MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: billy187 on October 25, 2011, 05:14:01 pm

Title: Easy way of finding out if my car has been mapped?
Post by: billy187 on October 25, 2011, 05:14:01 pm

Had my GTI a while now and it seems to go very well, and there is a noticeable difference between this and a mates GTI.

Mods wise it is standard.

Is there any way of being able to tell if it has been mapped?

Title: Re: Easy way of finding out if my car has been mapped?
Post by: RENNTAG on October 25, 2011, 05:16:02 pm

Rolling road. See what power its making  :happy2:

Title: Re: Easy way of finding out if my car has been mapped?
Post by: bacillus on October 25, 2011, 05:17:39 pm

Either get the car on a dyno or log the boost using vcds. In both instances the values will be higher than standard if mapped.

Title: Re: Easy way of finding out if my car has been mapped?
Post by: baldwined30 on October 25, 2011, 06:08:14 pm

Dont ask just enjoy!!

Title: Re: Easy way of finding out if my car has been mapped?
Post by: stealthwolf on October 25, 2011, 07:05:20 pm

He can't enjoy if his car's been remapped and his insurance company doesn't know!

Title: Re: Easy way of finding out if my car has been mapped?
Post by: R-tech-Nick on October 25, 2011, 08:09:38 pm

Quote from: billy187 on October 25, 2011, 05:14:01 pm

Had my GTI a couple of months now and dont know much about its history but it seems to go very well, and there is a noticeable difference between this and a mates GTI.

Mods wise it is standard.

Is there any way of being able to tell if it has been mapped?

rolling road and logging session :happy2:  If your local pop in and I will put it on the dyno for you, just bring some hobnobs with you.. :happy2:

Title: Re: Easy way of finding out if my car has been mapped?
Post by: Jussa on October 25, 2011, 08:43:08 pm

The question is if u buy a car from somebody and they dont declare it's been mapped and u find out afterwards, what can u do?   :confused:

Title: Re: Easy way of finding out if my car has been mapped?
Post by: Top Cat on October 25, 2011, 08:52:14 pm

Quote from: Jussa on October 25, 2011, 08:43:08 pm

The question is if u buy a car from somebody and they dont declare it's been mapped and u find out afterwards, what can u do?   :confused:

Ignorance is no defense in the court of law or indeed if it means insurance companies paying out.

Title: Re: Easy way of finding out if my car has been mapped?
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on October 25, 2011, 08:55:06 pm

Quote from: Jussa on October 25, 2011, 08:43:08 pm

The question is if u buy a car from somebody and they dont declare it's been mapped and u find out afterwards, what can u do?   :confused:

Exactly mate.. Would love to know how anyone would stand with this (if an insurance company actually went to the trouble of somehow checking that is)?

Say customer X is a 55 year old women, who has just bought herself a used 6 year old Golf GTI from her local used car dealer. The car has had 6 previous owners and as far as the local car garage is concerned is standard, besides which, customer X wouldn't know what a remap was if it slapped her in the face. She then writes her car off by running in the back of another car and her insurance company assess her car and discovers that it was remapped 3 years ago..
Should they pay out?

I'm not saying that peeps who have modded their car should not declare it to their insurance company, as that is just daft. But if you have bought a car of any make and age, should you then take it to your local garage to get them to give it a full diagnostic check, followed by checking every component to make sure they are all OEM???

Title: Re: Easy way of finding out if my car has been mapped?
Post by: winrya on October 25, 2011, 09:03:01 pm

I read a stat a few months back that not one insurance payout has been rejected in the uk due to a discovered remap!

Title: Re: Easy way of finding out if my car has been mapped?
Post by: Sunglasses Ron on October 25, 2011, 09:25:04 pm

Quote from: winrya on October 25, 2011, 09:03:01 pm

I read a stat a few months back that not one insurance payout has been rejected in the uk due to a discovered remap!

Can quite believe it too mate..

Let's not kid ourselves, most on this forums aren't daft enough to think it's ok to drive around in heavily modded cars with the attitude that "it'll be alright" ... But to start going down the path of having to check whether the 2nd hand car you have just bought has been previously mapped just in case your insurance company could refuse to payout, is a bit far fetched IMO. After all, most of the general public wouldn't know what an ECU was, let along a software remap..  :rolleye:

Title: Re: Easy way of finding out if my car has been mapped?
Post by: billy187 on October 25, 2011, 10:21:46 pm

Thanks guys.

Cheers for the offer Nick, Im in Manchester so your abit of a mission away.

Title: Re: Easy way of finding out if my car has been mapped?
Post by: markc on October 26, 2011, 08:57:32 am

Quote from: winrya on October 25, 2011, 09:03:01 pm

I read a stat a few months back that not one insurance payout has been rejected in the uk due to a discovered remap!

Is that right ? I am really surprised to hear this.  Not long ago I heared about a chap who had a crash in a previously mapped 2.0 A3 TFSI.  Even though the car had a stock map, the flash counter showed multiple counts and the Insurance company were trying to escape the claim.  He was paid out in the end as the Standard map 'was' on at the time of the accident.

Title: Re: Easy way of finding out if my car has been mapped?
Post by: R-tech-Nick on October 26, 2011, 09:56:28 am

Quote from: billy187 on October 25, 2011, 10:21:46 pm

Thanks guys.

Cheers for the offer Nick, Im in Manchester so your abit of a mission away.

Might be worth a visit to Awesome GTI who are on your door step? :driver:

http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/page.php?jssCart=7ba324c3e10d2b7c736aab8e99fa3d23&xPage=rollingroad.html

Nick

 

Title: Re: Easy way of finding out if my car has been mapped?
Post by: rob172cup on October 26, 2011, 12:40:57 pm

Does anyone know how much difference getting the car mapped makes to insurance? Roughly ?

Title: Re: Easy way of finding out if my car has been mapped?
Post by: gulfstream11 on October 26, 2011, 12:48:46 pm

Would the previous owner,however far back,leave the map on?..My nephew removed it from his Polo GTI before sale and if mine was,nt stolen it was a 10 second job to remove the map.

Title: Re: Easy way of finding out if my car has been mapped?
Post by: stealthwolf on October 26, 2011, 04:26:44 pm

I think sky insurance gave me an extra premium of £50 for stage 1, but they're mod friendly.