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Title: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: Carrera2RS on September 03, 2011, 11:30:42 am
I couldn't find the last APC that was recommended for my mini detail next weekend. Can anyone tell me if I can use this product on my GTi to clean before claying and waxing it has Limonene.

Many Thanks
Title: Re: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: keano on September 03, 2011, 05:28:22 pm
Will be fine  :happy2:

Just make sure it isn't the bleach stuff. The bottles are VERY similar
Title: Re: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: Carrera2RS on September 04, 2011, 07:16:41 am
Great, tks  :happy2:
Title: Re: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: Carrera2RS on September 06, 2011, 07:17:04 pm
 Any advantage in increasing the strength when making up ?
Title: Re: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: stealthwolf on September 07, 2011, 07:55:40 pm
I use 1:10 for most things eg cleaning the plastic/rubber trim. I use 1:4 but only if stripping down LSP and then use it as a pre-wash.
Title: Re: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: Carrera2RS on September 11, 2011, 06:57:27 pm
What is LSP ?!
Title: Re: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: Hedge on September 11, 2011, 06:58:10 pm
Last Stage Protection
Title: Re: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: Carrera2RS on September 11, 2011, 07:10:39 pm
Tks,

So I take it if you want to strip and start again 1:4 is the way to go ?
Title: Re: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: stealthwolf on September 12, 2011, 12:27:47 am
Yeah but I also de-tar, clay, polish and use a paint cleanser - all of which should definitely strip any LSP!  :grin:
Title: Re: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: vRS Carl on September 12, 2011, 09:23:45 am
What paint cleanser do you use stealth?
Title: Re: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: stealthwolf on September 12, 2011, 01:38:39 pm
I use Lime Prime or Lime Prime Lite. Easy to use provided you don't make the mistake I did. Before the first Inters show I went to, machined the car and applied Lime Prime. It said to apply, allow to haze and buff. Which was wrong because it set like rock once hazed. Complete PITA to take off and I gave up because I was so frustrated by it. I now apply a small amount to the panel and then "work it in".
Title: Re: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: Carrera2RS on September 13, 2011, 04:22:48 pm
Whats the best detar ?

Woudln't APC three times over and clay bring the paint up ready for  somethig like a Zymol HD Cleanse then wax ?
Title: Re: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: stealthwolf on September 13, 2011, 10:27:27 pm
I use autosmart tardis. APC wouldn't remove everything. Claying causes micromarring and swirls so you'd need to polish too.
Title: Re: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: Carrera2RS on September 14, 2011, 05:26:16 pm
Tks,  Tadis looks pretty aggressive can an amateur use without damage ?
Title: Re: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: stealthwolf on September 14, 2011, 05:33:16 pm
Just don't drink it. Or leave it on too long. No need to dilute but chuck the MF away after use. If you pour the stuff from the container into say a spray bottle, decant any remaining tardis back into the container and rinse out the bottle, including pumping water through the spray head. Otherwise you'll find Tardis has eaten through the seals!
Title: Re: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: Frenzy on September 14, 2011, 06:45:41 pm
Just don't drink it. Or leave it on too long. No need to dilute but chuck the MF away after use. If you pour the stuff from the container into say a spray bottle, decant any remaining tardis back into the container and rinse out the bottle, including pumping water through the spray head. Otherwise you'll find Tardis has eaten through the seals!

Thanks for that tip, not the bit about avoiding drinking it - i'd just about worked that out for myself though i did wonder if it would make for a smoother alternative to meths  :laugh:

No the bit about the bottle. Possibly too late for the bottle i've currently had it sat in for 2 weeks but at least i won't ruin a 2nd  :grin:
Title: Re: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: stealthwolf on September 14, 2011, 06:59:14 pm
Empty the bottle, rinse it out several times, fill with water and spray the water out. It might not be too late.
Title: Re: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: Carrera2RS on September 18, 2011, 10:59:21 am
Just APC'd twice then cleaned, all wax gone ! I used 1/3 of a bottle for each wash, lots of sponge rubbing then Zymol Clay followed by Zymol HD cleanse and now has a top coat of Zymol Carbon wax. Looking amazing

Is it worth putting more than one coat of wax on ? How long between coats ?
Title: Re: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: stealthwolf on September 18, 2011, 01:47:56 pm
I always put two coats on ensure maximum coverage - you might've missed some spots or applied too thinly in some areas, so a second coat is always worthwhile.

I also tend to let the first layer fully cure. This is usually around 48 hours, which generally means the following weekend for me.
Title: Re: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: Carrera2RS on September 26, 2011, 06:38:47 pm
Before......

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After ......

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Title: Re: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: nads1_uk on September 26, 2011, 06:45:56 pm
Jesus that's shiney mate!  What products did you use? I've taken the day off tomorrow to get my Dbp spotless - if the weather holds!

Andy
Title: Re: All Purpose ECOVER lemon okay as an APC ?
Post by: Carrera2RS on September 26, 2011, 06:58:11 pm
1. Ecover APC 4:1 three washes, sills, front lower and door bottoms and skirts tar remover
2. Zymol Clay all panels
3. Zymol HD Cleanse, two coats and local polishing
4. Zymol Carbon wax, two coats

The only thing I need is something to deal with mini stone chips from lots of motorway miles.