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Title: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Johnny_tro on November 13, 2011, 09:13:33 pm
Hello everyone, my son wants a remote controlled helicoptor for Xmas....

Now I have been looking about but nothing seems to jump out at me. Not wanting a £500 petrol thing, simple, but good kids one.

Does anyone have experience of one? recomend one?
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: rich83 on November 13, 2011, 09:14:20 pm
How old is he?
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Johnny_tro on November 13, 2011, 09:15:49 pm
10, going on 21

Mrs got him this £35 one from Toys R Us, it has to go back it looks s**t!!

No gadgets - firing rockets (they will get lost in 2 mins anyway) or onboard cameras etc.
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Beddie on November 13, 2011, 09:16:24 pm
I've got a 4 channel electric one, it's best indoors but can be flown outdoor when there is no wind, £95 so cheap enough to see if he likes it etc..

I mainly use mine for annoying the cat  :happy2:

This is mine http://www.rcmods.co.uk/esky-honeybee-v2-24g-p-6766.html
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Johnny_tro on November 13, 2011, 09:24:10 pm
I know its best to get a 4 channel.....

Looking at that link buddy.....the blades - they are standard, does it have this stabblising feature? like the blades on this one. As I don't get the different between the two types of rotas?

http://www.rcmods.co.uk/73561b-channel-rc-helicopter-p-7562.html

Yours is classed as a beginners outdoor model?
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Beddie on November 13, 2011, 09:32:52 pm
It is gyro stabilised to some degree but not to the same extent as the smaller models with the contra rotating blades, makes it slightly more challenging to fly but much more like the proper 6 channel ones, can be flown outdoor too and the training rig is a nice feature too  :happy2:
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Johnny_tro on November 13, 2011, 09:58:07 pm
Just watched youtube clip.......

Its a good size, looks powerfull as well..........I know there not easy, but how long did it take you to get into a decent hover? only concern is him writting it off lol

1) go for your one

or

2) play safe with the: http://www.rcmods.co.uk/efly-msp190-mini-channel-rc-helicopter-24g-p-7647.html

Your (in low conditions) can be used outdoors too (bonus) mini can't
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Johnny_tro on November 13, 2011, 09:58:58 pm
 :signLOL: already found two link to modding them.......POWER POWER POWER lol
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: rich83 on November 13, 2011, 10:01:40 pm
Beddie that E-SKY Honeybee  looks brilliant. Is it hard to fly?
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Beddie on November 13, 2011, 10:05:50 pm
:signLOL: already found two link to modding them.......POWER POWER POWER lol
Yeah you can mod them up quite a bit with more powerful motors and alloy rotor heads etc  :signLOL:

The one you linked will have the same flight characteristics of the bigger version as its still a single rotor design but is less powerful and physically smaller so things should happen less quickly, well hopefully...  :grin:

Spares availability if (when) he crashes are good though and relatively cheap and it's a good way to get into RC choppers before going up to collective pitch stuff and then being able to do loops and inverted flight!  :scared:
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Johnny_tro on November 13, 2011, 10:09:41 pm
It does look good.....especially for me

Xmas morning - box opens < Woooooooow slow down son, pass it here "Let dad check it to make sure everything working OK"  :grin:

Practically < as per Rich, do you think he will pick it up pretty easy? it does look like it has good power, would you advise I go for the mini for his age?
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Beddie on November 13, 2011, 10:10:46 pm
Beddie that E-SKY Honeybee  looks brilliant. Is it hard to fly?

It's a little bit harder to master than the £25 3 channel ones you can get but the only difference is the size and speed and with a 4 channel you add the abilty to move sideways  :smiley:
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Beddie on November 13, 2011, 10:12:46 pm
It does look good.....especially for me

Xmas morning - box opens < Woooooooow slow down son, pass it here "Let dad check it to make sure everything working OK"  :grin:

Practically < as per Rich, do you think he will pick it up pretty easy? it does look like it has good power, would you advise I go for the mini for his age?

I'd say the mini will be easier to handle given his age and a good bit cheaper should he get bored by boxing day lol!

How about a father son combo present, get him the mini and you get the V2  :grin:
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Johnny_tro on November 13, 2011, 10:17:19 pm
 :signLOL: Father son - wont happen buddy, he will want mine lol


Just been looking at the KD450s  :drool: :drool: Now thats POWER  :drool:

Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: MattPoss on November 13, 2011, 10:27:43 pm
My advice would be get a one with the gyro blades on, I got one without and it's super hars for a first one.

I also used to have an Aerobird R/C plane, again I found it very hard.

