MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: stealthwolf on August 29, 2011, 02:24:57 pm
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Someone at work has one. 250bhp from standard and apparently it "torque steers" (not convinced).
Looks very nice from the outside, in an orange kind of colour.
Anyone tried one? How does it handle compared to the Golf?
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It'll be diff tug, not torque steer. As it shifts power between sides in search of grip, it can feel a bit like it's tugging at the wheel.
It'll leave a Golf in pretty much any state of chassis tune for dead, straight out of the box.
There'll always be the anti-French putting them down, but they're a million times better now than the previous generation Megane. They're built well, they're well equipped and feel a bit more grown up. Still depreciate badly mind, so rent one or get a 12 month old version.
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agree with the above sentiments...a car worthy of respect. i was looking seriously at these to replace the Prodrive STi, but felt they were just as hardcore so thought the GTi was the better allround car.
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Wow. Figured it was something special when the girl at work mentioned the Cup 250 bit. Maybe I should keep the ED30 away from her.
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It's what I really wanted but bought the Golf instead because of depreciation
The brakes and chassis are amazing and the engine remaps to about 320hp like an Ed30.
As said, it'll smoke a standard Golf with ease
I had an R26 previously and I miss its handling so much, but the build was naff
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magazines such as Car or Evo reckon this is a GT3 RS Lite :drool:
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Shame the de value so quickly, get great reviews after the badge pride
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Shame the de value so quickly, get great reviews after the badge pride
As opposed to seat! Lol, Renaultsport have always been good, and to be honest the newer ones are a bit lame compared to previous years, the nurburgring certainly sells cars.
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Shame the de value so quickly, get great reviews after the badge pride
As opposed to seat! Lol, Renaultsport have always been good, and to be honest the newer ones are a bit lame compared to previous years, the nurburgring certainly sells cars.
No, in general :stupid: [/yet more Renault banter] lol
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if its an "orangey " colour its not the RS it ll be the GT completley different animal !!!!
out the box the RS250 is awesome , air filter, scorpion and bluefin and its f*%king amazing
depriciation is the only thing that lets the car down !!!!
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Defo RS as it says so on the back and so does the insurance company quotes.
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so its yellow then
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There's also "GT by RenaultSport", but if she said Cup, then it's defo a 250
I want one! Along with a 135i lol.
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Typing the reg into moneysupermarket.com brings out this: RENAULT MEGANE 2005-2010 Petrol 2.0L Manual 3 doors RENAULTSPORT CUP
It looks like this: clicky (http://www.perrys.co.uk/renault-megane-2.0-t-16v-renaultsport-250-cup-3-door/new-and-delivery-mileage/offer-187998)
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Dont worry Stealth Candy turbo is obsessed with custard yellow. :laugh:
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The pic isn't a RenaultSport 250... you sure its that exact colour? You can't get the 250 in that colour.
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I thought it was just me going :stupid:
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The pic isn't a RenaultSport 250... you sure its that exact colour? You can't get the 250 in that colour.
It's an RS cup but the girl tells me it's got 250bhp and called it a cup 250.
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The new meganne is 250hp and iirc can be specced with the cup chassis just like the clios
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So she really does have a 250 Cup in orange, and I really am in trouble?
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Take her to a 1/4 mile, you'll have a chance then lol
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that pic is a megane coupe sport NOT a renaultsport version not sure what bhp it is or wether can be had with cup pack !!!!
cheers tc , nice car there mate :happy2:
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No Orange in the Megane brochure
http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/roadcars/megane250/explore/colourselector/Default.aspx (http://www.renaultsport.co.uk/roadcars/megane250/explore/colourselector/Default.aspx)
Red
Yellow
Grey
White
Blue
Silver
Black
And 3 wheel choices
Darren
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I've had a closer look. It's red but not like VW's Tornado Red - it almost looks orange at times though.
Also it's not a Cup model. I asked her again. Must've had my wires crossed.
Sooooooooooooo Megane RS with 250bhp v a Stage 1 ED30. Likely outcome?
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:popcornsoda:
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I've had a closer look. It's red but not like VW's Tornado Red - it almost looks orange at times though.
Also it's not a Cup model. I asked her again. Must've had my wires crossed.
Sooooooooooooo Megane RS with 250bhp v a Stage 1 ED30. Likely outcome?
Stop being scared of the girl and get out (or in) there :grin:
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I've had a closer look. It's red but not like VW's Tornado Red - it almost looks orange at times though.
Also it's not a Cup model. I asked her again. Must've had my wires crossed.
Sooooooooooooo Megane RS with 250bhp v a Stage 1 ED30. Likely outcome?
Ed 30 would kill it in straight line. Bye bye on track though
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Must be red matey, as said theres no Orange in this line of the RS Megane, needs to be Glacier White or Liquid Yellow! Was never a fan of the orange -
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There's also the 250 Trophy in Liquid Yellow.. Which has a slight orange tinge I suppose..
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No it was definitely red.
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Suppose this is a orangey red :signLOL:
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...as opposed to pinky red for the Tornado Red fanboys! :grin:
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There's also the 250 Trophy in Liquid Yellow.. Which has a slight orange tinge I suppose..
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And is quicker than a TTrs dont forget
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Nice wheel colour choice :innocent:
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They don't look blue to me?? :P
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hardee haaaa :laugh:
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Look a lot better than the old shape. Look like they're made better also.
Decent bit of kit out of the box.
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I much preferred the look of the old one. It was different, whereas this just looks like a generic bulbus hatch.
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Oh, I will say this - there's no room in the back, the roof is so low. You can't see bugger all out of the back either..
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I've had a closer look. It's red but not like VW's Tornado Red - it almost looks orange at times though.
Also it's not a Cup model. I asked her again. Must've had my wires crossed.
Sooooooooooooo Megane RS with 250bhp v a Stage 1 ED30. Likely outcome?
Ed 30 would kill it in straight line. Bye bye on track though
or in the wet !! re map the RS and it will out perform the stage 1 ed 30 in any situation
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Bendy stuff yeah, but straight line it won't.. Similar power, similar weight (in fact Meg is slightly heavier).. Plus I know of a few that have run @ Pod and when mapped have run same as manual Ed30's..
Round a track I wouldn't fancy the Golf's chances though.. :confused:
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i ve driven an RS tuning mapped 250 and trust me it will out perform a stage 1 ed 30 in any situation
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Here we go...
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i ve driven an RS tuning mapped 250 and trust me it will out perform a stage 1 ed 30 in any situation
Rightio.. :wink:
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Strap in Ladies and gents, this could be a bumpy ride................
:popcornsoda: :popcornsoda:
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just my opinion , i ve owned a stage 1 ed 30 and ive driven an RS tuned rs 250 i dont go on figures and weight i judge them on sheer driving and imo the megane out performs in fact i would put it on par with a stage 1 S3 (which i ve also had )
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Before we do this lol, I will repeat what I have said over and over again on here, two different cars, a Renaultsport will always outperform a standard hot hatch in terms of driving pleasure ( you can argue it won't till your blue in face but it will), but they don't mod very well ( unlike a vw, which is what I love about the vw scene), a well moded ko4 will destroy any Renaultsport I have been in ( which is a few!!) the build quality thing is exagerated on here but It would be, I have covered well over 150k in Renaultsports and nothing has fallen off, as for depriation it's the same, mine has lost 11k in 4 years, what would an ed 30 loose in same time? Or any performance car?
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i see what your saying , but if you think they dont mod well drive an RS tuning mapped rs 250 , you may change your view :happy2:
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As above owned lots of French stuff it's bollox they all fall to bits they dont unless you treat them like crap but so would any car(Clio trophy cable ties) :signLOL: Jhtrophy has done loads of miles like he says and trust his car gets used. The thing is the meg out of the box you can't knock it it's just good simple as it come with good brakes,good diff,good seats,good chassis and the engine is good too but if modding is your thing then maybe vag is the better option. You can't knock Renaultsport one bit they make awesome cars simple so let's just leave it alone. (unless pov wants to come on and try compare his ttrs) :signLOL:
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i see what your saying , but if you think they dont mod well drive an RS tuning mapped rs 250 , you may change your view :happy2:
No doubt mate and Paul knows what he is doing, but a map is not what I mean by modding, I actually think a map spoils the meg without anything else doing as I think dieppe know more about setting a car up than me but that is a matter of opinion :happy2: you getting yours mapped and any other plans?
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It doesn't need more power.
Just because you can, doesn't always mean you should.
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just my opinion , i ve owned a stage 1 ed 30 and ive driven an RS tuned rs 250 i dont go on figures and weight i judge them on sheer driving and imo the megane out performs in fact i would put it on par with a stage 1 S3 (which i ve also had )
But if we're talking straight line speed, then an Stage 1 Ed30 is quicker than a Stage 1 S3 in anything but a standing start. So how does that work out? :confused:
You can get in 2 different cars that are identical in performance terms and it's easy to think one is a lot quicker than the other depending on how it's power is delivered, how loud it is etc etc. Putting them against the clock is where you will know for sure though.
