MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: vwrascal on December 03, 2011, 03:58:26 pm
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I have finally figured it out, tis possible via 2 clicks on vagcom :happy2:
Boom.....
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The fogs now come on with the ignition and turn off when lights are switched on....
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But how is this done I hear you cry...
Go "central electronics controller 09"
"coding 07"
"long coding helper"
then you need to go to "byte 17" and activate "daytime running light via fog light" like so...
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Then go back to "byte 11" where you will find "front parking light dimming", in the box on the right choose what dimming setting you would like 0-100%, in the picture below I have them set at 80 as you can see!
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Then "exit" long coding helper, press "do it" and the jobs a good'un! :happy2: I will take thankyou donations in the form of pounds sterling :laugh:
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Very nice buddy but would be better if you can turn them right down so they are not so bright,
Runs off to try it :grin: instead of pounds sterling how about a :love: or a :drinking:
Darren
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well done :happy2:
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Do the fogs still come on as DRLs when in the auto light position?
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I also read somewhere that whatever percentage they are set at for DRL's, that's what they'll be when used as fogs. So if set at 10% to give you a nice DRL glow, when you want fogs they will only come on at 10%. Not tried it myself so can't confirm.
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I also read somewhere that whatever percentage they are set at for DRL's, that's what they'll be when used as fogs. So if set at 10% to give you a nice DRL glow, when you want fogs they will only come on at 10%. Not tried it myself so can't confirm.
Nope they go back upto full power sir, just tried it but set them at 40% and has mine is the 30byte module its on byte 20 to set the dimming and has per instructions bytes 17 to turn the DRL's has fogs on :happy2:
Well done Mr Rascal really good find :notworthy:
Darren
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well done :happy2:
Very nice buddy but would be better if you can turn them right down so they are not so bright,
Runs off to try it :grin: instead of pounds sterling how about a :love: or a :drinking:
Darren
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I also read somewhere that whatever percentage they are set at for DRL's, that's what they'll be when used as fogs. So if set at 10% to give you a nice DRL glow, when you want fogs they will only come on at 10%. Not tried it myself so can't confirm.
Nope they go back upto full power sir, just tried it but set them at 40% and has mine is the 30byte module its on byte 20 to set the dimming and has per instructions bytes 17 to turn the DRL's has fogs on :happy2:
Well done Mr Rascal really good find :notworthy:
Darren
Thanks for confirming this. Will have a fiddle tomorrow :laugh:
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Do the fogs still come on as DRLs when in the auto light position?
They do indeed for me Rich when used previously :happy2:
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They will stay on until your main lights come on by the looks of it :happy2:
Darren
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^ They react to the dusk sensor too Mr M, so they're dynamic DRL's (or whatever you want to call them, in that - I mean they're automatically triggered in daylight).
You can also switch to the '0' setting on the headlight switch which puts them on too regardless of whether it's daylight/night time.
They'll also de-activate when the handbrake is applied, then re-illuminate when the handbrake is released and a gear is selected/engaged :happy2:
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God these VW designers are fantastic :happy2:
Darren
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Quality mod, and cracking discovery....... :happy2:
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Yet another reason to get front fog wiring and a 30 byte cecm, I want this great tip on how to do it mate
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:drinking: Bravo,sir
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Impressive stuff, but you're just going to look like the idiot who is driving around with his fogs lights on...
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Impressive stuff, but you're just going to look like the idiot who is driving around with his fogs lights on...
Thats my only concern, its one of my bugbears
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Yet another reason to get front fog wiring and a 30 byte cecm, I want this great tip on how to do it mate
only 21 byte cent elec controller needed as using bytes 11 & 17 :happy2:
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Impressive stuff, but you're just going to look like the idiot who is driving around with his fogs lights on...
Lots of them around...
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Impressive stuff, but you're just going to look like the idiot who is driving around with his fogs lights on...
Lots of them around...
new passats have foglights as drl's :wink:
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Impressive stuff, but you're just going to look like the idiot who is driving around with his fogs lights on...
Anyone who's knows there stuff will realise they are DRL's as fogs only work when the lights are on...... :driver:
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I see you have Emergency brake flash light enabled, can you tell me what this is?
Does it pulse the brake lights quickly if higher than usual pressure is applied or is it activated if the pressure is applied for a set length of time??
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Impressive stuff, but you're just going to look like the idiot who is driving around with his fogs lights on...
