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General => Random Chat => Topic started by: WhiteGTI on November 23, 2011, 11:34:02 am

Title: The future of VW R - diesel and all-wheel-drive....
Post by: WhiteGTI on November 23, 2011, 11:34:02 am
Taken from Pistonheads...

Controversial rumblings from VW's 'R' brand bosses about the future shape of fast VWs: "The future is diesel and all-wheel-drive."
These are the words of Ulrich Richter, R GmbH's executive director, speaking to US blog site Autoblog at the LA show.


This means (though this is taking an Olympic-standard long jump to draw such a conclusion) that we could well be seeing an oil-burning 'R' car (VW Golf GTD R, anyone?) before too long. Which could be a good thing or a bad thing, depending on your prejudices/predelictions...

More universally encouraging news comes from R's assertion that low weight is more effective for economy than hybrid tech. "You can get the same efficiency [as a hybrid] by dropping 100 kilos," says Richter. Which, as much as it might be a statement of the bleedin' obvious to many, is also good news for those who like their fast VW's with a side-serving of agility, and not an extra lump of dead-weight battery
Title: Re: The future of VW R - diesel and all-wheel-drive....
Post by: jhtrophy on November 23, 2011, 12:05:20 pm
This sort of thing does worry me, but I want a new car but I just know that won't be long before fuel will be £2 per litre and having a decent petrol car would be just daft, so would not surprise me at all if vw do that, only seems to be bm who are trying to work around the problem by introducing good petrol engines that are efficient ( new 328 sounds like a fantastic engine). I think it will have to be a blue motion and a toy for me as these fast diesels do nothing for me personally.
Title: Re: The future of VW R - diesel and all-wheel-drive....
Post by: andrewparker on November 23, 2011, 12:14:10 pm
Have you ever tried the Renaultsport Megane dCi 175 Cup JHTROPHY? Apparently a good diesel hot hatch.
Title: Re: The future of VW R - diesel and all-wheel-drive....
Post by: jhtrophy on November 23, 2011, 02:59:01 pm
Have you ever tried the Renaultsport Megane dCi 175 Cup JHTROPHY? Apparently a good diesel hot hatch.
It's not the chassis of diesels I have a problem with, it's the engine, I know lots of people love diesels but I just don't, I know they can be fast but the way the engine delivers its power just does not seem to work for me when pushing on, no feel whatsoever, and from experience the more power the worse it is! I wouldn't want another fwd hot hatch anyway, but yeah they are a good hot hatch diesel :happy2:
Title: Re: The future of VW R - diesel and all-wheel-drive....
Post by: Hurdy on November 23, 2011, 03:24:33 pm
I've had diesel and 4wd before, wasn't a match made in heaven either  :sad1:

Does this mean the Polo R will be a diesel next year  :laugh:
Title: Re: The future of VW R - diesel and all-wheel-drive....
Post by: rich83 on November 23, 2011, 03:32:10 pm
.... What about a GTIe.... 25miles before recharge, makes about as much sense to me.

LOL
Title: Re: The future of VW R - diesel and all-wheel-drive....
Post by: sub39h on November 23, 2011, 05:30:02 pm
i would like to drive the new VAG 2.0 twin turbo TDI that was featured in the A3 TDI CLubsport quattro concept before i pass judgement... whenever they get their finger out and release it that is.

tbh i drove the A1 1.4T with DSG and stop/start for a bit and it's a good bit of kit. considering all VAG cars will have this tech soon i think there will still be place for a 2.0T to power higher model cars like the S3 and Golf R... just a shame the R32 is gone, i would have loved to see a Golf R36 with the Passat R36 engine  :laugh:
Title: Re: The future of VW R - diesel and all-wheel-drive....
Post by: PDT on November 23, 2011, 05:57:02 pm
In the USA and Canada they have the 335dX which is a 3 series saloon 3.0d twin turbo 4x4. Brilliant to drive.
Title: Re: The future of VW R - diesel and all-wheel-drive....
Post by: rich83 on November 23, 2011, 07:52:54 pm
Sub. There is a guy with a mk4 R36 Turbo.... Of which i tried to have a race with, before i found out what it was.  Fast!!
Title: Re: The future of VW R - diesel and all-wheel-drive....
Post by: damoegan on November 23, 2011, 09:06:19 pm
You got a link to the build thread, Rich?
Title: Re: The future of VW R - diesel and all-wheel-drive....
Post by: rich83 on November 23, 2011, 09:08:54 pm
I'll try and find it mate. I think it's on R32OC.