The 250's mapping potential is a lot better than the previous Meg, no doubt. Paul is also the man when it comes to getting the best from them. But i'm sorry, from what i've seen and experienced, they aint about to leave a Stage 1 Ed30 on anything other than the twisty stuff and the facts and figures only support my theory..
Also, with 270bhp Stage 2 R26/225's blowing up left right and centre, I would be seriously concered about how long the 250's heart can handle 300-320bhp too.. :scared:
Before we do this lol, I will repeat what I have said over and over again on here, two different cars, a Renaultsport will always outperform a standard hot hatch in terms of driving pleasure ( you can argue it won't till your blue in face but it will), but they don't mod very well ( unlike a vw, which is what I love about the vw scene), a well moded ko4 will destroy any Renaultsport I have been in ( which is a few!!) the build quality thing is exagerated on here but It would be, I have covered well over 150k in Renaultsports and nothing has fallen off, as for depriation it's the same, mine has lost 11k in 4 years, what would an ed 30 loose in same time? Or any performance car?
Couldn't agree more tbh...
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So what would I need to take on the RS 250?
Coilovers? ARBs? WALK? Uprated brakes? LSD? All of the above?
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So what would I need to take on the RS 250?
Coilovers? ARBs? WALK? Uprated brakes? LSD? All of the above?
and more tbh.. :scared: You'd be better off buying one, than trying to empty your bank account trying to out handle one. Let's be honest though, if a split arse is driving it, you should be alright.. :signLOL:
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just my opinion , i ve owned a stage 1 ed 30 and ive driven an RS tuned rs 250 i dont go on figures and weight i judge them on sheer driving and imo the megane out performs in fact i would put it on par with a stage 1 S3 (which i ve also had )
So basically what you are saying is that you put it on par with a heavier car that has more drivetrain losses than an ED30. I'd take an ED30 over an S3 in the dry any day :driver:
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I just remembered John, Ian had Custard Code on his VAG's, so that explains it all.. :booty:
Hold tight, this could get interesting... :signLOL:
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The main thing you can't replicate is the Perfohub double axis front suspension, it's witch craft I tell thee!!
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So what would I need to take on the RS 250?
Coilovers? ARBs? WALK? Uprated brakes? LSD? All of the above?
Driving ability.....
I'd happily go head to head with a renultsport at a track day, I have a stage 1 ed30, straight lines isn't were I try to win I like the corners....but I'd be gone by then :happy2:
People seem to forget how the golf feels, it's a golf! Designed to be silent, designed to be a great family car,designed to last
When I first got my ed30 I was unsure what was faster out of my old polo g40 (171bhp) or the standard ed30, after the 1st "spirited" drive I realised the gold was faster by a fair bit! The golf took lots less effort to do what the G40 took lots of effort to do, the G40 felt fast as the noise from the exhaust was louder, road noise was louder, steering was more of a fight, car was lower.....so the car had a kind of "4D cinema" effect, when people went out in it there was "WOW SLOW DOWN" although the car was fast its effects made it seem faster than it was, the golf will have people sit in complete silence, you have no sense of speed, it's very silent, very little road noise.....there for it didn't feel to "alive" feels kind of numb? BUT when you look at the speedo things are different and you go from being in a comfort zone to a "SHI7!" you have no real sense of speed, kind of like riding a push bike...feels faster than your actually going!'
Its how well the driver can drive, Id happily put the golf against a non standard renultsport at a track day and I'll be very very confident in what would happen :smiley: I've got lots of experience from both brands too :happy2:
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The main thing you can't replicate is the Perfohub double axis front suspension, it's witch craft I tell thee!!
You just made that up Mike? Sounds like something out of Buck Rogers.. :signLOL:
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Sounds like a sex aid, eh?
JackG.... LOL, bless your cotton socks. You wouldn't stand a chance.
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So what would I need to take on the RS 250?
Coilovers? ARBs? WALK? Uprated brakes? LSD? All of the above?
Driving ability.....