Thats my only concern, its one of my bugbears
Indeed, or the latest craze round here seems to driving around with fogs and sidelights at night :stupid:
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Yet another reason to get front fog wiring and a 30 byte cecm, I want this great tip on how to do it mate
only 21 byte cent elec controller needed as using bytes 11 & 17 :happy2:
I thought you needed a 23 to run front fogs? Can my 1k0 937 049 s run front fogs?
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Impressive stuff, but you're just going to look like the idiot who is driving around with his fogs lights on...
Anyone who's knows there stuff will realise they are DRL's as fogs only work when the lights are on...... :driver:
And to those who don't know their stuff, probably 99% of people, you'll just look like a knobhead.
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Impressive stuff, but you're just going to look like the idiot who is driving around with his fogs lights on...
Anyone who's knows there stuff will realise they are DRL's as fogs only work when the lights are on...... :driver:
And to those who don't know their stuff, probably 99% of people, you'll just look like a knobhead.
I take it you won't be doing this mod then? :rolleye:
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I agree with some of the comments about because those foglight knobheads annoy me too. That's why I think these need to be set at a low intensity as DRLs are on newer cars. Otherwise they will be mistaken for fogs.
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Er, no! Perhaps if I wanted to fit in with the Astras, Corsas, Puntos etc round here :grin:
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well im a proper knob then cos until I get bored they can stay on at 40% which at the moment you may just be able to spot them in the daylight.
and another one for the road :booty:
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Will be trying this tomorrow along with the indicator on one!
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This is not good news............. :fighting:
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Tomorrow i should be getting the christmas decorations out of the garage and putting them up (Hey I've got a 9 yr. old)
However, this forum is going to get me in trouble (again!) because I've got to sneak my laptop and Vag-com lead out to the garage and have a play around with this idea to see if i like the overall look
Good find.........just don't tell Robin!!!
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This is not good news............. :fighting:
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Tomorrow i should be getting the christmas decorations out of the garage and putting them up (Hey I've got a 9 yr. old)
However, this forum is going to get me in trouble (again!) because I've got to sneak my laptop and Vag-com lead out to the garage and have a play around with this idea to see if i like the overall look
Good find.........just don't tell Robin!!!
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That's one of the reasons why this forums is one of the best and worst I use lol. Great for info and ideas....but the worst for ideas that cost money I don't have makes the wish list even longer :laugh:
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That's one of the reasons why this forums is one of the best and worst I use lol. Great for info and ideas....but the worst for ideas that cost money I don't have makes the wish list even longer :laugh:
+1 on the above, my bank account is raped far to often now :ashamed:
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Yet another reason to get front fog wiring and a 30 byte cecm, I want this great tip on how to do it mate
only 21 byte cent elec controller needed as using bytes 11 & 17 :happy2:
I've followed the instructions to the letter but it didn't work for me :ashamed:
I've got the 23 byte controller.
Do I need to do anything else? Should the lights just come on after I exit from VCDS or when I click click on Do it?
I went back in and checked the setings and they had saved so not sure why it doesnt work :ashamed: :confused:
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Yet another reason to get front fog wiring and a 30 byte cecm, I want this great tip on how to do it mate
only 21 byte cent elec controller needed as using bytes 11 & 17 :happy2:
I've followed the instructions to the letter but it didn't work for me :ashamed:
I've got the 23 byte controller.
Do I need to do anything else? Should the lights just come on after I exit from VCDS or when I click click on Do it?
I went back in and checked the setings and they had saved so not sure why it doesnt work :ashamed: :confused:
they should work as soon as you press "do it"
once you have set the dimming in byte 11, scroll to next byte, then back again to make sure the value you entered is still there, then exit and "do it"
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Skavia we tried to do Pauls(PSW) this morning but no joy either, he has the 30byte 3C0-AJ controller also tried putting the cornering fogs on but no joy there either.
Also tried locking the car up for 30 seconds and locking with drivers key lock but nothing.
Darren
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Thanks Morty/Rascal.
Please let me know if you can work out why it doesn't work work as I really want this mod :party:
I saw a couple of settings about USA and Swedish DRLs, but I'm guessing this will just set the headlights/indicators on all the time which I don't want!
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Does anyone know if it is possible to active the mainbeam or highbeam lights as DRL's again just set at 10% power? i.e. MK6 look
I personally think this would look much better than fog lights.
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Does anyone know if it is possible to active the mainbeam or highbeam lights as DRL's again just set at 10% power? i.e. MK6 look
I personally think this would look much better than fog lights.
It's certainly not easy to do mate and I've not seen it done with VCDS or anything similar on a MK5.
I have seen it done on a Mk4 .:R32 - the guy used some kind of BMW headlight component which ran the high beam bulbs at 50% of their brightness. I don't know what the legalities are around it and whether it would pass an MOT. How likely it is you can do the same to a MK5 and what you'd need and need to do however, I've no idea either...
That's a look I've wanted for a long time but after all my research, it didn't look a feasible option unfortunately fella :happy2:
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Does anyone know if it is possible to active the mainbeam or highbeam lights as DRL's again just set at 10% power? i.e. MK6 look
I personally think this would look much better than fog lights.
It's certainly not easy to do mate and I've not seen it done with VCDS or anything similar on a MK5.
I have seen it done on a Mk4 .:R32 - the guy used some kind of BMW headlight component which ran the high beam bulbs at 50% of their brightness. I don't know what the legalities are around it and whether it would pass an MOT. How likely it is you can do the same to a MK5 and what you'd need and need to do however, I've no idea either...
That's a look I've wanted for a long time but after all my research, it didn't look a feasible option unfortunately fella :happy2:
Thats a real shame. Like you I want to retain the OE look.
Oh well.....
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Does anyone know if it is possible to active the mainbeam or highbeam lights as DRL's again just set at 10% power? i.e. MK6 look
I personally think this would look much better than fog lights.
...or just put your sidelights on?
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Impressive stuff, but you're just going to look like the idiot who is driving around with his fogs lights on...
Anyone who's knows there stuff will realise they are DRL's as fogs only work when the lights are on...... :driver:
....Exactly!! :happy2:
I've got the real thing: http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1917.0.html :P 8) :P
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Does anyone know if it is possible to active the mainbeam or highbeam lights as DRL's again just set at 10% power? i.e. MK6 look
I personally think this would look much better than fog lights.
....Those are the worst kind of DRL in my opinion. You need the intensity of LEDs. Proper DRLs are LED.
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The new passat and none gti polo use the standard fogs that are dimmed :happy2:
I thought this would be ideal for your use Robin, has you could actual strip the Hella wiring out and use the standard car loom for your DRL leds :happy2:
Darren
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Darren, any ideas? I've coded this (30 byte controller) as per above, and not a sausage. Not working at all!
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The new passat and none gti polo use the standard fogs that are dimmed :happy2:
I thought this would be ideal for your use Robin, has you could actual strip the Hella wiring out and use the standard car loom for your DRL leds :happy2:
Darren
....Indeed it may be ideal and knowing you are expert in these things I would take notice of your advice. However, I don't have any problems with the way my DRLs operate now so as it works, I see no need to mend it. :happy2:
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Does anyone know if it is possible to active the mainbeam or highbeam lights as DRL's again just set at 10% power? i.e. MK6 look
I personally think this would look much better than fog lights.
....Those are the worst kind of DRL in my opinion. You need the intensity of LEDs. Proper DRLs are LED.
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There is nothing more annoying than some plonker driving with fog lights on when it's not foggy.
DRLs are bad enough, but fog lights? Why?
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There is nothing more annoying than some plonker driving with fog lights on when it's not foggy.
DRLs are bad enough, but fog lights? Why?
Sounds daft, but I think it's a way to signify that you're driving around in something that isn't just the base model, hence the fact it's normally young lads in Astras or Corsas.
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Can i just say this is getting a bit boring now, if you don't like it go start another thread with your rants...
The drl's are becoming the norm situated in the fog light same has the cornering lights, and to be honest if I didn't know Robin and saw his car I would think young guy driving round with some hid fogs??? I don't mean to *iss people off but this is the way its going with the drl's
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I like it n im 38. Anyone in or around Sheffield who can do this for me :happy2:
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I could do this saturday for you if you like mate?
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As long as they function as DRLs I don't mind. What I hate is the numpties who drive around at night using only their fogs!
The most important is VOSA. If it passes their assessment, no issues.
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I am also 38 and fitted DRL's in the lower grilles of my vRS, initially done for safety, but I actually quite like look of them. Also bear in mind that any car built from January next year will have to have them as a legal requirement, so get used to it! :P
I do think that the flexible strips of blue LED carp as fitted to cars generally driven by our Eastern European companions are....... :sick:
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good find im going to get this done to mine :congrats:
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For those people who prefer the LED DRL look how about these as an alternative bulb?
