MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
Post by: ED30_jase on November 07, 2011, 09:23:15 pm: Basically just curious as to which has the better engine....my ED30 the 35 or the R?

I know there's maybe a lot more too it than a quick answer but people's opinions are welcome!

Jase
Title: Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
Post by: MAT ED30 on November 07, 2011, 09:27:24 pm: same engine
Title: Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
Post by: baldwined30 on November 07, 2011, 09:53:18 pm: What intercooler does the 35 and the R have?
Title: Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
Post by: bacillus on November 07, 2011, 11:17:17 pm: I suspect the R will have the S3 IC and the ed35 the standard gti one.
Title: Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
Post by: sub39h on November 07, 2011, 11:23:57 pm: strengthened internals on the S3/TT-S/Golf .:R engines too
Title: Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
Post by: RobH on November 07, 2011, 11:31:12 pm: Quote from: sub39h on November 07, 2011, 11:23:57 pm
strengthened internals on the S3/TT-S/Golf .:R engines too

Im 99% sure the internals are strethened on the ed30 engine aswell :wink:
Title: Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
Post by: bacillus on November 07, 2011, 11:33:48 pm: Quote from: RobH on November 07, 2011, 11:31:12 pm
Quote from: sub39h on November 07, 2011, 11:23:57 pm
strengthened internals on the S3/TT-S/Golf .:R engines too

Im 99% sure the internals are strethened on the ed30 engine aswell :wink:

They are...
Title: Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
Post by: Tamiyoman on November 08, 2011, 04:55:40 pm: So same engine, just poss diff intercooler on the R model then, nice that they know a good unit when they have one and re-use it :grin:
Title: Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
Post by: E30Dom on November 08, 2011, 05:13:05 pm: So stage 4 = 586bhp is possible !?! :surprised:
Title: Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
Post by: baldwined30 on November 08, 2011, 07:27:42 pm: Quote from: E30Dom on November 08, 2011, 05:13:05 pm
So stage 4 = 586bhp is possible !?! :surprised:
Seems that way!! More than just a few bolt ons!!
Title: Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
Post by: GLIDN on November 10, 2011, 11:48:18 pm: as stated above.

In all honesty I would rather mk6 TSI GTI engine. seeing TSI engine with APR K04 kit already makes 366WHP. no internal change. New Stage 3 kit is around 450HP. Stage 4? well will have to wait and see.

The TSI overall seems a better engine for maintenance and no stupid camshaft bucket and fuel pump crap issue. I drive TFSI engine, so know these stupid issue's all to well.
Title: Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on November 11, 2011, 08:12:51 am: Surely the "R" engine would have EVEN STRONGER internals than the ED30? :innocent:
Title: Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
Post by: bacillus on November 11, 2011, 08:18:40 am: Quote from: GrayMK5GTI on November 11, 2011, 08:12:51 am
Surely the "R" engine would have EVEN STRONGER internals than the ED30? :innocent:

Why if it's effectively the same engine?? :confused:
Title: Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on November 11, 2011, 10:39:19 pm: To cope with the extra 30bhp (ish) they gave it. Vw like headroom (along with other manufacturers) so they will always leave so many % headroom. They will have increased the strength of the engine to match the headroom of the ED30
Title: Re: Edition30/35 or R? Which is the better engine?
Post by: Mk5 GTian on November 12, 2011, 03:38:39 am: VW chose the EA113 over the EA888 for the Ed35 for a reason! Brilliant unit. Check out the Car magazine Sports Car of the Year feature in which the Ed35 beats the 1series M, 370Z, Mini coupe JCW, RS3, DS3 & comes joint second with the Megane Trophy, losing out only to the Cayman R.

Which you think is the best unit depends on whether you want 2 or 4wd. Personally it would be the Ed35 for me. I love the unit in my Mk5, and will skip the standard Mk6 based on a recent test drive which confirmed what Car says in this article; "using the EA113 unit........the rawer character so far missing from the MK6 GTi is back"