MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: seiko on October 21, 2011, 07:07:22 pm
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currently driving a manual golf gti for the last year with revo stage 1 and love it, but always wanted ed30, planning on getting one very soon, Has any one on here gone from a gti to a ed30 and wish the had not, due to more turbo lag or other reasons, thanks in advance
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If your car is running perfect wouldn't it work out cheaper to "upgrade" yours to Ed30 spec - colour code, new alloys, etc?
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Can't imagine its really worth it!!! Get an S3!
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did this mate a few years ago, although a mapped GTI is definately more punchy at the very bottom of the rev range although a mapped ED30 could never be considered laggy IMHO. I recently drove my mates stg2 GTI and was really impressed how grunty it was, I think if it was me it would be down to how much to change that mattered the most
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Can't imagine its really worth it!!! Get an S3!
oops did that too :smiley:
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Had both, 2 normal MK5 GTi's and always wanted the Eddy. Never looked back, glad i did and still am 3 years into Ed30 ownership later.
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Can't imagine its really worth it!!! Get an S3!
Found my mapped ed30 was more fun the my friends mapped S3
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Have to agree with a few posts on here, the S3 is a great car but its not worth £2-3k more than an edition 30, i had choice of both and test drove both and preferred both the look of the Ed30 and the interior, then again im not one for paying over the odds for a "Posh Golf" :wink:
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did this mate a few years ago, although a mapped GTI is definately more punchy at the very bottom of the rev range although a mapped ED30 could never be considered laggy IMHO. I recently drove my mates stg2 GTI and was really impressed how grunty it was, I think if it was me it would be down to how much to change that mattered the most
the ed 30 i am considering has also been mapped , I was just woried bout a lot more turbo lag, as i love the way my gti drives, do not feel any lag at all, my gti is a 2005 model and even though it has covered 99000 miles it drives like new, and uses no oil, engine is a 1, the ed30 i am looking at is 2007 model with much less milage, so thought it would be a good upgrade as i always wanted one, :smiley:
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Have to agree with a few posts on here, the S3 is a great car but its not worth £2-3k more than an edition 30, i had choice of both and test drove both and preferred both the look of the Ed30 and the interior, then again im not one for paying over the odds for a "Posh Golf" :wink:
try a stg 2+ S3 :smiley: at least we can get the power down lol
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s3 is great car but i need a 5 door, the ed 30 i have been looking at is priced at £11750, then i wil have to sel my gti for around the £6750 mark i guess, so £5000 upgrade lol, :scared:
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Nothing wrong with a 5 door S3 sportback :drool:
That's what I'm currently on the lookout for :party:
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Have to agree with a few posts on here, the S3 is a great car but its not worth £2-3k more than an edition 30, i had choice of both and test drove both and preferred both the look of the Ed30 and the interior, then again im not one for paying over the odds for a "Posh Golf" :wink:
try a stg 2+ S3 :smiley: at least we can get the power down lol
Once your off the line yes....but you know we will come buy very soon after :P
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Are u joking :confused:
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I can understand why you're looking to change as yours is approaching the 100k mark, is it worth £5k to change though as you'll be sat in an almost identical car and £5k lighter?
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Have to agree with a few posts on here, the S3 is a great car but its not worth £2-3k more than an edition 30, i had choice of both and test drove both and preferred both the look of the Ed30 and the interior, then again im not one for paying over the odds for a "Posh Golf" :wink:
try a stg 2+ S3 :smiley: at least we can get the power down lol
Once your off the line yes....but you know we will come buy very soon after :P
Are u joking :confused:
had a run up the strip against a stg2+ ED30 and that isn't how it worked out, and I've owned both, and I still have the S3 work it out :-)
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Have to agree with a few posts on here, the S3 is a great car but its not worth £2-3k more than an edition 30, i had choice of both and test drove both and preferred both the look of the Ed30 and the interior, then again im not one for paying over the odds for a "Posh Golf" :wink:
try a stg 2+ S3 :smiley: at least we can get the power down lol
Once your off the line yes....but you know we will come buy very soon after :P
Are u joking :confused:
had a run up the strip against a stg2+ ED30 and that isn't how it worked out, and I've owned both, and I still have the S3 work it out :-)
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I wonder why the OP doesn't take the less expensive path and do a ko4 upgrade... :confused:
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Have to agree with a few posts on here, the S3 is a great car but its not worth £2-3k more than an edition 30, i had choice of both and test drove both and preferred both the look of the Ed30 and the interior, then again im not one for paying over the odds for a "Posh Golf" :wink:
try a stg 2+ S3 :smiley: at least we can get the power down lol
Once your off the line yes....but you know we will come buy very soon after :P
Are u joking :confused:
had a run up the strip against a stg2+ ED30 and that isn't how it worked out, and I've owned both, and I still have the S3 work it out :-)
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as I was writing that I knew that was comin lol
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I wonder why the OP doesn't take the less expensive path and do a ko4 upgrade... :confused:
well did think about going ko4 upgrade, but guess that would cost fair bit, tbh exhaust, ko4 turbo, intake, intercooler, fuel pump, mapping, ect, and from what I have read the ed 30 has stronger internals and far more tuning potential, so to get my gti to the stage of a stage 1 ed30, would cost few grand, and the ed30 I am looking at has low mileage compared to mine
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I was thinking of doing that as well, but with the K04 upgrade, clutch, LSD and updated brakes it would cost me an extra 5-6k anyway. The S3 look a better option, and quattro as well, so no worries about getting the power down :driver:
Gazbut, is yours DSG or manual? If manual have u mashed the clutch yet?
