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Title: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: dubwear on November 07, 2011, 08:16:08 am
Hi all

I have recently bought an ed30 dsg golf its totally standard with no engine mods,
I filled it up about 10 days ago and she is now empty....i have only done 240 miles
On a full tank i must be honest i think thats crap!

I dont drive it hard, just the odd now and again when overtaking.

Can anyone tell me what they get to a full tank?

Sorry if this is a stupid question.

Mart
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: baldwined30 on November 07, 2011, 08:19:31 am
Normally about 320 and that's a stage 2+
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: dubwear on November 07, 2011, 09:01:14 am
thanks for the reply

is that mainly motorway driving? and is yours dsg?

i must have a problem.......
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: gtipirelli on November 07, 2011, 09:04:53 am
Can you give us a bit more detail about the sort of journeys you do. If you are mainly city driving this is normal. If motorway driving then this is low. I get mid 30's mainly motorway driving
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: dubwear on November 07, 2011, 09:14:06 am
Hi its abit of both really,
i have a short journey to work around 3 miles so im sure that doesnt help, but apart from that the only other journeys i do are about 25-35 each way.

ithought i weould of got around 300 to a tank, was going to remap it but not sure now as that will use even more fuel.
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: Tamiyoman on November 07, 2011, 09:16:15 am
Had my Ed30 3 weeks now and it managed 310 miles on a tank full of Momentum 99, that was one journey of 165 miles and the rest was 2-3 mile journeys.
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: rich83 on November 07, 2011, 09:16:31 am
A 3 mile journey will return rubbish MPG. If I pop to the shops in my car it will do about 10-15MPG
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: Saint Steve on November 07, 2011, 11:42:15 am
99 octane?
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: will130787 on November 07, 2011, 12:00:25 pm
99 octane?


 :happy2: Tesco 99 is the way forward!
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: mrtrendvampire on November 07, 2011, 12:27:27 pm
try a lil v power, when i bought the car it was doin rubbish on fuel. i went out booted it abit in sports put a lil v power in and 40mpg on the A12 the other day!!!!

i know my engine is different, but try it!
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: dubwear on November 07, 2011, 12:53:47 pm
I used super unleaded thanks for the replies guys
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: AnSGTI on November 07, 2011, 01:16:11 pm
That's shocking mate, you must be driving the tits off it.

Mine is completely standard, I average 35 - 39mpgs but usually see 400miles froma tank before the light comes on. With the temperature drop I'm not expecting to see more than 360ish - I do give it some beans too. I usually (from brim fill) see around 230 - 250 miles from the top of the tank alone. Short journeys, start stop traffic will of course effect this. My daily commute is 21 miles and I average 50mph on A roads.
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: dubwear on November 07, 2011, 01:47:59 pm
That's the thing I have been driving it's sensibly almost all the time with the odd blat, it's really odd as the Audi s3 I had was running around 280bhp and that was returning 300 easy to a full tank.

I can't get my head round it, haven't even been using sport, mainly drive or manual
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: ktlstar on November 07, 2011, 02:02:27 pm
i dont see over 30mpg in my ED30. Without booting it either.
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: billy187 on November 07, 2011, 02:06:14 pm
I think it will be pretty normal for these cars if its just very small 2-3 mile journeys.

I get the same driving locally doing small journeys - around 250miles to the tank which i thought was a joke coming from a 450bhp Pulsar GTIR that did the same.
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: Hurdy on November 07, 2011, 02:13:00 pm
At stage 2+ I never got much more than 260 miles to a tank. The best mileage I ever got was 105, but the reason I say it was the best is because it was at the Nurburgring :grin:

Stock you should be getting over 300 miles from a tank easily. :scared:
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: seiko on November 07, 2011, 04:19:44 pm
i get 300 to a fill, mixed driving and revo stge 1 :smiley:
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: Tamiyoman on November 07, 2011, 04:24:29 pm
A 3 mile journey will return rubbish MPG. If I pop to the shops in my car it will do about 10-15MPG

Yup I know that, but my car only gets used for 4 x 2-3 mile journeys per week and it gets treated to a 330 mile round trip once every 2 months to visit family, otherwise it sits on the drive getting cleaned twice per week.