The guys name is slapbladder, should be easier to find on dubworks forum :-)
Title: Re: The future of VW R - diesel and all-wheel-drive....
Post by: Hedge on November 23, 2011, 09:11:39 pm
If you are on about Slapbladders Mk4 then it wasn't an R36 motor and the last I heard about a year or so ago he had just bought the turbo kit but was having some disagreements around sponsorship with the site.  :wink:
Title: Re: The future of VW R - diesel and all-wheel-drive....
Post by: rich83 on November 23, 2011, 09:20:06 pm
Yeah... He's not a fan of R32OC. I think it's awful when forum members have issues with sponsors.... ;-)

He did get a r36 motor in it.

http://forums.dubworks.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=26
Title: Re: The future of VW R - diesel and all-wheel-drive....
Post by: Hedge on November 23, 2011, 09:23:10 pm
The original 3.6 was from a Toerag non-FSI and not R36. :wink:

I can't view that forum but the falling out was about his continual pushing of C2 Motorsports who were no longer R32OC sponsors.  :confused: :confused:
Title: Re: The future of VW R - diesel and all-wheel-drive....
Post by: rich83 on November 23, 2011, 09:38:03 pm
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2F0703%2Fslapbladder%2Fb58b092d.jpg&hash=1efdd9dcfcc55c8f9025d10d0befb651dcfa100a)
Title: Re: The future of VW R - diesel and all-wheel-drive....
Post by: Hedge on November 23, 2011, 10:34:58 pm
280 hp 3.6 VR6 FSI.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vwvortex.com%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2F%2FVolkswagen%2FPassat%2FPassat%2520VI%2FPassat%2520Sedan%2520%2528U.S%2529%2F040.jpg&hash=8a90ff1c2cb1cedfea84bcfcc53922448870aebe)

300 hp 3.6 VR6 FSI. (R36)
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vwvortex.com%2Fgallery%2Falbums%2F%2FVolkswagen%2FPassat%2FPassat%2520VI%2FR36%2F009.jpg&hash=468d62867f3826c5cd06bab41f425aa7e1ebf6b1)

http://www.rs6.com/showthread.php/16937-It-look-like-that-VW-start-replacing-the-3.2-VR6.?p=145465&viewfull=1#post145465  :wink:
Title: Re: The future of VW R - diesel and all-wheel-drive....
Post by: rich83 on November 23, 2011, 10:36:10 pm
Ahhh ok... Someone's telling porkies then?
Title: Re: The future of VW R - diesel and all-wheel-drive....
Post by: Mk5 GTian on December 03, 2011, 09:39:23 pm
This sort of thing does worry me, but I want a new car but I just know that won't be long before fuel will be £2 per litre and having a decent petrol car would be just daft, so would not surprise me at all if vw do that, only seems to be bm who are trying to work around the problem by introducing good petrol engines that are efficient ( new 328 sounds like a fantastic engine). I think it will have to be a blue motion and a toy for me as these fast diesels do nothing for me personally.

Me too, I can see us getting an Up! as a run-around for the Mrs, and the Golf will only come out at weekends. (at least the Monza 2's would stop meeting the kerb on a weekly basis)
Title: Re: The future of VW R - diesel and all-wheel-drive....
Post by: animal on December 04, 2011, 12:03:24 am
Yeah... He's not a fan of R32OC. I think it's awful when forum members have issues with sponsors.... ;-)

Couldnt have happened to a nicer guy...