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Title: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: duncan on April 03, 2009, 12:39:12 pm
am considering getting my brakes upgraded now that the car is mapped, dont feel like the standard ones are quite up to it

would really want to spend a max of 1k and dont have any intentions of going to stage 2.

what would be the best option - get the front brake set from a cupra or R32? or would i need to get bigger pot calipers?
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: WhiteGTI on April 03, 2009, 12:49:29 pm
am considering getting my brakes upgraded now that the car is mapped, dont feel like the standard ones are quite up to it

would really want to spend a max of 1k and dont have any intentions of going to stage 2.

what would be the best option - get the front brake set from a cupra or R32? or would i need to get bigger pot calipers?

Lol....you say that now, but I guarantee you will end up doing it at some point!! Such is the way with modifying, and this forum is a really bad influence!  :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: duncan on April 03, 2009, 12:55:02 pm
to be honest - i would get a WALK kit, big brakes and LSD before i go near stage 2, and only then would i do it if the insurance wasnt a complete joke.

as it stands am the most broke ive been in 5 years after spending money i dont have on a remap and other bits and pieces on the car so will be a while before i can afford it and ive still got a long time before ill get bored of the performance!
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: Hurdy on April 03, 2009, 10:19:44 pm
In that case you need to update your sig :signLOL:
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: keith on April 03, 2009, 10:50:10 pm
am considering getting my brakes upgraded now that the car is mapped, dont feel like the standard ones are quite up to it

would really want to spend a max of 1k and dont have any intentions of going to stage 2.

what would be the best option - get the front brake set from a cupra or R32? or would i need to get bigger pot calipers?

Its a popular question on here, but what do you do with your car?
track days, 1/4 mile.Or just fast road use, if its the later then 1k on a big brake set up is a waste of money the r32 would do you fine at about £500.
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on April 03, 2009, 10:53:57 pm
How are the R32 brakes different from the stock GTi ones?

Are they larger?  Have larger calipers/pots?
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: Hedge on April 03, 2009, 11:21:26 pm
Bigger (345mm) discs and calipers I am led to believe.
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on April 03, 2009, 11:51:53 pm
Are they straight replacements, or are changes required...?
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: SteveP on April 04, 2009, 12:03:49 am
Fronts are a straight bolt on (if you buy all the correct parts), rears need some small modification to the splash guards IIRC  :happy2:
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on April 04, 2009, 09:00:48 am
Anyoen know of a fitting guide I can glance through before I commit to yet another mod?

Look at me...thinking about spending more time and money...  :evilgrin:

P.S.  I don't want the calipers to be blue...can you get them in red (or will I have to paint them)?
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: icenutter on April 04, 2009, 09:52:32 am
'scuse my ignorance; what is a WALK kit?
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: Greeners on April 04, 2009, 09:59:21 am
Anyoen know of a fitting guide I can glance through before I commit to yet another mod?

Look at me...thinking about spending more time and money...  :evilgrin:

P.S.  I don't want the calipers to be blue...can you get them in red (or will I have to paint them)?

If you get the Leon Cupra R braked they are identical to R32 ones but have Red calipers  :happy2:
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: Greeners on April 04, 2009, 10:00:04 am
'scuse my ignorance; what is a WALK kit?

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=395.0

 :happy2:
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: QD MBE on April 04, 2009, 10:15:29 am
Anyoen know of a fitting guide I can glance through before I commit to yet another mod?

Look at me...thinking about spending more time and money...  :evilgrin:

P.S.  I don't want the calipers to be blue...can you get them in red (or will I have to paint them)?

They really are very easy to fit, the fronts are a virtually direct replacement, all you need are the Splash guards, discs, calipers, pads, carriers, and brake lines.

The rears are even easier, Discs, carriers, are all you will need, the splash guards can be reused (with some slight tweaks) and the pads and lines are the same.

Rear how to

http://worldimpex.com/assets/partdocuments/DIY_Rear_310mm_R32-1.pdf (http://worldimpex.com/assets/partdocuments/DIY_Rear_310mm_R32-1.pdf)

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=995.75 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=995.75)

Can't find anything as yet.  But it really is so easy

Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: luca on April 04, 2009, 10:34:24 am
I have the leon cupra fronts on mine. Plenty of stopping power, you could even put ferodo ds2500 pads front and rear with that setup and you would still have around £250 change from £1k :happy2:
The brakes fill the alloys nicely too
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fff284%2Flucachiarelli%2FDSC00021.jpg&hash=2566a04fc6587e63ee5e6f4307f5bb01d6ae032e)
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: duncan on April 04, 2009, 01:02:29 pm
i think thats the move

get some Leon Cupra front brakes - would i notice a big difference if i got the rears as well? how much do you think just the front brakes and fitting would come to?

Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: Hedge on April 04, 2009, 01:04:57 pm
This should help.
http://www.jkm.org.uk/performance/tfsibrakes.htm
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: luca on April 04, 2009, 02:34:17 pm
i think thats the move

get some Leon Cupra front brakes - would i notice a big difference if i got the rears as well? how much do you think just the front brakes and fitting would come to?



You can get the full front brake kit from matted30 for around £600, fitting should be no more than £100.
The leon rears are the same as the gti so no point in getting those.
Leon fronts are more than enough, my ed30 is over 300bhp and they stop the car just fine :wink:
I will wait until the stock pads run out, then i will go for the ferodo pads :smiley:
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: duncan on April 05, 2009, 01:12:48 am
i think thats the move

get some Leon Cupra front brakes - would i notice a big difference if i got the rears as well? how much do you think just the front brakes and fitting would come to?



You can get the full front brake kit from matted30 for around £600, fitting should be no more than £100.
The leon rears are the same as the gti so no point in getting those.
Leon fronts are more than enough, my ed30 is over 300bhp and they stop the car just fine :wink:
I will wait until the stock pads run out, then i will go for the ferodo pads :smiley:

will be a while before i can afford them but since the remap am definitely finding the stock brakes arnt good enough

£700ish including fitting isnt too bad to be honest - if and when i do start modding the car, next on the list would be an LSD + WALK kit.

am loving the car after the remap - is running so much quicker than before - really does make a massive massive difference

Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on April 05, 2009, 08:53:05 am
Not sure what the acronyns mean...

LSD = Limited Slip Differential?
WALK = ?

Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: QD MBE on April 05, 2009, 09:28:09 am
Whiteline Anti Lift Kit

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=395.0 (http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=395.0)
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on April 05, 2009, 10:23:05 am
I have the leon cupra fronts on mine. Plenty of stopping power, you could even put ferodo ds2500 pads front and rear with that setup and you would still have around £250 change from £1k :happy2:
The brakes fill the alloys nicely too
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fff284%2Flucachiarelli%2FDSC00021.jpg&hash=2566a04fc6587e63ee5e6f4307f5bb01d6ae032e)

Notice a difference with ferredo pads? wanted the ecs stage 5 kit but im not going to track enough to justify price.
Might just get new discs with ferredo pads...
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: luca on April 05, 2009, 09:23:14 pm
Dont have the ferodo pads yet.
Waiting for the stock leon cupra pads to run out :smiley:
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: bacillus on April 05, 2009, 10:04:31 pm
Dont have the ferodo pads yet.
Waiting for the stock leon cupra pads to run out :smiley:

It's a good thing that you have black rims as the Ferroda pads are more dusty. 
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 06, 2009, 09:55:19 am
There is some new pads coming out very soon for stock brakes and maybe discs but will post up when I have them
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on April 06, 2009, 01:27:46 pm
There is some new pads coming out very soon for stock brakes and maybe discs but will post up when I have them
Thanks for the heads-up...keen to hear what these are as soon as you get the info.
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: JPC on April 06, 2009, 02:29:09 pm
ive got the ferodo pads with my r32 front brakes.
in my book stock pads are very dusty, the ferodos aren't so.

Now i bought the car, 0 miles then put the r32 brakes and ferodo pads on within 20 or so miles. I havent run r32 brakes with stock pads, so i couldnt properly comment on dust with this.

But, i would say, i dont have a dust problem with my set up!

and they stop incredibly!!

put it this way....ive been driving a C63 all afternoon with mahoosive brakes (stock pads i would guess) and the brakes on that felt nowhere near as sharp, and im not romancing!!



Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: xxx_mojo_xxx on April 06, 2009, 05:18:52 pm
Where do you recommend to get these "magical" Ferodo brake pads from?
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: luca on April 06, 2009, 06:10:46 pm
how much were the pads jay?
Did you get rear pads too?
Title: Re: most Cost effective Brake upgrade?
Post by: JPC on April 06, 2009, 07:16:29 pm
nah didnt buy the rears because ive not got the r32 rear brakes fitted yet.

there painted, just not fitted! haha!

and the fronts were about 135 from balancemotorsport.co.uk