I'd happily go head to head with a renultsport at a track day, I have a stage 1 ed30, straight lines isn't were I try to win I like the corners....but I'd be gone by then :happy2: dude did you really just put that :signLOL:
People seem to forget how the golf feels, it's a golf! Designed to be silent, designed to be a great family car,designed to last
When I first got my ed30 I was unsure what was faster out of my old polo g40 (171bhp) or the standard ed30, after the 1st "spirited" drive I realised the gold was faster by a fair bit! The golf took lots less effort to do what the G40 took lots of effort to do, the G40 felt fast as the noise from the exhaust was louder, road noise was louder, steering was more of a fight, car was lower.....so the car had a kind of "4D cinema" effect, when people went out in it there was "WOW SLOW DOWN" although the car was fast its effects made it seem faster than it was, the golf will have people sit in complete silence, you have no sense of speed, it's very silent, very little road noise.....there for it didn't feel to "alive" feels kind of numb? BUT when you look at the speedo things are different and you go from being in a comfort zone to a "SHI7!" you have no real sense of speed, kind of like riding a push bike...feels faster than your actually going!'
Its how well the driver can drive, Id happily put the golf against a non standard renultsport at a track day and I'll be very very confident in what would happen :smiley: I've got lots of experience from both brands too :happy2:
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Sounds like a sex aid, eh?
JackG.... LOL, bless your cotton socks. You wouldn't stand a chance.
Do you have one?
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provisions...................
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JackG.... LOL, bless your cotton socks. You wouldn't stand a chance.
Haha :grin:
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Sounds like a sex aid, eh?
JackG.... LOL, bless your cotton socks. You wouldn't stand a chance.
Do you have one?
I had a GTI track car, then a Clio RS200 Cup and a good friend has an RS250. I do say 8 track days a year and a couple of Ring trips - I'm no pro driver by any stretch, but I can judge a car's pace.
Believe me when I tell you this, The Clio was as quick as the Golf. The Megane is a far, far faster car than a Golf ever will be... with the exception of a VW Cup car. On slicks.
Your point about the Golf being a different car is valid, they are and always will be.
Answer me this, what car currently holds the FWD record around the Ring? And by how far a margin is that over the Golf - do you think your extra BHP is going to bridge that gap??
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Have to agree... Even at Stage 2+, I wouldn't of taken a 250 on at anything less than a straight line dual.. If I tried chasing even the older R26 round a track (let alone the 250), i'd be on my roof in the kitty litter at the first corner.. :driver:
However, I will agree on the driver ability part. But like for like and you'd struggle even with the likes of it's little brother..
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Well in a recent FWD hot hatch group test i read, the Megane was slower in a straightline than the cupra (which was the fastest on test) ! so it wont be faster than a stage 1 edition 30, faster on a track defintootly it has the nurburgring FWD record and you should see some of the motors it beat and is just infront of it
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I'd like to have a bit of track time in a 250 cup. Don't know if I'd like to live with one day to day though.
I'd also like to bet that my old ED30 would be faster on track than a modded 250 cup in the same hands too :booty: :popcornsoda:
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This thread makes me want to get back in a RenaultSport
I'm trying to justify spending money on my Ed30, to 'make it handle like my old R26' but it's just a waste of time and money - I'm better off selling up and getting a 250 (or a 135i lol)
As said, a Clio 200 would batter a standard Ed30 if you throw a few bends at it, the 250 is a step up from that. Sure my Ed30 is quick in a straight line, but I have very little confidence in it otherwise. It grips, but it just doesn't handle anywhere near as well as the Megane I had :(
I guess it's a better all round car though... and certainly handles better than a VXR.
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This is a LOT of car for the money
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3039064.htm
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I cant see why a set of ARB's v3/clubsports and a full set of bushes wouldnt make the ED30 a better handler than the megane.
I know a lightly modded scirocco R was doing faster lap times than a 911 GT3 as when tested by a german car mag.
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Because of this below. This is the game changer Ford tried to copy for the MKII Focus RS, their Perfohub. It completely changes the way a FWD's suspension works.
It's amazing how something on shocks & springs with an old skool rear beam (no fancy multilink rear set up like the MKV) can have so much mechanical grip, that's where it gets it times. The speed you can carry through a corner is xx% higher than anything else.
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Sub 8 mins B-G, amateur on damp TF. Standard power & brakes, KWs, Federal 595s.
iirc, you claimed a sub-8 in your Golf, Hurdy by splicing times from a track day - so going with that, it had 100+ more BHP? You'd stripped your car/lightened with carbon - how many thousands of £ in mods had you spent a that stage to do that?
I suppose you could get an idea of time comparison by comparing the two films, measure your time from the T13 90degree left hander entering Hatzenbach to gantry. He does it in 7:26. If you're on similar pace, then take the 31 seconds it takes the Megane's bridge to T13 and add to yours.
