MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Jussa on October 14, 2011, 07:27:30 pm

Title: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: Jussa on October 14, 2011, 07:27:30 pm
Guys,

Looking to trade my stage 2+ GTi in for an S3 (58 plate)
Any idea if I can transfer any of the bits from 1 to the other like my ITG CAI, Milltek TBE or my Forge Twintercooler?  :confused:
All suggestions would be greatly appreciated.   :happy2:
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on October 14, 2011, 07:29:04 pm

ITG yes, Miltek I think is slightly different, twintercooler yes but may need different hoses  :happy2:
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: sub39h on October 14, 2011, 07:29:18 pm
twintercooler maybe, the other bits probably not
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: s3dubbin on October 14, 2011, 07:31:07 pm
I would say yes to all....with minor tweeks and alterations worth keeping tho. Stevie.
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: heavyd on October 14, 2011, 07:39:16 pm
downpipe is te same part number listed for leon, golf and audi on the site I looked at
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: Jussa on October 14, 2011, 07:41:43 pm
A bit of a mixed bag then???
How can some of you be so sure on the ITG for instance and others say blatantly no?  :confused:

 :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: sub39h on October 14, 2011, 07:44:04 pm
well the part numbers and prices on the ITG website for the S3 and the K03 GTI are different
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: s3dubbin on October 14, 2011, 07:47:08 pm
Everthin can be modded to fit?? Keep them all and you will manage to get them on with no trouble at all, a little help from forge and itg then its the exhaust, downpipe should fit unsure about the rest of zaust bcos of the prop. Stevie.
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: SteveP on October 14, 2011, 07:51:37 pm
well the part numbers and prices on the ITG website for the S3 and the K03 GTI are different

Just needs a take off port adding to the ITG for the DV, £25 part from ebay does the job  :happy2:
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: s3dubbin on October 14, 2011, 07:53:15 pm
well the part numbers and prices on the ITG website for the S3 and the K03 GTI are different

Of course they are...one is k03 and one k04. Only differenace is adding the dv port for the k04. Stevie.
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: Jussa on October 14, 2011, 07:58:07 pm
sounds good  :laugh:
I take it fitting the ITG to the S3 is like fitting it to an ED30 cause it's K04 it needs a different pipe?
When you say the downpipe, is that the expensive part with the CAT?  :party:
As for the Twintercooler, u reckon I only need a few different hoses?  :happy2:
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: s3dubbin on October 14, 2011, 08:02:09 pm
Exactly mate, different pipe. If it has a cat yes the part connected to the bine. And the cooler mite not be as easy as just hoses, the brackets might need moved slightly. Could be wrong av never done it. Easier than buying a new one tho. Stevie.
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: Jussa on October 14, 2011, 08:05:05 pm
What's the bine???  :confused:
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: s3dubbin on October 14, 2011, 08:06:42 pm
That f*cking huge thing you have beside your forum name!!!!! Turbine. lol.  :driver:
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: Jussa on October 14, 2011, 08:10:19 pm
 :signLOL: yes its the full turbo back system.
I'll give AMD a call in the morning and ask them whether it can move across  :happy2:
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: heavyd on October 14, 2011, 08:32:14 pm
The part numbers listed on roadrunner motorsport  website for the downpipe and connecting pipe is the same for the s3 and the gti
Large Bore Downpipe and Hi-Flow Sports Cat - Must be fitted with the Milltek Sport cat-back system and requires a Stage 2 ECU remap         MSAU342      3.00" (76.20mm)   Downpipe and Hi-Flow Sports Catalyst   £637.03
          MSAU343         Connecting Pipe   £36.81
TOTAL:   £673.83
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: Jussa on October 15, 2011, 12:36:32 am
Yes, but I think it's only the downpipe that fits, after that I think the rest won't fit, so I'll have to buy it?  :confused:
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: sub39h on October 15, 2011, 12:45:43 am
but that's the expensive bit sorted!