Yes tesco momentum 99 octane is the way forward for me, i shop at Tesco and get 5p off per litre voucher every 2 weeks i shop, although I only fill up once per month max anyway lol.

I always used to use Shell V power 98 on my previous cars but as the nearest shell garage is a 35 mile round trip i dont bother these days  :surprised:
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: Steve Baker on November 07, 2011, 06:10:18 pm
If you use the instantanious fuel consumption part of the computer you will see how your driving style effects consumption.........  On a dual carriageway/motorway at steady 65-70 mph  will return comfortably 34-35mpg  but st 80mph i am lucky to see 30mpg ! Overall 32mpg average is quite usual for me  :happy2:
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: parks on November 07, 2011, 06:18:48 pm
If you use the instantanious fuel consumption part of the computer you will see how your driving style effects consumption.........  On a dual carriageway/motorway at steady 65-70 mph  will return comfortably 34-35mpg  but st 80mph i am lucky to see 30mpg ! Overall 32mpg average is quite usual for me  :happy2:

How can Vw quote 41mpg for extra urban then? I can't get Near 40 on a motorway.
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: Steve Baker on November 07, 2011, 06:24:17 pm
If you use the instantanious fuel consumption part of the computer you will see how your driving style effects consumption.........  On a dual carriageway/motorway at steady 65-70 mph  will return comfortably 34-35mpg  but st 80mph i am lucky to see 30mpg ! Overall 32mpg average is quite usual for me  :happy2:

How can Vw quote 41mpg for extra urban then? I can't get Near 40 on a motorway.

I personally don't know. The combined figure quoted  ' 35.8' is closer to reality; I'm sure if you drive like miss daisy anything is possible.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: parks on November 07, 2011, 06:29:08 pm
Down hill yes
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: Horatio on November 07, 2011, 06:32:23 pm
Hi all

I have recently bought an ed30 dsg golf its totally standard with no engine mods,
I filled it up about 10 days ago and she is now empty....i have only done 240 miles
On a full tank i must be honest i think thats crap!

I dont drive it hard, just the odd now and again when overtaking.

Can anyone tell me what they get to a full tank?

Sorry if this is a stupid question.

Mart

Same here. When I first got the Edition30, I was driving it everyday and covered about 1200 :driver: miles in the first week! I was fuelling with VPower, filled up to the top. The past few weeks I havent been working due to contract ending and fook all jobs out there, and doing shopping runs and short journeys really saps the MPG. Ive been using BPUltimate the last few weeks as its the closest petrol station. I put in £30 quid on Weds and only 130 miles returned. This is with moderate driving.   :nerd:
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: baldwined30 on November 07, 2011, 09:54:35 pm
try a lil v power, when i bought the car it was doin rubbish on fuel. i went out booted it abit in sports put a lil v power in and 40mpg on the A12 the other day!!!!

i know my engine is different, but try it!

A12? where you based?
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: tuglet on November 07, 2011, 10:15:46 pm
I'm getting 23mpg from my DSG GTI but I do about 90% very short runs; my commute is less than 2 miles each way. I get almost exactly 240 miles from 50 litres of Tesco Momentum99. On a run I can get 36mpg.
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: kiddfrost on November 07, 2011, 10:25:03 pm
I used to have a gti at 2+ and caned it most of the time. I was achieving an average of 22 23mpg.  When driven normally I’d get mpg into the 30’s without even trying.

My ed30 however is a different story. If I cane it like I did the gti you can almost see that fuel gauge go down which I know is understandable with the additional power.  Even when stock the ed30 mpg wasn’t great and I was only getting 27mpg on a 100mile run doing about 70 – 80mph. Once mapped it was a little better but I still struggle to get 29-30 mpg when driving like a granny.