Make sure you have lots of spares and lots of patience :signLOL:

Matt
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Beddie on November 13, 2011, 10:30:59 pm
Yeah that KD450 looks awesome! and he's got some skillz too!  :happy2:

I'd love to get into the proper 6CH CP stuff but don't think i'd have the cash for all the spares i'd need!  :grin:
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Johnny_tro on November 13, 2011, 10:34:26 pm
gyro < these are the ones that are 'double bladed' ? (one on top of the other)
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Eccie on November 13, 2011, 10:35:33 pm
I know sod all about RC helicopters, but just I've just seen this, it could be great or **** just trying to offer help

http://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/remote-control-apache-gyro-helicopter-was-39-99-now-only-14-99-play-com-1059354
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Beddie on November 13, 2011, 10:47:42 pm
gyro < these are the ones that are 'double bladed' ? (one on top of the other)

All the 3 and 4 channel ones have gyro stability in some form or another, the 3 channel stuff with the double blades are more stable and easier to fly as the twin rotor counteracts the turning torque that a single blade causes, this allows you to have it hover and fly in a straight line without any steering inputs (as long as its trimmed ok)

With the 4 channel and single blade stuff the chopper will want to rotate as you try to go in a straight line so it has gyro control to the tail rotor but it is trickier to fly than the twin rotor stuff, more rewarding and it goes faster too  :grin:
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Johnny_tro on November 13, 2011, 10:48:26 pm
Appreciate the input from all.....

The one on that link (Play.com) is VERY basic. We have one like that. You can blast it aroud the house, everything and it takes a bashing......but has a low enjoyment level. Great for younger ones though.

Son's wanting to kinda go up a level now.......
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Johnny_tro on November 13, 2011, 10:51:03 pm
The basic one we have has 'trimmed'.............I'm useless  :signLOL: trying to hover, while trying to trim it  :signLOL:

Like a right handed person trying to write a letter with his left  :laugh: trying though
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Beddie on November 13, 2011, 11:02:57 pm
If you already have one of the little basic ones then a 4 channel co-axial (double rotor) will fly very similar to that but will have the benefit of being able to control left and right motion too, makes quite a difference to how it flies and what you can do with it though and still retains the easy fly nature,

Single blade 4 channel has the same controls as the co-axial but the single rotor makes it a bit trickier to fly but is the next step if he wants to move up etc  :happy2:

If you have a model shop nearby pop in and have a chat about the different options perhaps  :smiley:

Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Johnny_tro on November 13, 2011, 11:34:22 pm
Think we will do it buddy......go with your one.

He's 10....but fairly sensible and does look after ALL his stuff to be fair. Think he will love it.........and near future maybe try a few upgrades (not the expensive) to boost it up a bit when he becomes better at it.

Take this Kinder-egg one bag to toys r us and get the mrs to order one.

Plus - I fancy a go of the big one  :grin:
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Johnny_tro on November 15, 2011, 02:56:55 pm
Update, after lots of talking, fighting, talking more fighting, then some love making lol we finally decided.........

We went with the http://www.rcmods.co.uk/esky-honeybee-v2-24g-p-6766.html

 :happy2: Extra few quid.....we think he will live with it longer. The smaller one we think he will get fed up off it. He does look after his things I have to say he is a good kid.....

Waiting on the mail man now......

thanks for info all. Has helped.
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: rich83 on November 15, 2011, 03:28:03 pm
Awesome... i now have RC Chopper envy!  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Beddie on November 15, 2011, 03:33:06 pm
Awesome... i now have RC Chopper envy!  :signLOL:
Get one bought! Imagine the fun at harewood house etc, nevermind the video opportunities with a microcam slung under it   :grin:
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: rich83 on November 15, 2011, 03:33:52 pm
Awesome... i now have RC Chopper envy!  :signLOL:
Get one bought! Imagine the fun at harewood house etc, nevermind the video opportunities with a microcam slung under it   :grin:

Shall i send you my cheque book now or later?  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Beddie on November 15, 2011, 03:36:22 pm
Awesome... i now have RC Chopper envy!  :signLOL:
Get one bought! Imagine the fun at harewood house etc, nevermind the video opportunities with a microcam slung under it   :grin:

Shall i send you my cheque book now or later?  :signLOL:
:grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Johnny_tro on November 15, 2011, 05:58:59 pm
DOOOO IT!!!

Obviously, Xmas I will have to set it up and check it for him first...SAFETY first of course.

All < you should google the extra and mods you can do to these  :drool: already planning upgrades...... :drool:
Title: Re: Xmas and my son < Remote controlled
Post by: Tamiyoman on November 15, 2011, 06:05:34 pm
I bought my father one for his birthday last year, it was a 3 channel contra-rotating one, very small can land it on your hand, he loves it, flies it round the living room when my mum is not in. He liked it so much he had a 4channel one for christmas 3 months later, same company but better model and MUCH harder to fly, spares always come in handy!!

We got it from Kyosho as they are one of the importers for it.