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I was thinking of doing that as well, but with the K04 upgrade, clutch, LSD and updated brakes it would cost me an extra 5-6k anyway. The S3 look a better option, and quattro as well, so no worries about getting the power down :driver:
Gazbut, is yours DSG or manual? If manual have u mashed the clutch yet?
the clutch lasted ok, but stg2+ is askin a bit much so have a sach fitted :happy2:
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Did u keep the original setup with a standard DMFW and uprated the rest?
That's why I'm concerned and thinking about the DSG :confused:
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put a new dmfw in with uprated plate and cover :happy2:
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A new standard DMFW? :happy2:
How many miles did the original clutch last u at stage 2+ and how long have u driven with the new setup? :party:
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dual mass fly wheel, the original clutch did well as the car was mapped from about 1k and lasted about 25k, so the latest set up has been on 10k or so
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Have to agree with a few posts on here, the S3 is a great car but its not worth £2-3k more than an edition 30, i had choice of both and test drove both and preferred both the look of the Ed30 and the interior, then again im not one for paying over the odds for a "Posh Golf" :wink:
try a stg 2+ S3 :smiley: at least we can get the power down lol
true, but i was under impression a stg 2+ ED30 with an LSD was quicker than an Stg2+ S3 (certainly in the dry, as weighs less)
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So you took out the original DMFW and replaced it with the same but new (how much)?
Do you find the current setup heavier?
Stage 2+ S3 0-60 times must be sub 5seconds :pomppomp:
I can't wait to get mine.
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There is no way that a LSD is a replacement for Quattro!!!
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There is no way that a LSD is a replacement for Quattro!!!
no, but am sure many peoples stage 2+ eddies have run sub 5 seconds to 60 as results posted show...
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In perfect weather conditions there's probably not much in it, how often do we get that in the uk :laugh:
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The only ED30 I've seen run sub 5 seconds was Neil's totally stripped out 1 with every mod under the sun and a LSD as well, and it ran a 4.92 at Inters this year. Put all his internals back in his car and I reckon it would have been just over 5 sec's
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Jonnys, hurdys, neilms, sunglassesron are a few I know of who have gone sub 5. Also neils was at bruntigthorpe which has a road surface llike a pavement. Also bear in mind whilst Neil car is ststripped, it also has a full road cage wwhich will cancel oout alot of the weight loss
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sure I ran a 5.1 with big fat wheels and a goosed clutch lol, I've never got involved in this debate before must have the buggers on me, there both fine cars, pay your money and make your choice :happy2:
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Sy, u butt out with your pavement talk :signLOL:
Just cause u beat me by 100000000000th of a second :booty:
You made my mind up about going Quattro, that F%^*# non traction surface did my head in!!!! :fighting:
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Sy, u butt out with your pavement talk :signLOL:
Just cause u beat me by 100000000000th of a second :booty:
You made my mind up about going Quattro, that F%^*# non traction surface did my head in!!!! :fighting:
Did I mention its only a 1.4 :P
S3 is for winners though, although on a track id rather a fwd with lsd than haldex/quattro. But for the 1/4 mile and crap weather honing add is the future
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I think the DSG S3has launch control as well??
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i woud have gone for an S3 but needed 5 drs and could not afford a sportback.
when my car went into a very well respected tuner for a sachs and lsd i spoke to them about the s3 over the phone and the response was "yeah, but they are slower though aren't they" - this could of course refer to the 400bhp+ ED30 he was running and not a mere stg 2+.
