MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Phil_T on August 30, 2011, 08:18:17 pm
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As above at 6k miles I replaced the standard clutch with an uprated sachs performance one & it has lasted all of 15000 miles!! I do no standing starts, no excessive loading & the clutch is now starting to slip in 3rd & 4th at about 3k revs for about a quarter eg 3k to 3.2k revs.
To say I am p*ssed off is abit of an understatement as I am aware no one else has had this problem????
It will be going back to Stattlers this week to strip down & send off to sachs uk as they said it has a 24 month unlimited milage warrenty (means I will have no car at all to get to & from work) but they did warn me if there was no signs of anything on the clutch that Sachs would not give me a new one!!! Great another 1k+
So anyone else had this problem with the updated item & the DMF?
I am on Revo stage 2+ power with all the right mods & has been fine until the last three days
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My sachs & replacement OEM DMF has been on at St2+ (APR) for quite a bit of time now, around 20 - 30k and hasn't yet started slipping. (Blatantly just jinxed myself :sad1:)
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Do you know the part number of your actual clutch as they do different stages for different power levels.
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Did you bed in the clutch properly?
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Do you know the part number of your actual clutch as they do different stages for different power levels.
I will look at the box, but its deffo the right one as Stattlers fit them to alot of them
Did you bed in the clutch properly?
Yep drove it steady for the first few hundread miles & kept the rev range low
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seems odd, any recent changes? why now?
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Thread resurrection!
Well today I felt my uprated Sach clutch start to slip a little :( it happened in 5th and 6th a few times as the turbo came on full boost. I'm hoping it was because of the damp weather and I haven't been able to recreate the slip since. How did you get on with your Sachs replacement Phil?
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Had to pay for a new one, bought the same again but wish I didnt. I should have gone for a southbend or something similar
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Were there any signs on the clutch/flywheel that pointed out the problem.
Buying a new one is a bit of a bummer, what was their reason for refusing a warranty claim?
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Mate, i had the same problem on mine at stage 2+ on a k03. Maybe a bad batch?? P.s i have done around 7k on mine
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Were there any signs on the clutch/flywheel that pointed out the problem.
Buying a new one is a bit of a bummer, what was their reason for refusing a warranty claim?
DMF was fine, when they opened the gearbox up parts of the clutch fell down like dust, Cant remember the UK supplier of sachs incase you know? but they said it wouldnt be covered as there is not really any warrenty on a clutch. Was less that 12 months old off top of my head. New one has been in since & had new dmf & slave cylinder but pedal feel is like stock which I dont like as the first one was abit stiff & you could feel it better. I wont get a sachs again & shouldnt have done the second time round plus with the fact the S3 will get a bigger turbo I will need to buy a new clutch again which will be southbend or clutchmasters
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Uk supplier for sachs uprated clutches: http://racepads.co.uk/zfsachs_performanceClutch.htm
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Were there any signs on the clutch/flywheel that pointed out the problem.
Buying a new one is a bit of a bummer, what was their reason for refusing a warranty claim?
DMF was fine, when they opened the gearbox up parts of the clutch fell down like dust, Cant remember the UK supplier of sachs incase you know? but they said it wouldnt be covered as there is not really any warrenty on a clutch. Was less that 12 months old off top of my head. New one has been in since & had new dmf & slave cylinder but pedal feel is like stock which I dont like as the first one was abit stiff & you could feel it better. I wont get a sachs again & shouldnt have done the second time round plus with the fact the S3 will get a bigger turbo I will need to buy a new clutch again which will be southbend or clutchmasters
Soutbend for me next time round. :happy2:
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Urghh maybe it was just a cold clutch :sad1:
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Uk supplier for sachs uprated clutches: http://racepads.co.uk/zfsachs_performanceClutch.htm
Ye thats them, Unhelpful too & didnt care on phone
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Hey guys, sorry to butt in, @ Phil- i'm disappointed to hear Racepads were not very supportive.....so to anyone with a different clutch / flywheel setup: (Dave @PDT) Which is the best all round set up for a stage 2+ putting out around 360+hp. AMD say Sachs.....some say SPEC are the way to go others say they aren't so great.....sorry for hi-jacking the thread.
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Im almost afraid to type it as my luck is terrible but;
35-40k well maintained miles at apr st2+ , no launches and no slip
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Is yours a Sachs Mike? with OEM DMF?
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Is yours a Sachs Mike? with OEM DMF?
Sorry meant to say (its on 1st page) Yea Sachs uprated clutch with oem DMF, great feel imo. Not sure what Ill do next time round
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mine is alos sachs with oem DMF , no issues so far.
southbend seem to get a good rep and alex likes helix i think
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wheres best place to get the sachs /loba smf kit? Anyone know how much it is?
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My uprated Sachs slips like described in the 1st post.
Stage2+ ed30 on dmf.
Thinking of going southbend 'silent' smf kit soon unless there are any better recommendation?
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Southbend silent isn't always silent and weighs more than the dmf setup which is how they try to get the noise down. The fit isn't the best and as with most American made clutch kits they feel cheap.
Sachs single mass kits seem to be good. Still not the best for clamping power and they are very expensive.
Competition clutch is poor with rubbish customer service and warranty. 90 days iirc. Material overheats AMD sticks the friction plate to the flywheel. Also happens with the southbend setups.
SPEC - AVOID at all costs. Snapped the rivets off them before. Also crap customer service. Ask Keith at Apr about his spec experiences over the years.
Helix imo are still the best. UK based so you can talk to them easily on the phone. Manufacture their own pressure plate covers that are a work of art along with the flywheels and friction/drive plates. Only had one issue with one clutch where a spring broke. Got a new plate under warranty no problem. I've been using their 6 paddle single mass for nearly 2 years now. Stiff pedal but the new covers they do are lighter,but hold more pressure somehow.
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Have you had any experience of the loba set-up
And do you sell the helix kits? If so can you pm me the price please of the kit you'd recommend for my spec.
Cheers for the help
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Sure you haven't just glazed the organic plate? This can cause slip... About 1000miles can bring it back in... Speak to Sachs distributor Ed @ APS Brackley... He will advise...
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I think the main K04 issue with the clutches is the mad boost spike when on 2 or 2+, I'm not trying to defend Sachs here at all because what they charge just for a clutch they should hold up a lot better.
I'm trying the Loba orgasmic in the next few weeks, not tried one before so can't comment yet.
The full kit inc single mass flywheel is 900 ish euros I think
Ill Let you know my honest op when it's in sure RobH will too
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Yep
Try buying a brembo caliper from them....... :sick: