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General => Random Chat => Topic started by: stealthwolf on November 04, 2011, 11:29:57 pm

Title: SDS drills
Post by: stealthwolf on November 04, 2011, 11:29:57 pm
Stupid question but can I use an SDS drill for drilling into wood etc? I know they're designed to drill into masonry. Current drill is broken after 20 years of service. I've been advised to go for an SDS one.
Title: Re: SDS drills
Post by: andrewparker on November 05, 2011, 07:06:02 am
No, get a good combi drill. I have a Makita one which is excellent.
Title: Re: SDS drills
Post by: JPC on November 05, 2011, 08:32:47 am
As above. Screwfix were doing the Makita bhp451 I think? For 199 recently. That's a really really good price for a £400 drill. I got one 3 months ago and its awesome!

An sds drill would be useful if you were drilling right thru a wall with like 250ml long drill bit.

That Makita of mine flys thru wall too though
Title: Re: SDS drills
Post by: andrewparker on November 05, 2011, 08:51:20 am
As above. Screwfix were doing the Makita bhp451 I think? For 199 recently. That's a really really good price for a £400 drill. I got one 3 months ago and its awesome!

An sds drill would be useful if you were drilling right thru a wall with like 250ml long drill bit.

That Makita of mine flys thru wall too though

Mine is still going strong after 4 years. I got it for a similar price but it came in a case with three batteries. They can run down pretty quickly with intensive use, though they do charge quickly. Haven't found a surface yet that it couldn't tackle.
Title: Re: SDS drills
Post by: stealthwolf on November 05, 2011, 09:48:50 am
Cool. TBH I need to do some wall drilling. Not much but it's a garage wall. Wanted to do it today hence heading to b&q.

Have masonry drill bits too.
Title: Re: SDS drills
Post by: andrewparker on November 05, 2011, 09:56:50 am
Seriously, a good combi drill will handle any masonry.
Title: Re: SDS drills
Post by: Eddie-NL on November 05, 2011, 10:13:42 am
you can if you use an sds+ adaptor with 13mm chuck

My Bosch Sds+ has quick change chucks :laugh:
Title: Re: SDS drills
Post by: RobH on November 05, 2011, 10:32:08 am
Combi drills for drilling into masonary doent make me laugh.

An sds drill with a setting for normal drilling is totaly fine and are more powerfull than a combi.

This drill would be fine for anything round the house you would just need a 13mm chuck for the wood bits.

http://www.screwfix.com/p/makita-hr2470-2-2kg-sds-plus-drill-240v/99908

http://www.screwfix.com/p/makita-keyless-chuck-13mm/38973

That sds would walk all over any combi in any situation aslong as you have mains there thats the only downside.
Title: Re: SDS drills
Post by: stealthwolf on November 05, 2011, 11:34:52 am
I was looking at the DeWalt D25013K

clicky (http://m.diy.com/mt/www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=11537597&fh_location=//catalog01/en_GB/categories%3C%7B9372015%7D/categories%3C%7B9372047%7D/categories%3C%7B9372203%7D/categories%3C%7B9392094%7D/specificationsProductType=corded/specificationsSpecificProductType=sds_hammer_drills&un_jtt_redirect)

And one of these:

clicky (http://www.wickes.co.uk/invt/215712)

don't trust keyless chucks to be strong enough.

Any remarks on the dewalt?
Title: Re: SDS drills
Post by: RobH on November 05, 2011, 11:54:17 am
Dewalt has been going downhill for a while now regarding drills makita and milwaukee are better and thats what id go with.

Keyless chucks are good but if your unsure then get a key chuck personaly i just couldnt be bothered faffing about with one i have never had a problem with the makita keyless chucks tbh.
Title: Re: SDS drills
Post by: stealthwolf on November 05, 2011, 12:14:41 pm
I always though dewalt were the "pro" version of B&D, like the difference in blue and green Bosch tools?

Will go for the Makita then.
Title: Re: SDS drills
Post by: RobH on November 05, 2011, 02:51:31 pm
I always though dewalt were the "pro" version of B&D, like the difference in blue and green Bosch tools?

Will go for the Makita then.

They are but their pro version compared to makita or milwaukee is inferior these days.
Title: Re: SDS drills
Post by: candy turbo on November 05, 2011, 05:57:17 pm
if using mains any sds is pretty much the same , cordless for the money makita are good but not the best the batteries have problems and the gear s are not too good , if you want the best cordless drills on the market look at panasonic
Title: Re: SDS drills
Post by: stealthwolf on November 05, 2011, 06:35:01 pm
I'm not a huge fan of cordless drills.

Either way, problem solved - borrowed my grandad's corded combi and he's also given me an 18V cordless one he's had laying around. Means I can delay the need for an SDS/combi for now. Given that I have a cordless, I reckon SDS should be able to tackle the heavy duty stuff.
Title: Re: SDS drills
Post by: Eddie-NL on November 06, 2011, 12:10:02 am
I always though dewalt were the "pro" version of B&D, like the difference in blue and green Bosch tools?

Will go for the Makita then.

They are but their pro version compared to makita or milwaukee is inferior these days.

I find it depends on what tool you buy
Title: Re: SDS drills
Post by: damoegan on November 06, 2011, 06:04:59 pm
if using mains any sds is pretty much the same , cordless for the money makita are good but not the best the batteries have problems and the gear s are not too good , if you want the best cordless drills on the market look at panasonic

I've just killed the clutch set on the 18v cordless Makita at work last week and that was only driving screws onto wood (proper wood screws and also rilot drilled first)  :fighting: