:27:10 pm
i have a 55 plate , i only needed the stalk if this help  :jumping:
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 13, 2011, 08:34:03 pm
Really?  Perhaps a previous owner fitted the diagnostic cable?
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: MPS on November 13, 2011, 08:47:18 pm
Just to warn people considering buying spline bit sets, a spline is different from an XZN bit, the difference is in the angle of degrees on the splines of the 2 types of bit. Whether there is enough of a difference to make it not fit the bolt however, I'm not sure. I used a 12mm XZN bit and that fitted 100%. You don't want anything slipping when it comes to torquing up the bolt.

Sorry if that made your head hurt, I just re read it and it did me. :confused:
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: sarahw on November 13, 2011, 08:49:45 pm
Really?  Perhaps a previous owner fitted the diagnostic cable?
.
nope it was me that got it retor fitted  :P
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: jedi-knight83 on November 14, 2011, 12:04:59 am
i have a 55 plate , i only needed the stalk if this help  :jumping:

My van was 55 but was technically an early 06 build so had the wire. Some 55 plates do have it.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: MPS on November 14, 2011, 09:03:57 am
i have a 55 plate , i only needed the stalk if this help  :jumping:

My van was 55 but was technically an early 06 build so had the wire. Some 55 plates do have it.

My 55 plate 06MY gti had the wire too.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 16, 2011, 05:42:40 pm
I'm well happy with the retro fit in the Golf, I am now thinking about it for the vRS.  Can someone confirm if the stalk will be the same?  Hopefully it will have the wire, it's a 56 plate, but to be on the safe side I think I will physically check this first.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Eddie-NL on November 16, 2011, 05:43:21 pm
I'm sure it has the wire and it is the same stalk
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on November 17, 2011, 02:01:48 pm
I'm sure it has the wire and it is the same stalk

That's good news then, I will just need to confirm the steering control module part number then I will get on eBay.  :happy2:

Edit:  Just checked the vRS and it has the 'BC' control module, the same as in the Golf.  So 50/50 chance it will work!   :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: SeanB on January 31, 2012, 07:59:00 pm
If anyone's in Staffs and wants this fitting to their car I'll do it for some beer tokens as I did mine at the weekend and now I know what I'm doing it's a doddle.

Hi Mate,

I'm in Stourbridge and have just bought a stalk, if you have VC to program it and can fit it, I will happily supply beer tokens (and Beer)!!

I would send a PM, if I had posted on here enough to be allowed to send PM's Doh!
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Meallbhan on February 21, 2012, 11:15:57 pm
When the cruise control is all fitted and working, do you get a light on the dash to tell you when its turned on?  One of the works pool cars is an Octavia and has a wee green dial illuminates above the rev counter to tell you.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: mad_pete on February 21, 2012, 11:28:10 pm
yep exactly that
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Meallbhan on February 22, 2012, 07:37:21 pm
So the car already has the light fitted, not used, but ready to be?
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: mad_pete on February 23, 2012, 12:37:38 am
Yep, standard display pod I guess
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on February 25, 2012, 06:43:31 pm
Reviving this thread as Martin completed a diagnostic on the vRS today.  Looking at the info for the steering controller we discovered that it is almost identical to the Golf -

vRS:

Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BC    HW: 1K0 953 549 BC
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 036 0070 
   Coding: 0000012
   Shop #: WSC 73430 790 00000
   VCID: 74EC692717A00E3

Golf:

Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BC    HW: 1K0 953 549 BC
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 036 0070 
   Coding: 0000012
   Shop #: WSC 01279 785 00200
   VCID: 74EC69276E20

As you can see the differences are in the last two lines - Shop # and VCID.  Can anyone in the know, tell what these relate to and if they will cause an issue fitting cc?

Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRStu on February 25, 2012, 06:55:40 pm
I'm not sure what VCID is but the shop number simply relates to the dealership, factory or bench.

WSC = Workshop Code
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on February 25, 2012, 07:05:05 pm
Just browsing google and one possiblity could be VCID - Virtual Circuit Identification?
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Turbosteve on February 26, 2012, 06:38:18 pm
Anyone in south Yorkshire that could fit cruise control to my 11 plate caddy please... And if poss to my 10 plate T5.1 transporter ..... Vw want silly money for both vehicles and I have not got a clue....
Thanks
Steve
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Eddie-NL on February 26, 2012, 06:54:34 pm
The caddy probably has the newer type combination stalks
the transporter probably can be done, but needs a loom to be fitted
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRStu on February 26, 2012, 07:23:59 pm
VW sell a kit for the Transporter.  Give them your chassis number and ask for the retrofit kit.