Don't know if they will throw up any errors or how they would look if you dim them by say 25% but it may make your fogs look more like an LED - think this maybe the way forward if your running them all the time
http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/H11-55W-LED/
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I find switching my headlights on works just fine :wink:
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I find switching my headlights on works just fine :wink:
....That's just the point - It absolutely is NOT fine! Headlights are not a passive light whereas purpose-made LED DRLs are a passive light and hence a proper DRL by definition. But this is a debate/argument which can run on and on and on and on and on....................
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The drl's are becoming the norm situated in the fog light same has the cornering lights, and to be honest if I didn't know Robin and saw his car I would think young guy driving round with some hid fogs???
....I'm 64yo so I find that having DRLs works better than some other anti-aging products on the market.
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The drl's are becoming the norm situated in the fog light same has the cornering lights, and to be honest if I didn't know Robin and saw his car I would think young guy driving round with some hid fogs???
....I'm 64yo so I find that having DRLs works better than some other anti-aging products on the market.
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Nice one Robin
I didn't actually realise you was that young :happy2: Asker on the other GTI forum is 63 but until I saw him I would have thought maybe in his late 30s mainly due to his passion for modding is car to OEM+
Darren
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Personal preference thats all.
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I find switching my headlights on works just fine :wink:
....That's just the point - It absolutely is NOT fine! Headlights are not a passive light whereas purpose-made LED DRLs are a passive light and hence a proper DRL by definition. But this is a debate/argument which can run on and on and on and on and on....................
DRL's (or Daytime Running Lights) have been in use in Scandinavia since the early 70's. Long before the LED technology became suitable for automotive use. It's a relatively new technology in the DRL business, so to say that LEDs are the only proper DRL is just not correct.
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Well said above, I work for Volvo and drl are part of everyday life
That said I do like the fogs as drl's and I'm in my mid 30's
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I find switching my headlights on works just fine :wink:
....That's just the point - It absolutely is NOT fine! Headlights are not a passive light whereas purpose-made LED DRLs are a passive light and hence a proper DRL by definition. But this is a debate/argument which can run on and on and on and on and on....................
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.instructables.com%2Ffiles%2Fderiv%2FFXP%2FQ5QF%2FG4PC3GZ0%2FFXPQ5QFG4PC3GZ0.MEDIUM.jpg&hash=432f96972c924c6981c7b51dd9315b5cfa14f0fb)
DRL's (or Daytime Running Lights) have been in use in Scandinavia since the early 70's. Long before the LED technology became suitable for automotive use. It's a relatively new technology in the DRL business, so to say that LEDs are the only proper DRL is just not correct.
+1 DRLs are not bulb-type dependent.
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What constitutes a DRL has been argued about for over 10 years. Scandinavia has been and possibly continues to be (I don't know for certain) anti the non-Volvo forms of DRL, preferring the headlight version.
What I'm referring to is those European regulations which define that to be called a Daytime Running Light the light must be passive, which LEDs are and headlamps aren't. I'm excluding headlights which may use a new LED technology and obviously cannot be passive. The main reason that the regulations have taken so long to be formed is all the argument and inability for various countries and motoring organisations to agree. The disagreement continues!
i have read literally hundreds of pages of various international studies and commissioned reports. As Hella Deutschland supplied me my DRLs I was keen to establish they would not get me into trouble here in the UK and they haven't. As someone posted earlier, anyone who knows their stuff can easily recognise the difference between a foglight and a DRL. If someone thinks a foglight is a DRL they are plain ignorant.
I understand that the UK proposed that foglights be allowed as DRLs in an interim period, which kind of contradicts the existing use of fogs rules/legislation. But I don't follow all this stuff anymore as I don't need to and have better things to do.
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If someone thinks a foglight is a DRL they are plain ignorant.
Get real Robin. I'm pretty certain a huge number of road users don't even know what DRLs are, yet alone how to distinguish them from fog lights. That doesn't make them plain ignorant as you have so eloquently put it.
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What constitutes a DRL has been argued about for over 10 years. Scandinavia has been and possibly continues to be (I don't know for certain) anti the non-Volvo forms of DRL, preferring the headlight version.