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Those hubs certainly are an interesting design, a picture doesn't explain why they are better though. Is it because the wheel rotates 'flatter'?
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This is a LOT of car for the money
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3039064.htm
Your certainly not wrong Russ :surprised:.. What does worry me though, is how much that would of been new and it's only a year old.. My bet is he will of done 6k in the first year and that's if he sells at his current screen price.. :scared:
Absolutely despise the 19's on them too.. :sick:
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Sub 8 mins B-G, amateur on damp TF. Standard power & brakes, KWs, Federal 595s.
iirc, you claimed a sub-8 in your Golf, Hurdy by splicing times from a track day - so going with that, it had 100+ more BHP? You'd stripped your car/lightened with carbon - how many thousands of £ in mods had you spent a that stage to do that?
I suppose you could get an idea of time comparison by comparing the two films, measure your time from the T13 90degree left hander entering Hatzenbach to gantry. He does it in 7:26. If you're on similar pace, then take the 31 seconds it takes the Megane's bridge to T13 and add to yours.
Is that definitely stock Mike? The exhaust sounds a bit fruity to me? Either way, it's still fooking quick. Do I hear a bit of rubbing too? :wink:
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That is some driver!! :notworthy:
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This is a LOT of car for the money
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3039064.htm
Its a shame they look crap! The designer looks as if he couldnt stop added bits onto it or creating new lines, seats are nice though!
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Deffo stock power :happy2:
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Yellow seat belt = fail :stupid:
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Yellow seat belt = fail :stupid:
Lol, +1!
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I think yellow belts look cool as they do that to lots of the Porsche 911
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The 14.2 second 1/4 mile, Stage 1 Ed30 killer... :grin:
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Thats still a slow megane after its map tweak :popcornsoda:
I can see especially a stage 1 ed30 walking on from both...let alone a dsg version :surprised:
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Thats still a slow megane after its mapped tweek :popcornsoda:
I can see especially a stage 1 ed30 walking on from both...let alone a dsg version :surprised:
To be fair the conditions were pretty crap I have done the same time as the rs in a 182 with budget tyres :signLOL: but no like it's already been said in a straight line no chance.
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I'd like to have a bit of track time in a 250 cup. Don't know if I'd like to live with one day to day th too
day to day the rs250 is a lovely car to drive mines not the cup model its an ff with cup pack , i read the cup suspension was very hard but i think its very smooth , only thing that some one said on here head room in the back is quite poor that dont bother me cause i always sit in the front :grin:
and if custom code did renault sport id have had it done by now :P
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haha 14.25. I did 14.205 in the same sort of conditions at the same locatioon in my little 1.4 golf cart. Prob get my ass whooped on the in gear run though
I cant wait to have a go against a Focus RS at santa pod
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Alreeet, ive driven a rs250 cup and my rstuned stg1 r26, both are unreal around corners and have good power to get you from a2b, ive took heavyd for a spin if he's on here, he can tell you what theyre like. :driver: :drool:
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This is a LOT of car for the money
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3039064.htm
Its a shame they look crap! The designer looks as if he couldnt stop added bits onto it or creating new lines, seats are nice though!
your the only guy ive ever heard say they dont like the look ! you must be special :wink:
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This is a LOT of car for the money
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/3039064.htm
Its a shame they look crap! The designer looks as if he couldnt stop added bits onto it or creating new lines, seats are nice though!
your the only guy ive ever heard say they dont like the look ! you must be special :wink:
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I like that! :happy2:
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I will get shot posting it on here, but i think they look much better than the Rocco's :happy2:
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I have driven a few, they feel typically French inside and drive quite well. I just cant understand why they opted to make the visibility from the drivers seat so poor, may as well have not bothered fitting a rear or side windows.
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I will get shot posting it on here, but i think they look much better than the Rocco's :happy2:
IMO the Rocco looks better than the golf, but that meganne looks much better than the rocco. Big fan of these new Megannes.
Good to see a company doing big changes to their designs instead of just a rear tailgate and headlight swap.
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No need for rear view, its all about going forward. :driver:
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No need for rear view, its all about going forward. :driver:
Plus.... if your driving a 250 around a track, no-one will be overtaking you anyway... no need to give way! :popcornsoda:
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New Megane Cup is the GT3 RS of the hot hatch world as far as chassis dynamics and handling.
Having owned many Veed dub's out of the box they can't compete.....a bitter pill maybe but the VW's especially the MK5 is a big tep forward from previous MK's...but VW need to take a look at Renaultsport.....or are they realllly bothered?? Look at their heavy R model's....aimed at a different market. They need a light weight car wit a diff and good power to weight......sadly I can't see it happening.
