MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: daz5182 on September 08, 2011, 11:34:31 am
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Well I've had an injector go on my GT 170 and wondered if it was a common problem and if the injectors could be refurbished?
I've just had to pay £953 for the injector and the wiring harness to be fixed....
Cheers
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i have heard it is a common problem on the 170 models
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is the 170 a 2.0 and the 140 a 1.9?
The car is ace don't get me wrong but that was one hell of a bill to get!!!
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no the 170 & 140 are 2.0 :happy2:
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I reckon it's a common fault as I know of 2 170's that it's happened too. They were done on warranty tho.
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I think you should push for a partial (dependent on amount of service history) refund.
A friend has just had the remaining 2 injectors (2 changed as single units when they stopped functioning in the last 6 months) changed by Audi FOC.
All 4 were changed FOC, he had a long chat with Audi C/s, and they sorted it.
Car was well out of warranty (2007/07 plate) with FSH.
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yeah that the issue you see, mine ran out of warranty ages ago (56 plate) and hasn't been serviced at main dealer for the last few times, always VW parts have been used juts wasn't preparend to pay the labour....
I've taken out a warranty now for a year so hopefully that will help if the need arrises.
Cheers
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The pieza(sp) injectors are a weak spot of the 170 diesel but they where also fitted to the 140 pd but only in the Passat, a little tip if you call vw customer services and demand that they be all changed due to safety reasons they will do it! After all you dont want sudden loss of power when your over taking and have a head on with someone coming the other way?? This has been discussed a lot on honest John and Vw don't want to recall the cars so they are just paying for the repairs BUT you need to contact VWCS and demand they be changed and you be compensated for what you have already paid.
Darren
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The pieza(sp) injectors are a weak spot of the 170 diesel but they where also fitted to the 140 pd but only in the Passat, a little tip if you call vw customer services and demand that they be all changed due to safety reasons they will do it! After all you dont want sudden loss of power when your over taking and have a head on with someone coming the other way?? This has been discussed a lot on honest John and Vw don't want to recall the cars so they are just paying for the repairs BUT you need to contact VWCS and demand they be changed and you be compensated for what you have already paid.
Darren
How come they were only fitted to the passat 140 and not the golf ? my friend at work has the passat 140 and his went like you say sudden loss of power engine light went on etc. he's had them replaced and now his dmf is starting to go. what a nightmare. was worried that this would happen to my golf, so are the injectors of a more reliable sort that they are fitting in recalls / and as standard on other models?
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The pieza(sp) injectors are a weak spot of the 170 diesel but they where also fitted to the 140 pd but only in the Passat, a little tip if you call vw customer services and demand that they be all changed due to safety reasons they will do it! After all you dont want sudden loss of power when your over taking and have a head on with someone coming the other way?? This has been discussed a lot on honest John and Vw don't want to recall the cars so they are just paying for the repairs BUT you need to contact VWCS and demand they be changed and you be compensated for what you have already paid.
Darren
That is amazing mate, what is honest John? you got any links for me to have a look at?
Thanks Darren
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Sorry to hear of your issues Daz.
Is this an issue that hasn't so far been affecting the post 2008 VAG common rail 170ps engines, specifically the Mk6 and A3 8P3 (facelift) platform in the same way?
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i've found honest john, doing a search but not finding much....
any direction would be a great help....??
Thank you
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I cannot find it now Ill have a look on my history in the morning :happy2:
Darren
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I had an Injector go down at '70' mph in the outside lane of the M2 at approx 70,000 miles. It was a scary situation; total loss of power and was forced to barge my way across 2 lanes of unhelpful traffic and fortunately coast up a slip road! :scared:
Our 170 was still in warranty but VW would only give 'good will' to the lease company. It took us 6 hours to finish the last 52 miles of our journey and the GT sat in the local stealers for 5 days while they argued about the cost!!!! :fighting:........................ They only replaced the faulty injector and associated loom.
Apart from that and 4 replacement exhaust sensors it covered 127,000 miles in 41 months faultlessly. :laugh:
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I cannot find it now Ill have a look on my history in the morning :happy2:
Darren
thank you mate, and cheers again for the heads up :happy2:
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Sorry to hear of your issues Daz.
Is this an issue that hasn't so far been affecting the post 2008 VAG common rail 170ps engines, specifically the Mk6 and A3 8P3 (facelift) platform in the same way?
don't know mate it seems it's only the PIEZO injectors.... unless they have updated them?
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I had an Injector go down at '70' mph in the outside lane of the M2 at approx 70,000 miles. It was a scary situation; total loss of power and was forced to barge my way across 2 lanes of unhelpful traffic and fortunately coast up a slip road! :scared:
Our 170 was still in warranty but VW would only give 'good will' to the lease company. It took us 6 hours to finish the last 52 miles of our journey and the GT sat in the local stealers for 5 days while they argued about the cost!!!! :fighting:........................ They only replaced the faulty injector and associated loom.
Apart from that and 4 replacement exhaust sensors it covered 127,000 miles in 41 months faultlessly. :laugh:
i feel for you pal, mine went at 1am in the morning during moving the last load when moving house.... was a nightmare, was scary too, everything goes, steering the lot! managed to knock it out of gear and coat to a safe place to pull over.
Didn't expect it of a VAG, my last honda never missed a beat, and vauxhalls for that matter
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Sorry to hear of your issues Daz.
Is this an issue that hasn't so far been affecting the post 2008 VAG common rail 170ps engines, specifically the Mk6 and A3 8P3 (facelift) platform in the same way?
don't know mate it seems it's only the PIEZO injectors.... unless they have updated them?
This is probably an important question to anyone (like myself) who may be considering the newer 170 CR TDI engines in the future?
:popcornsoda:
Ta.
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Apparently this has not shown its head in the newer CR engines so upto now seems fine.
Darren
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Apparently this has not shown its head in the newer CR engines so upto now seems fine.
Darren
Happy Days, that sounds good...... it's dangerous!!!
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just a reply publicly to thank morty, on his advice i've spoken to VW who are refunding the £950 i have spent and also replacing the other 3 injectors!
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happy ending mate :happy2:
Darren
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That's a great result Daz :happy2:
Superb pointers from Mr Mortimer as ever :drinking: I'll bear this in mind as I've been looking at 170 derv boxes for a while! :ashamed:
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By the way Daz this is the post on honestjohn
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=86615 (http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/forum/post/index.htm?t=86615)
Darren :happy2:
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That's a great result Daz :happy2:
Superb pointers from Mr Mortimer as ever :drinking: I'll bear this in mind as I've been looking at 170 derv boxes for a while! :ashamed:
Amazing result! I'm chuffed to bits!