MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: csmithy on November 30, 2011, 08:28:00 pm

Title: Stage 1 doesnt Feel Fast
Post by: csmithy on November 30, 2011, 08:28:00 pm: Just installed stage 1 bluefin and went out in it staright away and i cant really tell that its made any difference. Is this mormal
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Post by: chris s on November 30, 2011, 08:36:53 pm: Gti or ed30
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Post by: Boothy on November 30, 2011, 08:43:16 pm: Faulty diverter valve I bet. I'd put money on it if you definitely installed the software correctly.
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Post by: maxload on November 30, 2011, 08:53:09 pm: Quote from: csmithy on November 30, 2011, 08:28:00 pm
Just installed stage 1 bluefin and went out in it staright away and i cant really tell that its made any difference. Is this mormal

Going from stock to stage1 you should be able to tell the difference for sure.
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Post by: Weston on November 30, 2011, 09:15:07 pm: You should definitely be able to tell :driver:
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Post by: csmithy on November 30, 2011, 09:16:14 pm: gti, yeah installed it right, loaded map of my car and then sent it to blufin and then downloaded new one onto the blufin and the installed to car. does a faulty dv make loads of difference
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Post by: Boothy on November 30, 2011, 09:39:40 pm: Quote from: csmithy on November 30, 2011, 09:16:14 pm
gti, yeah installed it right, loaded map of my car and then sent it to blufin and then downloaded new one onto the blufin and the installed to car. does a faulty dv make loads of difference

Yep. I have the GTI myself and have the Bluefin stage 1. I had the same issue though and it felt very little, if not no different at all and the DV is a known weak point. Had it replaced with the VW revision D for about £50 and as soon as I got in it again I knew I'd solved it. Theres no mistaking the difference if you ask me so if you can't notice it something is wrong somewhere and the DV is probably the best place to start.

Might be worth asking a member on the Vagcom thread to have a butchers first if your feeling frugal mate. That might highlight any faults -

http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,120.0.html
Title: Re: Stage 1 doesnt Feel Fast
Post by: csmithy on November 30, 2011, 09:43:32 pm: I'll go get one tomorow from vw and see if its any different
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Post by: Boothy on November 30, 2011, 09:45:07 pm: Quote from: csmithy on November 30, 2011, 09:43:32 pm
I'll go get one tomorow from vw and see if its any different

Have a search for the guide on here as it can be a bit of an arse to change if your gonna do it yourself unless your tooled up etc.
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Post by: s2martyn on November 30, 2011, 09:49:15 pm: Which channel number do I look in?what are we loging here?requested boost verses actual boost?
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Post by: bacillus on November 30, 2011, 09:59:45 pm: Quote from: s2martyn on November 30, 2011, 09:49:15 pm
Which channel number do I look in?what are we loging here?requested boost verses actual boost?

Yup block 115 (requested vs actual boost). As you're there also log block 106 for fuel rail pressure.
Scan the car for fault codes before you log it.
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Post by: csmithy on November 30, 2011, 10:00:39 pm: how do you do that, or do you need vag com
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Post by: s2martyn on November 30, 2011, 10:08:38 pm: Yeah bag com logging
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Post by: csmithy on December 01, 2011, 10:17:04 pm: changed the dv and went fot a drive. Its a different car now and so much faster
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Post by: Weston on December 01, 2011, 10:21:31 pm: Quote from: csmithy on December 01, 2011, 10:17:04 pm
changed the dv and went fot a drive. Its a different car now and so much faster

Success :grin:
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Post by: Boothy on December 02, 2011, 10:20:17 am: Quote from: csmithy on December 01, 2011, 10:17:04 pm
changed the dv and went fot a drive. Its a different car now and so much faster
Excellent
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Post by: csmithy on December 06, 2011, 06:04:22 pm: thanks for the help
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Post by: sundance on December 08, 2011, 01:56:00 pm: Is there any value in changing the DV on cars which do NOT have a remapped ECU?
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Post by: Betty02 on December 08, 2011, 02:00:56 pm: How do you guys rate the BF? Tempted buy one as Revo is just so far away! Can you load the standard map back on at any time then the remap back on as much as you want?
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Post by: Boothy on December 09, 2011, 10:41:09 am: Quote from: sundance on December 08, 2011, 01:56:00 pm
Is there any value in changing the DV on cars which do NOT have a remapped ECU?

I would say yes, or check it at the very least. It could be knackered and you just don't know until you get a map and realize something is wrong.

Quote from: Betty02 on December 08, 2011, 02:00:56 pm
How do you guys rate the BF? Tempted buy one as Revo is just so far away! Can you load the standard map back on at any time then the remap back on as much as you want?

When you get the BF the device copies your existing map and downloads it to Superchips via the web/pc and the new map then gets downloaded back onto the BF a short time later. Meaning the device only holds your new map. However your old map is stored at Superchips I believe and you can request this at your pleasure. It would mean doing the whole process again though and a bit of a ball ache.
The REVO select has the ability to do what you are asking with ease but its a bit more money.
Title: Re: Stage 1 doesnt Feel Fast
Post by: rdfcpete on December 09, 2011, 11:19:44 am: Quote from: csmithy on December 01, 2011, 10:17:04 pm
changed the dv and went fot a drive. Its a different car now and so much faster

Good to hear mate :happy2:

How much did you spend on this replacement out of interest?
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Post by: csmithy on December 09, 2011, 05:00:57 pm: £48 fro tps
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Post by: rdfcpete on December 09, 2011, 06:14:17 pm: ^ Fit yourself?

:happy2:
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Post by: csmithy on December 10, 2011, 11:17:34 am: yeah took half hour under the car
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Post by: Hedge on December 10, 2011, 11:25:16 am: Quote from: Boothy on December 09, 2011, 10:41:09 am
The REVO select has the ability to do what you are asking with ease but its a bit more money.

Not the same as Bluefin. All Revo do is turn the map down to stock values where as the Blufin handset loads the original map back on. :smiley:
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Post by: Marshall on December 25, 2011, 06:28:06 pm: Bluefin is on offer at jkm till 31st December for £372 delivered.
As listed previous bluefin loads your original map back on and revo reverts back to a revo stock map.
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