MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Sat Nav and Car Audio => Topic started by: nick_johnson on September 28, 2011, 02:15:38 pm
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Good Afternoon,
I am need of some RNS 510 help, about 6 months ago after browsing the forums I noticed that I was running old firmware on my Sat Nav unit. I notice that there was a sticky in the Nav section concerning upgrades and I swiftly upgraded to 2760, once I had run the update in the car it was apparent that I could now enter Post Codes however each time I switch the unit on it thought I was in Germany.
On a resent trip to the South Of France it became rather annoying, I notice that I could upgrade to 130X which doesn't support Voice Control but that doest bother me or is there something newer out now.
On a separate note where is the best place to get the latest version of maps?
Nick
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Just so you guys know this is what come up 99% of the time when I switch the car on:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi26.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc110%2Fn15ky%2FIMG-20110622-00071.jpg&hash=e22e12a8429241694bbd8bbb0d3ff7276009b776)
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If you have a Rev a unit then you will get Regensburg Syndrome with the later firmware due to changes in where the last GPS location is stored. 1300 works with 6 figure postcodes from my experience with a B version and will also not have battery drain issues, but not sure if it solves Regensburg syndrome.
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Regensburg happens even on factory fit nav's and also on A/B/C revisions.
The best way to cure it is either have the gps antenna on the dash (or as high up in the dash as possible) or preferably use the OEM GPS antenna which is roof mounted.
Any firmware above 2660 will cause this issue.
1300 is higher than 2760 as it is based on 2800 firmware but doesn't have voice control.
You won't get rid of it. I get it now with an LED version nav on 2844 firmware. But due to having the OEM Antenna the sympton goes within 5 secs.
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Just about to burn the disc now, so I will report back.
Just to confirm, I will not loose Video In Motion and stored HDD music will I if I install different firmware.
Nick
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Regensburg happens even on factory fit nav's and also on A/B/C revisions.
The best way to cure it is either have the gps antenna on the dash (or as high up in the dash as possible) or preferably use the OEM GPS antenna which is roof mounted.
Any firmware above 2660 will cause this issue.
1300 is higher than 2760 as it is based on 2800 firmware but doesn't have voice control.
You won't get rid of it. I get it now with an LED version nav on 2844 firmware. But due to having the OEM Antenna the sympton goes within 5 secs.
Oh right I have only seen it on A hardware with newer firmware, and not had it on my B and running 38xx (I dont have working POI but thats a different issue)
I know you know more about this than me Carl so must just be my limited experience of 3-4 units!
Nick cant comment on VIM depends how its been enabled, you only loose HDD music if its a full revision firmware which formats the HDD, incremental changes leave maps and music intacted. Carl or my-gti will tell you which are the full format versions.
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I get it now with an LED version nav on 2844 firmware. But due to having the OEM Antenna the sympton goes within 5 secs.
Carl,
I would be happy to wait 5 seconds I am not that impatient :happy2:, you mention a OEM Antenna for the best fix do you mean a roof mounted? If so where could I get myself one of these, do you have a VW pat number?
Nick
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Installing new firmware "shouldn't" wipe the HDD or alter VIM etc. There is a CD available to download now that will re-enable it.
The only firmwares that im aware of will wipe the drives are 1200, 2660 and any 3XXX firmware (if coming from a 2XXX firmware) as they repartition the drive.
The OEM Antenna is the Roof mounted one. I can get the part no. but im away with work at the moment and haven't got my laptop with me. If you ring a VW Dealer they should be able to tell you the P/no. and also order you one.
I'm not guaranteeing that it will be 5 secs for you but the longest i've had to wait is about 30 secs.
Oh right I have only seen it on A hardware with newer firmware, and not had it on my B and running 38xx (I dont have working POI but thats a different issue)
I know you know more about this than me Carl so must just be my limited experience of 3-4 units!
No worries mate :drinking: Not all units will display Regensburg which is why i think (but can't prove) it is also down to GPS hardware.
I have a Skoda LED (which is newer than a VW C LED) and i still get it even with 2844 firmware.
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Thanks Carl, you have been very helpful.
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One other thing Carl, could you advise me on the best place to get a latest up to date version of Maps.
I have a slightly updated version I believe but not the latest, it does however have speed cameras loaded on it, will this be something that would stays if updated to the latest version.
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Nick, if you are on a 2xxx and go to another 2xxx then you will keep all your maps and music, which will include the move to 1300. So with 2760 you can move to any other 2xxx without issue to the hard drive.
you might need to get the VIM cd that carl mentions.
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I suffer from this chronically Nick and I've been on about four different firmware versions in the time I've had the RNS 510.
I think now I'm on the latest firmware after a trip down to see Stu, but it still does it and this is the reason I carry a TomTom with me and have a HTC GPS ready mobile phone :ashamed: :grin:
I'd say around 1 in 5 trips, I'll flick to the Nav after 30 minutes + on the road and it'll have magically detected I'm on the A14 or M1, two places you'd expect to be a volcano hot spot for signal and satellite availability. Never mind, apart from that I still think it's a fantastic bit of kit as a unit :smiley:
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One other thing Carl, could you advise me on the best place to get a latest up to date version of Maps.
I have a slightly updated version I believe but not the latest, it does however have speed cameras loaded on it, will this be something that would stays if updated to the latest version.
There are People who have map discs. The latest is 7.2 (but V8 is due any day and east Europe V8 are out)
If you change the maps you will lose the speed cameras unless you get a modified map disc which has the speed cameras added.
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does v8 have poi support for the 3xxx firmware stu or will that need to be custom via SD card?
