MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: rdfcpete on November 21, 2011, 06:36:31 pm
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As a block, I've heard only feedback that it's been a hit in the TT-RS and RS3.
What else is it expected to feature in further down the line, should it be used again? I heard loose info that the Q5-R thing may have it(?) but I doubt that would appeal to many of us MK5 GTI owners.
After reading this months Evo about the new BMW 528i/328i being in-line four turbos, does it mean the end of 5 and 6 cylinders where things like the 2.5TFSI and straight 6 block are concerned too? I do think it's a massive, massive shame should it be the case :ashamed:
I can't quite understand the sudden downgrading considering examples such as the E91/2 325i straight 6 block being capable of nearly 40mpg combined with respectable emissions, as well as even the S4 v6 3.0T engine capable of just short of 30mpg (to take two examples) again with cleaner emissions. With both petrol turbo and petrol NASP engines becoming greener and more affordable to run even at larger capacities, albeit gradually, why the sudden downgrade in capacity of engines like that that BMW (again as an example) have been renowned for in decades, taking the 2.8 straight 6 as the subject?
It probably makes absolute sense servicing wise, but one of the main reasons I'm sure people buy a 5/6/8/10 + cylinder performance car is partly for the sound and I can't see a flat/straight four offering that any longer? What I think would ultimately be dull is if the facelift TT-RS and 1M's next time used a highly strung straight or in-line four cylinder - It wouldn't the same engine wise or sound wise, I'm sure?
I hope the 2.5TFSI doesn't get the chop just yet. Is it likely to, given the green push from all directions and more powerful four cylinders becoming ever present in more and more model ranges?
Cheers
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If so many older Golfs get Tfsi & 20vT conversions I wonder why we don't see any MkVs with 2.5 tfsi :party:
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If so many older Golfs get Tfsi & 20vT conversions I wonder why we don't see any MkVs with 2.5 tfsi :party:
Simply pure cost.
Imagine how much a 2.5TFSi block is :scared:
I think it will be a while yet till we do. Unless i win the lottery this week then i'll be dropping one in my vRS :evilgrin:
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I know someone with the ttrs mtr in his Audi a3 sport back
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I know someone with the ttrs mtr in his Audi a3 sport back
:drool: :party:
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does sound very nice
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The thing is, the EU's emissions targets mean volume cars have to be efficient. So they'll try and shove a small capacity blown motor in as many models as they possibly can, so they've a bit left in the bank to still make silly niche M/RS cars with lots of pots & power.
What's tradition though?? The original M3 had a 4-pot, then a couple of I6s, a V8 and now soon to be a TT6. I know what I prefer, but the purists sometimes have rose tinted rear view mirrors.
I can't see Audi ditching the 5-pot, they don't make enough of the RS cars to be a drain on their overall target. The rally nostalgia kudos is worth it alone.
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I'm sure I read that a new 2.5t is about 7-8K!
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Yep they are big bucks, If I could find one at a good price I would put one in mine tomorrow :laugh: :laugh:
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Wait till a few get written off steve! :-)
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My eyes are always peeled :grin: :grin:
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IIRC, the 2.5TFSI is circa £11k from Audi :stupid:
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Blimey!!!
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It sounds :drool:
Got to take a TTRS to York and back from Leeds.
Wheres Hurdy at? Get one in his Polo.
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IIRC, the 2.5TFSI is circa £11k from Audi :stupid:
Yup it is and that is just the base engine. No other bits. I reckon you would be looking around the £15k mark for all the other bits you would need. :surprised:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fww275%2FTaufe%2FScreenShot2011-11-21at212655.png&hash=67509bdf3b0aacd0b2f5d59145db886045ad34d5)
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IIRC, the 2.5TFSI is circa £11k from Audi :stupid:
Yup it is and that is just the base engine. No other bits. I reckon you would be looking around the £15k mark for all the other bits you would need. :surprised:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fww275%2FTaufe%2FScreenShot2011-11-21at212655.png&hash=67509bdf3b0aacd0b2f5d59145db886045ad34d5)
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If so many older Golfs get Tfsi & 20vT conversions I wonder why we don't see any MkVs with 2.5 tfsi :party:
Simply pure cost.
Imagine how much a 2.5TFSi block is :scared:
I think it will be a while yet till we do. Unless i win the lottery this week then i'll be dropping one in my vRS :evilgrin:
15k!
750hp 2.5tfsi's soon!
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I'd rather have a 320bhp 2.0t that corners like a house fly... It would be cheaper too :-)
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lol for £15k sell your current car and use the £15k on an lightly used TT-RS with a small finance package!! would handle better than our humble hatchbacks anyways!
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I hope they don't because it is a complete masterpiece!
I had a guy follow me in his shiny new R8 (V8) off the motorway the other day after we had a little play. 'How the f*ck were you pulling away from me then!!!' Hahahahaha!
Revo + 2.5 TFSI = Bucket loads of win :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
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Can't wait to get me some 2.5 + Revo action. :driver:
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Can't wait to get me some 2.5 + Revo action. :driver:
Long time no see Gary :happy2: What's in the pipeline?
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Can't wait to get me some 2.5 + Revo action. :driver:
Long time no see Gary :happy2: What's in the pipeline?
Something very nice..hopefully... :happy2:
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Can't wait to get me some 2.5 + Revo action. :driver:
Long time no see Gary :happy2: What's in the pipeline?
Something very nice..hopefully... :happy2:
Fingers crossed :innocent:
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Can't wait to get me some 2.5 + Revo action. :driver:
Long time no see Gary :happy2: What's in the pipeline?
Something very nice..hopefully... :happy2:
Fingers crossed :innocent:
Excited for ya :party:
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Off topic I know but cheers Mike, Wayne and Tim for your advice :drinking:
Lets hope the 2.5 is as good as people say :party:
Can't wait to get me some 2.5 + Revo action. :driver:
Long time no see Gary :happy2: What's in the pipeline?
Something very nice..hopefully... :happy2:
Fingers crossed :innocent:
Excited for ya :party:
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Ive driven my TTRS in FWD mode. Pointless with over 400bhp on tap, spins relentlessy through the gears!
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Off topic I know but cheers Mike, Wayne and Tim for your advice :drinking:
Lets hope the 2.5 is as good as people say :party:
Can't wait to get me some 2.5 + Revo action. :driver:
Long time no see Gary :happy2: What's in the pipeline?
Something very nice..hopefully... :happy2:
Fingers crossed :innocent:
Excited for ya :party:
:happy2: No worries Garry, the engine is a peach, having driven a couple of TTRS's and the RS3 you won't be dissapointed. The noise is "orgasmic" just like the old rally quattro's of yester year...... :innocent:
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Looks like MTM have made this step already...
http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=24963 (http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=24963)
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That must be awesome. :evilgrin:
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That would be a sleeper and a half :driver:
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Wow :evilgrin: That A1 is stonking... :drool:
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:love: :love: :love: :love: :party: :party: :party: :party: :party:
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WOW :drool:
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That's insane, love it :evilgrin:
I'd like to see that against a Turbo S with PDK or a GTR in a straight line.
Or, against the M3 round a track!
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Pete I reckon the A1 would beat both the GTR and Porsche, the A1 being alot lighter and with 500bhp what would it take to match it :scared:
Darren
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Koenigsegg Agera R :driver: :evilgrin:
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The short wheelbase is going to make it pretty twitchy in corners though :scared:
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plus its front wheel drive only.
It must be awful to drive..... no one else thinking that? having all that power and barely being able to use it?
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plus its front wheel drive only.
It must be awful to drive..... no one else thinking that? having all that power and barely being able to use it?
Nope, I'm with you, the ingredients don't add up, regardless of the engine.
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But it's got a diff. Says so in the Article :evilgrin: :driver:
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Its for sale :smiley:
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After reading this months Evo about the new BMW 528i/328i being in-line four turbos,
does it mean the end of 5 and 6 cylinders where things like the 2.5TFSI and straight 6
block are concerned too? I do think it's a massive, massive shame should it be the case
Why that?
It does mean the end of non-turbo straight six at BMW. :wink:
Sadly in future there won't be 325i or 330i straight six anymore
due to politics and marketing based on CO² and milage.
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Sadly why?
The newer engines give better economy and better performance. The only downside is noise, and that can be engineered (new M5 for example).
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Yes, because of the incredible sound the BMW straight six provided.
The new 2.0 Turbo offers more torque and is cheaper to build. That's it.
Economy? No, the BMW DFI 3.0 straight six was one of the most efficient
engines on the market. The 325i outperformed the similar powered
advanced 2.0 TFSI A4/A5 engine with Valvetronic in several comparisons.
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I had a 325i and it was a horrendously uneconomical car. The engine in the 328i/528i looks fantastic, a far better proposition than any straight six...
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Pete I reckon the A1 would beat both the GTR and Porsche, the A1 being alot lighter and with 500bhp what would it take to match it :scared:
Darren
I'd love to see them at each others throats. The brutal power to weight ratio must give some of the supercars a run for their money :party:
Sadly why?
... The only downside is noise, and that can be engineered (new M5 for example).
That's a V8 though - they'd have to do something seriously wrong for it to sound boring, lets face it?!
I stick with my original points about the sound - I think if you buy a premium brand car higher up the engine range, part of the package needs to be soulful acoustics and I just don't think a straight four will offer that, so it would be the respective TDI engines that would take my preference if you're talking 4 cylinders (which will as per usual be slightly more economy anyway I expect.)
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I had a 325i and it was a horrendously uneconomical car. The engine in the 328i/528i looks fantastic, a far better proposition than any straight six...
The latest 3.0 l direct injection 325i that is still offered as coupé and convertible??