As Eddie says the Caddy will likely have the Mk6 style once piece setup with the steering controller built into the slip ring.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Eddie-NL on February 26, 2012, 07:32:31 pm
It is probably worth getting a scan to see what controller is in the caddy
Some versions need to be changed which also requires the ignition barrel lock and holder to be changed
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Turbosteve on February 26, 2012, 07:45:05 pm
Thanks guys.... The problem I have is I don't have access to vagcom or vcds or what ever it is I need to plug in to.... That's why I wanted to know if anyone local can help me with it....... Vw was about as helpfull as a chocolate fire guard ........ They wanted £600.00 for the caddy doing.... :confused:
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRStu on February 26, 2012, 07:45:58 pm
What about using an Indy?

Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Eddie-NL on February 26, 2012, 07:48:41 pm
if you were not so far away, I would have offered my services.
Try Darren (mortygtdi) he is in Leeds
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Moz on March 06, 2012, 12:30:12 pm
I've just spoke with Awesome GTI over them fitting this for £150. They said if my wheel isn't multi function, I'll have to replace the steering ECU at £135 on top of the £150.

Does this sound right to anyone?

I have a 05 GTI and it doesn't have a Multi Function Sterring wheel and only has half MFD.

Can anyone advise?
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRStu on March 06, 2012, 12:36:09 pm
Yep sounds right to me.  If they offer a service based on a requirement for parts which is then exceeded, in your case by needing a new steering, controller then it's correct to add that cost to the service.

You would be wise to try and ascertain which controller you have beforehand in case you don't need it.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Moz on March 06, 2012, 12:55:05 pm
Yep sounds right to me.  If they offer a service based on a requirement for parts which is then exceeded, in your case by needing a new steering, controller then it's correct to add that cost to the service.

You would be wise to try and ascertain which controller you have beforehand in case you don't need it.

Thanks for the reply mate.

I understand the process for the parts cost on top, my question was more directed towards "Does my vehicle fall into this category"

Obviously I don't have a the Multi Function Steering wheel, so does this automatically put me into this bracket of a new steering controller, if not, what can I do to confirm if I need a new controller or not.

Taking into account, at the moment, I don't have access to VCDS.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on March 06, 2012, 04:17:58 pm
Dude, a MFSW is NOT a requirement for cruise control retro fitting, and you don't need VCDS to find out what steering controller you have.  Just drop the cowling around the column and you will find the controller attached underneath, the part number should be clearly visible, post or PM the number and I will confirm if retrofit is possible.

To access the controller, turn the steering wheel 90 degrees each way to expose 2 x torx screws, there is a third screw underneath in the recess where the rake and reach lever is.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Moz on March 06, 2012, 04:33:36 pm
Dude, a MFSW is NOT a requirement for cruise control retro fitting, and you don't need VCDS to find out what steering controller you have.  Just drop the cowling around the column and you will find the controller attached underneath, the part number should be clearly visible, post or PM the number and I will confirm if retrofit is possible.

To access the controller, turn the steering wheel 90 degrees each way to expose 2 x torx screws, there is a third screw underneath in the recess where the rake and reach lever is.

Ah- thanks for clearing that up mate. I'll have a look tomorrow and get back to you with the part number to confirm. Be nice if it was possible without changing the controller etc.

Nice one mate
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: WolverineMAc on March 06, 2012, 04:40:23 pm
Does any one fit these down south (BN21)
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on March 06, 2012, 04:43:48 pm
Ah- thanks for clearing that up mate. I'll have a look tomorrow and get back to you with the part number to confirm. Be nice if it was possible without changing the controller etc.

Nice one mate

I thought I was going to need a new controller as both my cars have the part number with 'BC' at the end which according to Rosstech wiki is the only one of about 30 variations that doesn't work work...... :sick:

But it turned out to be fine as there are sub-part numbers that will work!!  :stupid:

This is a link to the list of controllers -  http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index.php/Steering_Wheel_Control_Module_Versions - you need to have a mid or high line to work (this has nothing to do with the MFD as I found out).  :happy2:
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Eddie-NL on March 06, 2012, 05:03:33 pm
I've just spoke with Awesome GTI over them fitting this for £150. They said if my wheel isn't multi function, I'll have to replace the steering ECU at £135 on top of the £150.

Does this sound right to anyone?

I have a 05 GTI and it doesn't have a Multi Function Sterring wheel and only has half MFD.

Can anyone advise?