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My name is Carl not Stu :P
I haven't got much experience with 3XXX firmwares but I believe the 39XX firmwares do.
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My name is Carl not Stu :P
I haven't got much experience with 3XXX firmwares but I believe the 39XX firmwares do.
Sorry I think I have done this before! its the VRS bit and my brain being somewhat special and dyslexic :rolleye:
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Hi Guys,
Just a little update to let you know how I got on with Firmware 1300 (2800) on my RNS-510, at first I was a little worried as when I switched it on it loaded in a German location but the map wasn't even moving while driving. I contemplated going straight back to 2760 but thought I would give it a bit of time to see if anything happened and thankfully it did, although it is still very early days I can 100% say the unit is getting a GPS lock 50% quicker than it did before on the older firmware.
I understand I need to wait and see if this faster speed is consistent but as of now I am pleased, I haven't tried VIM as yet but if this is still active then I will a happy bunny.
Just out of interest what is the latest firmware, what are the key benefits over 1300 (2800) and what is POI support?
Nick
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You have the latest firmware the only difference any of the others have over 1300 is voice control. The 3XXX series firwares are still Beta's although the 397X firwares are very stable. However unless you have a B revision or higher unit then you can't use them and in all honesty i wouldn't bother as they don't bring anything majorly different to the party apart from a new splash screen and repartitioning of the drive into 3 sections
POI support is for people who modify the map discs and add there own POI's (Speed Camera's, Shell garages etc)
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You have the latest firmware the only difference any of the others have over 1300 is voice control. The 3XXX series firwares are still Beta's although the 397X firwares are very stable. However unless you have a B revision or higher unit then you can't use them and in all honesty i wouldn't bother as they don't bring anything majorly different to the party apart from a new splash screen and repartitioning of the drive into 3 sections
POI support is for people who modify the map discs and add there own POI's (Speed Camera's, Shell garages etc)
The major benefit that the 3xxx series gives you is being able to upload POIs from a SD card rather than having to burn a new map cd every time you want to update them :happy2:
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Sorry for restarting this thread but thought it was better than starting a new one.
Could anyone recommen a firmware version for a HW11 Version B RNS-510. I'm currently on 1100 due to an old gateway but I'm about to swap this over to a new one.
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I think I'm running 2710.
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Stealth you will be running 2720 :wink:
Pazz - the best one for you would be 2764 which is linked in the Firmware turtorial in the Satnav section :happy2:
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I remember it being 27x0 but couldn't recall if it was 2710 or 2720.
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Stealth you will be running 2720 :wink:
Pazz - the best one for you would be 2764 which is linked in the Firmware turtorial in the Satnav section :happy2:
Thanks Carl.
I hear people suggest burning to DVD's only. Any particular other suggestions? Perhaps brand of DVD?
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I use Verbatim but you need to get the right sort.
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Stealth you will be running 2720 :wink:
Pazz - the best one for you would be 2764 which is linked in the Firmware turtorial in the Satnav section :happy2:
Thanks Carl.
I hear people suggest burning to DVD's only. Any particular other suggestions? Perhaps brand of DVD?
It really does depend on the Nav unit.
I've come across Nav units that will accept either, some that will only accept DVD and some that will only accept CD.
DVD-R generally works fine. Verbatim discs are usually problem free but i've used Tesco/Asda ones before and they have worked fine as well.
Just make sure you burn it as slow as possible, verify it afterwards and all should be ok :happy2:
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I see there's a 2840 but no download link yet...
http://www.my-gti.com/3164/volkswagen-rns-510-firmware-upgrade-to-version-2840-2844-2846-2848 (http://www.my-gti.com/3164/volkswagen-rns-510-firmware-upgrade-to-version-2840-2844-2846-2848)
Just only want to do this once!
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Just FYI any of you that experience this, I still do to this day despite upgrading several firmware versions. I'm currently running 2720 to my knowledge after a visit to Stu :happy2:
I've simply learnt to live with it :grin: I'm either still getting it because I'm terribly unlucky, or I've permanently had a faulty RNS unit or even antenna(?). Either way, I've not pursued it any further.
Don't be surprised though for it to still affect you once changing firmware/map versions if your unit's anything like mine :stupid: :rolleye:
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I see there's a 2840 but no download link yet...
http://www.my-gti.com/3164/volkswagen-rns-510-firmware-upgrade-to-version-2840-2844-2846-2848 (http://www.my-gti.com/3164/volkswagen-rns-510-firmware-upgrade-to-version-2840-2844-2846-2848)
Just only want to do this once!
I had that on mine before i went to 3984.
Honestly there is no difference between 276X and 284X :happy2:
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Just FYI any of you that experience this, I still do to this day despite upgrading several firmware versions. I'm currently running 2720 to my knowledge after a visit to Stu :happy2:
I've simply learnt to live with it :grin: I'm either still getting it because I'm terribly unlucky, or I've permanently had a faulty RNS unit or even antenna(?). Either way, I've not pursued it any further.
Don't be surprised though for it to still affect you once changing firmware/map versions if your unit's anything like mine :stupid: :rolleye:
Yup i get it now with a factory roof antenna and an LED RNS on 3984. But it goes within at most 10 secs.
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Just FYI any of you that experience this, I still do to this day despite upgrading several firmware versions. I'm currently running 2720 to my knowledge after a visit to Stu :happy2:
I've simply learnt to live with it :grin: I'm either still getting it because I'm terribly unlucky, or I've permanently had a faulty RNS unit or even antenna(?). Either way, I've not pursued it any further.
Don't be surprised though for it to still affect you once changing firmware/map versions if your unit's anything like mine :stupid: :rolleye:
What version RNS do you have rdfcpete?