you could easily shift your milltek cat back and buy an S3 one.
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: Little_Dave on October 15, 2011, 12:51:20 am
Yeah the routing on the cat back will be different but like others have said the ITG can be modded and the downpipe is ok to swap over thank god  :wink:  the S3 would definitely be a serious contender for my next car if and when i sell on the GTI  :notworthy:

Dave
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: Jussa on October 15, 2011, 12:57:57 am
 :signLOL: the problem I have is that I don't have a standard cat back to replace on my GTi so I can sell it.  I guess I'll have to offer it in exchange for a standard 1 (to put back on my car) with a bit of cash on top.  How much extra could I charge, £200?
Its now only to confirm the twintercooler will fit  :confused:
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: Little_Dave on October 15, 2011, 01:05:42 am
Its now only to confirm the twintercooler will fit  :confused:

Believe i read somewhere on here or another forum that the pipes are definitely routed differently and you'd need to mod the brackets by drilling new mounting holes to make it fit but that's alot cheaper than £500+ for a new one and the hassle of selling your one too  :happy2:
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: Jussa on October 15, 2011, 01:18:16 am
Just found a link on retrofitting the twintercooler to the S3.
I assume all these twintercoolers are the same   :surprised:

http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/media/FMINTS3FS(1).pdf
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: monte on October 15, 2011, 01:19:23 am
Guys,

Looking to trade my stage 2+ GTi in for an S3 (58 plate)
Any idea if I can transfer any of the bits from 1 to the other like my ITG CAI, Milltek TBE or my Forge Twintercooler?  :confused:
All suggestions would be greatly appreciated.   :happy2:

Best way I can think of is to put all the parts in the boot of the gti, then, (and you could get a mate to help with the lifting) park the S3 back to back with the golf, open both boots and then transfer.

 :grin:

....I'll get me coat  :ashamed:
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: Little_Dave on October 15, 2011, 01:23:01 am
There's always one  :congrats:
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: monte on October 15, 2011, 11:33:27 pm
There's always one  :congrats:

Yeah sorry guys, I had my funny head on :ashamed:

...I was born 12weeks immature though.  :wink:
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: Jussa on October 15, 2011, 11:35:11 pm
 :signLOL: funny thing is the milltek downpipe from the GTi its the S3, but the S3 down pipe doesn't fit the GTi  :confused:
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: GNJ_Motorsport on October 16, 2011, 02:40:55 pm
Milltek - Downpipe definitely will fit, cat back system won't.

ITG - as said you just need the hose that fits on to the turbo as it has a take off pipe for the DV return pipe.

Twintercooler - This is a funny one. You definitely need different hoses for a start and the actual twintercooler core may have different brackets on it. If I had a GTI one in stock at the moment I'd compare them for you but I don't just have the S3 kit. For the price of the hoses and messing with moving the brackets and what you could sell the GTI kit for on here I'd say you are better off selling the twintercooler and buying a new S3 one.

In the end I don't think its going to cost you that much to swap it all over  :happy2:
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: Jussa on October 16, 2011, 05:10:58 pm
Thanks for the info mate  :happy2:
I may actually sell the twintercooler and not bother replacing it, I've heard the S3 intercooler is sufficient, or is that rubbish?
 :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: Little_Dave on October 16, 2011, 10:55:41 pm
Thanks for the info mate  :happy2:
I may actually sell the twintercooler and not bother replacing it, I've heard the S3 intercooler is sufficient, or is that rubbish?
 :popcornsoda:

Hmmmm.... did you find the car different with the twintercooler? i know it doesnt add bhp or torque but did you notice it driving or feeling better or worse??

Dave
Title: Re: Going from GTi to S3
Post by: GNJ_Motorsport on October 16, 2011, 11:31:43 pm
Thanks for the info mate  :happy2:
I may actually sell the twintercooler and not bother replacing it, I've heard the S3 intercooler is sufficient, or is that rubbish?
 :popcornsoda:

Well the S3 cooler is better than a GTI one as you know but I will still be fitting a Twintercooler to my S3. Maybe just sell the twintercooler now and buy a new S3 one in the spring ready for summer. Not really as much of an issue in winter!