You don't need to change the controller, unless it has HW638 SW0070
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on March 06, 2012, 05:53:36 pm
As per a previous post, mine is - 036 0070 - so ok?
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Eddie-NL on March 06, 2012, 05:57:50 pm
As per a previous post, mine is - 036 0070 - so ok?

yes
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Moz on March 06, 2012, 07:23:44 pm
Even better, will confirm later one.

Who's betting on the chances..... haha
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRStu on March 06, 2012, 07:56:13 pm

To access the controller, turn the steering wheel 90 degrees each way to expose 2 x torx screws, there is a third screw underneath in the recess where the rake and reach lever is.

Close but there is a little more to it than that.  Hence why most people suggest using VCDS where available.   :happy2:

I think Awesome or probably acting on the side of caution with their suggestion that a MFSW is required it is more correct to suggest that if a MFSW is fitted you have a better chance of not needing a replacement steering controller.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRStu on March 06, 2012, 07:57:43 pm
Does any one fit these down south (BN21)

Yes but a little further south that BN21  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on March 06, 2012, 08:54:40 pm
Close but there is a little more to it than that.  Hence why most people suggest using VCDS where available.   :happy2:

Really, that's all I did to confirm the steering control part number on my vRS, granted I confirmed the additional numbers via VCDS purely because the vRS was the 'BC' number, the same as the Golf which shouldn't technically have worked according to Rosstech wiki.....  :popcornsoda:

As per a previous post, mine is - 036 0070 - so ok?

yes

 :pomppomp:  :star:  :jumpmove:
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRStu on March 06, 2012, 10:33:00 pm
If you were to sit rotating the steering wheel all day long you wouldn't see the two Torx screws that hold the lower shroud in place until you've lifted the upper shroud  :evilgrin:

I'm not sure if you can get it that way with the Golf steering wheel, it's not something I've tried personally.
Title: Re: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Moz on March 06, 2012, 10:51:53 pm
Well in going to get it done, so if it needs it, it needs it. Going to book in with awesome tomorrow. Any recommendations with a filters also quite fancy one of those oval ones

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Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on March 07, 2012, 06:46:32 pm
If you were to sit rotating the steering wheel all day long you wouldn't see the two Torx screws that hold the lower shroud in place until you've lifted the upper shroud  :evilgrin:

I'm not sure if you can get it that way with the Golf steering wheel, it's not something I've tried personally.

Ok, so I missed a minor step......  :chicken: :fighting2: :P

I can confirm that ONCE you remove the top cover then turn the wheel 90 degrees you can access the screws on the Golf, I've done it!  :drinking:
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on March 08, 2012, 04:28:36 pm
FYI, I have just fitted a new cruise control stalk in my vRS - from start to finish (not including coding) 18 minutes!!!  :jumping:  :jumpmove:
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Eddie-NL on March 08, 2012, 05:06:21 pm
FYI, I have just fitted a new cruise control stalk in my vRS - from start to finish (not including coding) 18 minutes!!!  :jumping:  :jumpmove:

thats a Good time, can't say I have timed myself
I've had the whole job done, coding and coding tweaks and 5 mile test drive done in 40 mins
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on March 08, 2012, 08:11:54 pm
FYI, I have just fitted a new cruise control stalk in my vRS - from start to finish (not including coding) 18 minutes!!!  :jumping:  :jumpmove:

thats a Good time, can't say I have timed myself
I've had the whole job done, coding and coding tweaks and 5 mile test drive done in 40 mins

You just know the next one you do you will have your stop watch out!  :grin:
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: gizm0 on March 31, 2013, 05:37:27 pm
sorry to bring up an old thread but i want cruise on my 08 ED30 what part number for the cruise stalk will i need and should it be just simple coded and done? or do i need to look at the steering module number too?

thanks
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on March 31, 2013, 05:52:00 pm
Part Number: 1K0953513G9B9 | 1K0 953 513 G | 1K0-953-513-G-9B9

Should be a straight fit and code on an '08 mate, it was on my '07 GT, and '06 vRS.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: gizm0 on March 31, 2013, 06:04:47 pm
Part Number: 1K0953513G9B9 | 1K0 953 513 G | 1K0-953-513-G-9B9

Should be a straight fit and code on an '08 mate, it was on my '07 GT, and '06 vRS.

