MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: MK5 GTI stage1 poor mpg!
Post by: namz1 on October 21, 2011, 01:13:12 am
Iv been getting really low mpgs recently, last tank fill up giving me 230 miles and that being motorway miles mostly cruising at 70!
I know that this is much lower than most people get here, the mods i have are amd stage 1, evoms intake, blueflame catback,
has anyone got any ideas what could be causing it?
Title: Re: MK5 GTI stage1 poor mpg!
Post by: Saint Steve on October 21, 2011, 08:00:14 am
Iv been getting really low mpgs recently, last tank fill up giving me 230 miles and that being motorway miles mostly cruising at 70!
I know that this is much lower than most people get here, the mods i have are amd stage 1, evoms intake, blueflame catback,and perhaps an over zealous right foot..,
has anyone got any ideas what could be causing it?

These perhaps :rolleye:
Title: Re: MK5 GTI stage1 poor mpg!
Post by: RedRobin on October 21, 2011, 08:22:34 am
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I don't quite understand why anyone upgrading to a remap would expect improved mpg - I would expect the contrary as higher performance demands more fuel.
Title: Re: MK5 GTI stage1 poor mpg!
Post by: keano on October 21, 2011, 09:11:13 am
I know that I see higher mpg returns since remapping my car Robin. Especially @ motorway conditions & sporting my economy hat! :innocent:

Title: Re: MK5 GTI stage1 poor mpg!
Post by: RedRobin on October 21, 2011, 09:21:48 am
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I guess I don't have an economy hat! Life's too short for me not to enjoy myself and I don't mean driving fast just for the sake of it but making progress responsibly.

Having said that, I've been seeing the number 29 on my mpg display quite often recently instead of 26.
Title: Re: MK5 GTI stage1 poor mpg!
Post by: john_o on October 21, 2011, 09:37:53 am
what was the mpg before the remap?
how many miles on car? last service ?
have you had the DV or PCV changed or updated, as often these fail post remap.

if you remove the oil dipstick while the engine is running does it change its idle speed and go 'rough' ? (it should do)
if it doesnt would suspect your PCV
Also worth a full scan with vcds to check for fault codes post remap.
Title: Re: MK5 GTI stage1 poor mpg!
Post by: monte on October 21, 2011, 09:52:40 am
I don't really understand how the different revo settings technically affect fuel consumption, but.....
I know for a fact, that if I run my car on the more aggressive settings (B8,T4,AF9) I seem to get alot better mpg, rather than using my everyday settings (B6,T5,AF9)  :confused:
This is when im trying to drive economically of course. If I put my foot down, that's another story.  :evilgrin:

Title: Re: MK5 GTI stage1 poor mpg!
Post by: rich83 on October 21, 2011, 10:32:34 am
My mpg hasnt changed much since my remap. So either something's wrong with the car or you have elephantiasis in your right leg :-)
Title: Re: MK5 GTI stage1 poor mpg!
Post by: alexperkins on October 21, 2011, 10:56:09 pm
My MPG is always shocking but thats because i bought the car to drive it like it was made to be driven  :signLOL: And yes, a rather lead like right foot doesn't help me out  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: MK5 GTI stage1 poor mpg!
Post by: maxload on October 21, 2011, 11:05:11 pm
Iv been getting really low mpgs recently,

If your looking for good mpg with all those mods , then i'm sorry but I think you have bought the wrong car buddy  :booty:
Title: Re: MK5 GTI stage1 poor mpg!
Post by: RedRobin on October 22, 2011, 09:26:48 am

No i dont have a over zealous right foot im talking of economy to save fuel so obv am talking about driving gently cruising, and the mods considered i have read many places where people are running stage 2 and achieve 35 mpg+ and roughly 350 miles to a tank or more, specailly motorway miles should be the most


....I've never seen my fuel tank display show as many as 350 miles when filled - Usually a max of 320. The only mpg value I look at is on the display and it's very rare indeed even when cruising gently etc that I see over 30 mpg. I know that petrol is expensive but her mpg is a bit academic. Someone I know had a Mk5 GTI, then a Mk6 GTD - He changed because he's not a performance car driver and didn't like the mpg.
Title: Re: MK5 GTI stage1 poor mpg!
Post by: monte on October 22, 2011, 10:03:20 am
I don't know if it makes a huge difference, but what sort of fuel are u running? Do u use the same fuel all the time?
Title: Re: MK5 GTI stage1 poor mpg!
Post by: RedRobin on October 22, 2011, 12:18:53 pm

I don't know if it makes a huge difference, but what sort of fuel are u running? Do u use the same fuel all the time?


....I reckon that not running the VW recommended RON fuel it would effect performance rather than mpg. Most, if not all, the reputable tuners do their black art based on V-Power. Given the additives etc it simply doesn't make sense not to use V-Power - Not to do so is a false economy imo.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FRED_INK%2FV-Power_FuelPassion.jpg&hash=56af14bbbc04b08b24b0485632a6f24152417563)
Title: Re: MK5 GTI stage1 poor mpg!
Post by: alackofspeed on October 22, 2011, 02:58:42 pm
.... PCV revamp from BSH.....

I had a chat with a random GTI bloke I happened to buy some stuff from on ebay..... anyhow, in conversation he mentioned that his worst mod was fitting a BSH PCV revamp - he stated his MPG worsened massively with it fitted, so reverted back to a stock PCV.

Obviously second-hand information, that I can't substantiate, but an interesting coincidence.
Title: Re: MK5 GTI stage1 poor mpg!
Post by: baldwined30 on October 22, 2011, 04:42:06 pm
Sorry what is a PCV???
Title: Re: MK5 GTI stage1 poor mpg!
Post by: alexperkins on October 22, 2011, 04:42:43 pm
crankcase ventilation - takes oil vapour and puts it back into the throttle body so it can be burnt off
Title: Re: MK5 GTI stage1 poor mpg!
Post by: baldwined30 on October 22, 2011, 04:44:11 pm
Do I NEED one???
Title: Re: MK5 GTI stage1 poor mpg!
Post by: alexperkins on October 22, 2011, 04:45:11 pm
Well, they come fitted with one from factory

Personally, I wouldn't remove it and blank it off like some people do. It can increase crankcase pressure, and can reduce performance/mpg
Title: Re: MK5 GTI stage1 poor mpg!
Post by: baldwined30 on October 22, 2011, 04:46:44 pm
Mines running ok, ill leave it!!! Spent enough as it is!!!
Title: Re: MK5 GTI stage1 poor mpg!
Post by: alexperkins on October 22, 2011, 04:49:18 pm
On some it can cause problems - not everyone has had it perfect mate!

A new genuine PCV has revised parts and this is generally the best way to cure any PCV related issue.
Title: Re: MK5 GTI stage1 poor mpg!
Post by: alackofspeed on October 22, 2011, 04:55:05 pm
I can only relay the comments of the chap I spoke to. Just a curious coincidence I thought I'd mention.

As for MPG. My DSG BWA Stg 1, pretty reliably manages 24.5mpg on a cross-country run with 1200kg of trailer on the back, boot full of petrol and other associated track-day cack. If I saw that sort of figure at any other time, I'd wonder what was broken. Maybe I drive too slowly?