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Title: Water meth- does anyone run it?
Post by: martziniuk on August 18, 2011, 05:44:12 pm
I'm finding myself getting getting more and more tempted by the benefits of running a water methanol kit. Does anyone on here run one as I've not seen any posts lately and what do you think for everyday driving?
Title: Re: Water meth- does anyone run it?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on August 18, 2011, 05:58:19 pm

I bought a Labonte S4 kit but ended up not fitting.  Partly because of lack of known / trusted tuners where I am in Germany and also Im not 100% happy with my software as it is, dont want to further complicate things, rather just go for new Mapping 1st.  The Apr I have isnt adjustable either to help map to the W/Meth kit

Revo would be well suited to a W/Meth kit
Title: Re: Water meth- does anyone run it?
Post by: martziniuk on August 18, 2011, 07:45:52 pm

I bought a Labonte S4 kit but ended up not fitting.  Partly because of lack of known / trusted tuners where I am in Germany and also Im not 100% happy with my software as it is, dont want to further complicate things, rather just go for new Mapping 1st.  The Apr I have isnt adjustable either to help map to the W/Meth kit

Revo would be well suited to a W/Meth kit
Sell me it  :drinking:
I would run it with the Stage 2+ map and would not get the map changed for it. I would be just happy to run lower octane fuel and take advantage of lower intake temps and possibly better mpg.
Title: Re: Water meth- does anyone run it?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on August 18, 2011, 07:57:57 pm

Sold it a bit back back mate sorry
Title: Re: Water meth- does anyone run it?
Post by: martziniuk on August 18, 2011, 08:03:10 pm
No probs  :happy2:. Anyone else fitted one?
Title: Re: Water meth- does anyone run it?
Post by: bacillus on August 18, 2011, 08:07:35 pm
I think there is a long term issue with wm in our engines as it seems to cause premature failure of the throttle body motor depending on where abouts you spray the meth.
Title: Re: Water meth- does anyone run it?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on August 18, 2011, 08:12:55 pm
I can't remember who I sold it to but I'd be interested in seeing the results
Title: Re: Water meth- does anyone run it?
Post by: martziniuk on August 18, 2011, 08:32:30 pm
I think there is a long term issue with wm in our engines as it seems to cause premature failure of the throttle body motor depending on where abouts you spray the meth.
Yeah I had read that happened in one case, something to do with a plastic throttle slide.
Title: Re: Water meth- does anyone run it?
Post by: Cupra R on August 19, 2011, 04:02:10 pm
I think there is a long term issue with wm in our engines as it seems to cause premature failure of the throttle body motor depending on where abouts you spray the meth.
Yeah I had read that happened in one case, something to do with a plastic throttle slide.

Yep, but if it is injected after, either by direct port or using one of the Throttle/manifold adaptor plates, then the issue should be resolved.

Apparently  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Water meth- does anyone run it?
Post by: martziniuk on August 19, 2011, 07:08:38 pm
Hmm I'll look into that but it sounds more complicated and expensive  :scared:
Title: Re: Water meth- does anyone run it?
Post by: bacillus on August 19, 2011, 07:14:39 pm
Hmm I'll look into that but it sounds more complicated and expensive  :scared:

The bsh throttle body pipe is one ready-made solution.
http://www.bshspeedshop.com/bshstore/products/BSH-FSI-Integrated-Throttle-Pipe.html
Title: Re: Water meth- does anyone run it?
Post by: Cupra R on August 19, 2011, 07:20:11 pm
Hmm I'll look into that but it sounds more complicated and expensive  :scared:

The bsh throttle body pipe is one ready-made solution.
http://www.bshspeedshop.com/bshstore/products/BSH-FSI-Integrated-Throttle-Pipe.html

This would still pass the Butterfly valve though in the throttle body
Title: Re: Water meth- does anyone run it?
Post by: Cupra R on August 19, 2011, 07:22:58 pm
Hmm I'll look into that but it sounds more complicated and expensive  :scared:

Not more complicated to be honest.  Seen them for about $70-80
Title: Re: Water meth- does anyone run it?
Post by: bacillus on August 19, 2011, 07:25:29 pm
This would still pass the Butterfly valve though in the throttle body

Yup but the only way to bypass the butterfly flap is to drill port(s) for the injector(s) in the intake manifold itself.
Title: Re: Water meth- does anyone run it?
Post by: Cupra R on August 19, 2011, 08:09:37 pm
This would still pass the Butterfly valve though in the throttle body

Yup but the only way to bypass the butterfly flap is to drill port(s) for the injector(s) in the intake manifold itself.

Can use one of these.

http://www.usrallyteam.com/images/wai_tbflange_fsi.jpg