Still would n't buy Megane.....prefer an E46 M3 with some proper brakes and suspension.
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I don't think VW are bothered about a megane being able to do 'B to G' in 7:XX mins or what ever it is :signLOL:
Is not where VWs market is placed.
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as said in the previous post...VW aren't aiming for the same market as the Renaultsports...i considered an R26.6 but decided that i didnt want hardcore after the impreza so came back to VW fold...always come back to Golfs! there's no doubting the amazing talents of the RS cars, but they are very niche. the GTi et al are so well rounded and far easier to live with on a daily basis.
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The Golf is defo a well rounded car but its a Gti ain't it? For me personally I buy a hot hatch because its sporty and I want it to be an event everytine I get in it and drive. That's what I miss about the CTR I had previously. But then I love the well rounded appeal of the Golf.
I sometimes think the Golf is a little to rounded for my tastes but I still love it. I will however be seriously considering one of the above as my next car and have for sometime now.
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I really like these. Maybe not buy one because im not racing all the time and normally just pottering around so when i want to have a blast down an A road the eddy is just fine! Still want to find a Focus RS to have a little play with!
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my toy of choice would be a caterham and keep the golf for sensible thrills.
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I really like these. Maybe not buy one because im not racing all the time and normally just pottering around so when i want to have a blast down an A road the eddy is just fine! Still want to find a Focus RS to have a little play with!
Mate, you should chew a Focus RS up and spit it out with your mods.. Even a modded one..
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Alreeet, ive driven a rs250 cup and my rstuned stg1 r26, both are unreal around corners and have good power to get you from a2b, ive took heavyd for a spin if he's on here, he can tell you what theyre like. :driver: :drool:
I can vouch the megane r26 handles better than my golf does :driver:
Guess the LSD makes a big difference. Considering the cheapskate has £20 a corner budget tyres on aswell, would be interesting to see what decent tyres could do to the handling :rolleye:
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Lol easy dom, mitchelin on the rear and polishing cheap tyres off that were on the car when i bought it, but yes even with 2 budget tyres on it totally wipes the floor with the golf's cornering but can't match the straight line speed of the stage 2 + golf. :mad:
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Wouldn't wanna go near a stage 2+ one of those!!
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Wouldn't wanna go near a stage 2+ one of those!!
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb150%2Fheavyd123%2FTsar-Nuclear-Explosion.jpg&hash=70176780f7314f9efd12a6c6cd6eb4d27a3c869f)
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:signLOL: as paul at rs tuning found out and blew his up :rolleye:
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Do they not like stage 2+?
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no, theyre french, what do you expect :rolleye:
Here we go again :popcornsoda:
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Never had french!! Glad I picked ze german!!
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French cars = :nerd: legendary racing breed.
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Cheese eating surrender monkeys. 1 foward 5 reverse.
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Cheese eating surrender monkeys. 1 foward 5 reverse.
First sensible thing that's been said in this thread! :signLOL:
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I must say im not a big fan of french cars.
I wouldnt have one myself but the newer ones seem to be getting better!
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Only had one German car and its been the most unreliable car I've owned.
I've also only ha one French car, a 1996 Pug 106 xsi and I have known every single owner from new. It got scrapped last week as a matter of fact with 230,000 on the clock and the only reson it was scrapped is the part out priced the car.
It just goes to shiw its the luck of the draw with motors, regardless of nationality.
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Some of the badge snobbery you get does actually make me laugh.
VAG are no better when it comes to reliability than the likes of ford, renault etc. Where VAG excel is with the quality 'feel' and high residuals of the car which people misconstrue as bullet proof reliability.
I have had over 10 fords of which i only ever had a problem with one, which blew an engine because of me.
I had an Audi Coupe in pristine Condition with 13 years Audi Service history with less than 60k on the clock, yet it cost me so much to repeatedly get repaired that i had to sell it. The diesel VAG engines have huge issues with DPFs, blown turbos. With the TFSI you had issues with DVs, coilpacks, fuelpumps, the 1.4TSi has huge issues with injectors failing, pistons melting, and engines blowing up.
I genuinely drive around in mine waiting for something to fail,such is the frequency of the new failed engine posts on the forums at the moment
VAg aren't all that.
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^^^^^^
:congrats: :congrats: :congrats:
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The 1.8T was pretty much bullet proof, the 1.4 and 2.0TFSI are flawed however on that I would agree.