great thanks buddy :D
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on March 31, 2013, 06:14:44 pm
If there aren't any available in the for sale area, they can be had for decent money on eBay. Be aware that if you go for a used one, it may work for a while then show gremlins. One of mine did that, but it was a simple case of opening the stalk and cleaning the circuit board with electrical cleaner. The other alternative - if you are near - is to PM Eddie_NL, he supplies, fits and codes for a ton!?
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: gizm0 on March 31, 2013, 06:16:19 pm
cheers but ill buy from the dealer can get good discounts from there :) and have someone who can do the coding for me too :) will need some other bits coding too so will get it done together, any idea what the RRP is for the stalk?
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: vRS_Pagey on March 31, 2013, 06:32:33 pm
£80ish iirc.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Breket on December 29, 2015, 09:09:05 pm
Dear friends,

I bought used cruise control stalk on ebay. It is marked as 08 production year. Last night I read about retrofitting CC. Today I did it, but all did not get well. When I was connecting battery I notice that high beams are on  :surprised:.
I thought that maybe I need to turn off coming home function  :stupid:, but later when I did it it was without success.
Anyway, my modul is
Address 16: Steering wheel        Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
   Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BC    HW: 1K0 953 549 BC
   Component: Lenksäulenmodul 036 0070 
   Coding: 0000042
   Shop #: WSC 00028 028 00001
   VCID: 74EDC20917A00E9

Now I notice BC in part no. To be honest, as I have board computer in car and I think that retrofitting will fit easy.  :sad1:

Also, rosstech says:
#1: Depending on the hardware version of this module, it MAY or MAY NOT allow Cruise Control Retrofitting, so
replacing the Steering Wheel Control Module may be required.

So, I successfully turned on CC. I code it in steering wheel and engine control module, and it works great but I
have trouble with high beams. It suppose that when i unlock the car its switch on and it stays on for about several
minutes, maybe 4-5. In that period I start the engine and high beam lights still on, no matter where is main light switch.

It looks like someone turn blinker upward and does not releasing it. After that period lights turns off. Also I
notice that I can t blinks or turn manually high beams. So, can I change wiring of stalk or do something else? Any
other suggestions?

The car is 2007 Golf 5 TDI
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Boky on January 02, 2016, 02:38:36 pm
Hello, thought i could post this question here, so i don't opet a new topic ( since i am also new :P )

i recently retrofitted the cruise control, and activated it through vcds. it works fine, everything in order.

The problem is, since then i can't change tracks/radio station with my MFSW when in audio menu. the buttons work fine with mfd and rest of the menu, i can turn the volume up and down fine, but i can't change the station or tracks anymore.

did anybody have this problem?

my gateway is a K revision, radio is basic rcd 300, the car is 2007, new style buttons on the steering wheel.
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Breket on January 02, 2016, 08:39:45 pm
I have resolve the problem. My module supports cruise control, the problem was with stalk. I measure contact on my old stalk, and discover where is the open circuit at each position of stalk. See photo. After that discover that stalk with cc gives constantly high beam. After that I remove motherboard of stalk, and discover that mechanism which walks through contact was without control. just insert it into position an assembled all back. Now everything work perfect.
Just add radio in adaptation for can gateway and now car is without any errors. It have 270tkm and still counting.
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BzdSPg1ePQ46SmZlbjFMX1FORm8&usp=sharing (https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BzdSPg1ePQ46SmZlbjFMX1FORm8&usp=sharing)
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Boky on January 03, 2016, 05:19:00 pm


Just add radio in adaptation for can gateway and now car is without any errors. It have 270tkm and still counting.

Will this work for me too, and that changing tracks and songs with mfsw??

As i recall, when i go in the gateway coding, there is no adaptation button?
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Breket on January 04, 2016, 03:19:59 pm


Just add radio in adaptation for can gateway and now car is without any errors. It have 270tkm and still counting.

Will this work for me too, and that changing tracks and songs with mfsw??

As i recall, when i go in the gateway coding, there is no adaptation button?

Well, I do not know, I do not have MFSW. I insert OEM RNS 300 radio, before I had aftermarket radio. So, after that I had something like this  when scanning car:
56-Radio -- Status: Not registered 0001

after changing this, everything look
Status: OK 0000
Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: daelo on November 11, 2019, 10:14:32 am
Valid question for the thread so it can help future readers , if someone knows the answer.

I already have a cruise control stick fitted, but it has broken (code VAG00895 CCS/ADR control unit faulty)

I have a new Meyle unit , i am unsure if it is the same as what is fitted to the car.

Will it need coding regardless, or as the CC is already activated in my car , will it just be a straight swap?

Cheers



Title: Re: Cruise Control fitting guide
Post by: Octoparrot on November 11, 2019, 05:50:42 pm
Should just be a straight swap however there are different revisions of stalks so I'm led to believe and I don't know if this has any effect on the coding.