I think there is something wrong with mine but can’t figure out what or where to start looking. Have had new plugs, oil change etc. Does anyone know if there is something in VCDS you can check to see if its running in FSI mode?
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: AlanEdition30 on November 07, 2011, 10:37:26 pm
I get 350 miles to a tank on mine nearly eveytime and thats with 50 miles till empty usually being displayed. 380- 400 is possible if i run the tank almost dry, but i never like to run it too empty  :ashamed:

The car is always ran on V-power and is revo stage one with an ITG intake. To get less than 300 miles to a tank you must be giving the car a good thrash rather consistently  :driver:

I will drive the car hard round some good bends, or to get out of a very busy junction etc, but to thrash it on every journey takes commitment  :congrats:
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: robdf2 on November 07, 2011, 11:55:55 pm
i do a 3 mile journey to work every day then have a long trip every weekend usually doing a whole tank of fuel.
i have had a few issues with timing being out and i used to average between 280 to 290 miles a tank.
my timing has been sorted and the first tank i got 370 , the second 360 and this one about 360 again and thats not hanging around either.

new coils and plugs will make a big difference.
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: dubwear on November 08, 2011, 08:13:26 am
Thanks for all the replies, im just going to fill it up now and try a different fuel,

Maybe get the coils checked but im sure these have been done under warrrenty not to long ago.

Ta mart
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: dubwear on November 08, 2011, 08:56:50 am
Just filled her up to the brim costing £80
It says on the computer I should get 310 miles to the tank
Guess I will have to just wait and see.....
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: markevo6 on November 08, 2011, 09:26:27 am


I'm so glad its not just me thinking the same about mpg on a Gti with Dsg - mine is bog standard.

I have averaged 26mpg over 12 months of various driving - short / long / quick / cruise etc etc and cant seem to get it any higher unless crusing on the motorway @ 70mph a for an hour etc .

Coil packs & plugs changed , recent service etc , dsg serviced in fact everything done that needs to be done . Car has done 46k .

I was expecting more tbh but I just assumed that was the best it was going to be , until reading this post .

 :driver:
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: Saint Steve on November 08, 2011, 05:07:57 pm
If youve been putting 95 octane, then you should see a raise of about 2-3 mpg. If you drive sensibly of course :wink:
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: Top Cat on November 08, 2011, 07:31:53 pm
Ok i will be the one to ask then.  DSG, are you sure your not putting it straight into S-mode.  :driver:
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: dubwear on November 08, 2011, 08:27:12 pm
100% hadly used sport at all, as i said mainly just use D and manual.....

If i was using sport all the time i would expect crap fuel econamy.....but i really have been driving it sensibly
With the odd blatt, just had the dsg oil change done on sat and it had the coils changed before i bought it.

Going to try vagcom and see what the maf sensor is doing.
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: rich83 on November 08, 2011, 09:38:40 pm
Unless your experiencing massive performance loss, I doubt it's the MAF!
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: Hedge on November 08, 2011, 10:10:38 pm
Unplug it and go for a drive. If it's fubar the car will run fine. Plug it back in and if your problems start you know.

You will need VCDS to clear your engine light but it wont damage the car.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: scotta on November 08, 2011, 10:37:59 pm
I went from my Manual Edition 30 to an A3 2.0T S-tronic (DSG). The A3 gets comfortably 4-5 mpg less than i could get with the eddy. Same roads same times same style of driving.

Managed a highly impressive 18 mpg on the way home the other week - 13 mile commute followed by a good shoeing up the back road!

Best i seen with the eddy was 38 mpg on the way to work in the morning - car was running on fumes and i didnt have time to fill up so was driving in super eco mode. Best ive ever managed in the A3 has been 33mpg.

Bottom line - DSG = Muches more fuel!
Title: Re: Edition 30 dsg fuel consumption?
Post by: AndyED30 on November 11, 2011, 08:27:46 pm
I've been driving up the M1 every day for work, covering approx. 64 miles per day. Due to the road works for width improvements between Junc10 & Junc14-ish you can really got fast. I've managed to get 527 miles out of one tank from a standard manuel ED30...................yes 527!!!

That's doing 50mph through the road works and keeping to the speed limits until I hit the M1 which I live near. One tank can last 8 days for purely work and back journeys.

Safe to say I put my foot down when I get the chance to balance out the karma ;-)