What I'm referring to is those European regulations which define that to be called a Daytime Running Light the light must be passive, which LEDs are and headlamps aren't. I'm excluding headlights which may use a new LED technology and obviously cannot be passive. The main reason that the regulations have taken so long to be formed is all the argument and inability for various countries and motoring organisations to agree. The disagreement continues!<snip>
So the argument about DRLs started long before LED technology was even considered for automotive use? Yet you're adamant that LEDs are the "proper" DRLs and everything else is fail?
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I think I got it wrong about the 10 years - It's certainly a few years. :ashamed:
I'm adamant that LEDs fulfil the functional requirements of DRLs far better and are both the most recommended and most desirable solution.
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If someone thinks a foglight is a DRL they are plain ignorant.
Get real Robin. I'm pretty certain a huge number of road users don't even know what DRLs are, yet alone how to distinguish them from fog lights. That doesn't make them plain ignorant as you have so eloquently put it.
....If someone can't tell the difference between a LED DRL and a foglight then they certainly are ignorant of the differences, otherwise they could tell them apart couldn't they. Some people are ignorant of what even a DRL is.
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I think I got it wrong about the 10 years - It's certainly a few years. :ashamed:
I'm adamant that LEDs fulfil the functional requirements of DRLs far better and are both the most recommended and most desirable solution.
hmm does that mean the 10 plate Volvo XC90 that i had to replace the DRL BULB on today is infact not up to the job?
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***STOP IT***
yesterdays standard will always come leaps and bounds todays standards are now LED can we now finish this debate and agree to disagree, VWRascal found a good solution for people wanting a work around for drl's
Thank you mr rascal
Darren
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:congrats:
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What's wrong with just having your headlights on?
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What's wrong with just having your headlights on?
Exactly :notworthy:
Take the DRLs on a Citroen DS4, they're so bright you'd think that the driver had their main beams on :mad:
I leave my lights on the auto setting, and they work perfectly when required - sunset/dusk/fog. If I feel I need to be seen better, in a built up area for e.g., I switch on my headlights. They are Xenons, so are nice and bright :happy2:
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How do I unsubscribe from this thread!?
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How do I unsubscribe from this thread!?
Stop reading the posts!
I just leave my headlights on all the time during the winter, they still turn off when I leave the car, i just don't need to think about it then and i'm always visible. Although I do get a bit fed up with people always saying " you've left you lights on" when I park up.
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I just leave my headlights on all the time during the winter, they still turn off when I leave the car, i just don't need to think about it then and i'm always visible. Although I do get a bit fed up with people always saying " you've left you lights on" when I park up.
....My purpose-made Hella DRL's turn themselves on and off with my ignition and also automatically whenever I switch on/off any other lights. So I just don't need to think about it then and I'm always visible. It's very rare that anyone tells me I've left on my 'foglights'.
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Robin I think you have to go into your profile to unsubscribe to threads I hope no one has offended you in any way its just banter and I do it my self sometime, getting drawn into debates about stuff I know is right but thats life :happy2:
Thank you for your input on this subject now I think the thread should be locked and if any one is wanting the fogs has DRL's then they can get the instructions from the first post :happy2:
Darren
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How on earth are we going to resolve this issue?
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Robin I think you have to go into your profile to unsubscribe to threads I hope no one has offended you in any way its just banter and I do it my self sometime, getting drawn into debates about stuff I know is right but thats life :happy2:
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....No offence taken from anyone - We are all entitled to our different opinions/views. My unsubscribe comment was more a "I give up! This debate is going nowhere" kind of exasperation.
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How on earth are we going to resolve this issue?
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PMSL. :laugh: Seems reasonable to me.
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Ive got no problems with that, but i'm on the fence has both side are right the new way is the LED way the old way which is still been used is the headlight/foglight way :popcornsoda:
So let the fight commence
Put a bet on red :happy2:
Darren
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You dont have to worry about Robin, he has been in lots of tussles over his DRL's . :wink:
You will always get this type of outcome on these threads, just like the HID's. :smiley:
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You dont have to worry about Robin, he has been in lots of tussles over his DRL's . :wink:
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^ Posted by Saint Steve a while ago.
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Brilliant! :signLOL:
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Somewhat more off-topic but too funny not to post - For those who know me as a musician with American Indian connections:
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^ In spite of appearances and my penchant for Babes, this is NOT me! :laugh:
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Fixed.........
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Do i look like I care if you like my FOGLIGHTS..........
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