Another well respected tuner has an R32 and he agreed that my ED30 was quicker, less transmission losses, weighs less. Anyhow, Gaz has owned both so he is the best qualified to comment. Gaz - will you be at Awesome anytime soon so we can carry on the debate? :drinking:
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not sure when the next visit to Awesome will be, but its not all about bhp and 1/4 mile times its everyday performance for me. The stg2+ Ed30 is a great car but would spin up all the time which might be what some people like, where the S3 just grips and goes and makes no fuss. IIRC the S3 weighs 75kg more which is like havin your mate in the car????
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not sure when the next visit to Awesome will be, but its not all about bhp and 1/4 mile times its everyday performance for me. The stg2+ Ed30 is a great car but would spin up all the time which might be what some people like, where the S3 just grips and goes and makes no fuss. IIRC the S3 weighs 75kg more which is like havin your mate in the car????
They do spin and it is annoying, you feel the real power when first set off, you will never get that in an ED30! Trust me i know!!
Gaz, was your S3 in AMD the other day??
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Back on topic :wink:
If your still loving the Golf and there arent any other motors that take your fancy then get the ED30.
Prices have dropped a bit last few months, so try and get a nicely specced one, so that you have a few more toys to play with (make the upgrade seem more worthwhile) Interior is definitely a nicer place to be than std car and although it doesnt really get going until 4000rpm it isnt really a problem. Just makes it easier to drive daily and then means you can get the power down a little easier when you do want to push on. Im perfectly happy with mine as std so cant really imagine that you would get bored of a Stage 1 unless you are prone to the odd drag race.
Extra £5k doesnt seem bad for a younger, more powerful, better specced car, with less miles and better residuals. Get it bought! :happy2:
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not sure when the next visit to Awesome will be, but its not all about bhp and 1/4 mile times its everyday performance for me. The stg2+ Ed30 is a great car but would spin up all the time which might be what some people like, where the S3 just grips and goes and makes no fuss. IIRC the S3 weighs 75kg more which is like havin your mate in the car????
They do spin and it is annoying, you feel the real power when first set off, you will never get that in an ED30! Trust me i know!!
Gaz, was your S3 in AMD the other day??
No, long way from me
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not sure when the next visit to Awesome will be, but its not all about bhp and 1/4 mile times its everyday performance for me. The stg2+ Ed30 is a great car but would spin up all the time which might be what some people like, where the S3 just grips and goes and makes no fuss. IIRC the S3 weighs 75kg more which is like havin your mate in the car????
They do spin and it is annoying, you feel the real power when first set off, you will never get that in an ED30! Trust me i know!!
Gaz, was your S3 in AMD the other day??
No, long way from me
Just wondering as there was an Ibis S3 in there with a GAS number plate! had a lot of work i think
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Back on topic :wink:
If your still loving the Golf and there arent any other motors that take your fancy then get the ED30.
Prices have dropped a bit last few months, so try and get a nicely specced one, so that you have a few more toys to play with (make the upgrade seem more worthwhile) Interior is definitely a nicer place to be than std car and although it doesnt really get going until 4000rpm it isnt really a problem. Just makes it easier to drive daily and then means you can get the power down a little easier when you do want to push on. Im perfectly happy with mine as std so cant really imagine that you would get bored of a Stage 1 unless you are prone to the odd drag race.
Extra £5k doesnt seem bad for a younger, more powerful, better specced car, with less miles and better residuals. Get it bought! :happy2:
thanks leonard, going to look at this one tomorow, same colour as mine and 5 door only thing it does not have is the rear parking assist, like that on mine :smiley:, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300602871843?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
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thanks leonard, going to look at this one tomorow, same colour as mine and 5 door only thing it does not have is the rear parking assist, like that on mine :smiley:, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300602871843?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Looks like it's now sold as it says "This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available."
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thanks leonard, going to look at this one tomorow, same colour as mine and 5 door only thing it does not have is the rear parking assist, like that on mine :smiley:, http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300602871843?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
Looks like it's now sold as it says "This listing was ended by the seller because the item is no longer available."
well viewed and test drove the car and negotiated a fair price and bought it, drove 250 miles home, and I must say I love it, my golf gti stage 1 is a little belter, but the ed30 stage 1, pulls harder and faster as I hoped it would, the turbo lag I was worried about is not really noticeable, but my gti does have little more low down grunt, just wish my new ed 30 had the same extras my gti has lol, guess we cant have it al, the ed30 was the colour I wanted and a five door manual, and had the sage 1 revo, well pleased. :smiley: now have to sel my gti :scared:
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Nice one mate, do love the grey ED30 :happy2: