MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: GEE on December 08, 2011, 06:15:41 pm

Title: Stolen wheel bolts.
Post by: GEE on December 08, 2011, 06:15:41 pm
Hi everyone.

The other day I was washing my Edition 30, and noticed that 3 out of the 5 wheel bolts have been stolen.
Have no idea when this must have happened, but I have probably been driving around for a week or so with only 2 bolts holding my back left wheel on!!!

Anyway, I was wondering if someone could tell me exactly which spec of bolt I need. I have a 2009 MK5 Golf GTI edition 30.
I would like to get the McGard anti-theft ones. As far as I can work out, the ones I need are McGard Ultra 28018SL.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MCGARD-ULTRA-LOCKING-NUTS-BOLTS-28018-SL-28018SL-/300533746746

I would like a set of 20 of them so that none of them can be stolen in the future.
Is it possible to get a set of 20 which all only need one key. As far as I can see they only sell them in packs of 4 and each pack has a separate key.

Thanks

Title: Re: Stolen wheel bolts.
Post by: MPS on December 08, 2011, 06:19:05 pm
Sounds like someone wanted to treat themselves to an early Christmas present and your alloys were on the shopping list to be honest!
Title: Re: Stolen wheel bolts.
Post by: lee_ on December 08, 2011, 06:59:08 pm
You sure they're being stolen and not falling out?

What are you torquing them up to?
Title: Re: Stolen wheel bolts.
Post by: Phil Miller on December 08, 2011, 07:31:25 pm
They should be torqued to 110 nm, I doubt they have fallen out I'm with the op that someone took a fancy to them
Title: Re: Stolen wheel bolts.
Post by: GEE on December 08, 2011, 08:20:46 pm
I am pretty sure that they were stolen. 3 gone from one wheel. I had the alloys refurbed about 4 months ago by a proper place, so I assuming they did them up correctly.
Plus, the area that I work in has its fare share of criminals.

any ideas to my question anyone?
Title: Re: Stolen wheel bolts.
Post by: bacillus on December 08, 2011, 08:25:40 pm
I would like a set of 20 of them so that none of them can be stolen in the future.
Is it possible to get a set of 20 which all only need one key. As far as I can see they only sell them in packs of 4 and each pack has a separate key.

The McGard Ultra 28018SL are the correct fitment but afaik you should only use one locking nut per wheel...
Title: Re: Stolen wheel bolts.
Post by: RSam84 on December 08, 2011, 08:41:42 pm
yeah its not recomended to use a locking nut in every single nut though.
Title: Re: Stolen wheel bolts.
Post by: 182_blue on December 08, 2011, 08:50:56 pm
I am pretty sure that they were stolen. 3 gone from one wheel. I had the alloys refurbed about 4 months ago by a proper place, so I assuming they did them up correctly.
Plus, the area that I work in has its fare share of criminals.

any ideas to my question anyone?
Never assume  :happy2:
Title: Re: Stolen wheel bolts.
Post by: GEE on December 08, 2011, 09:03:57 pm
why is it not recommended to use a locking nut in every single one?
Title: Re: Stolen wheel bolts.
Post by: bacillus on December 08, 2011, 09:07:49 pm
why is it not recommended to use a locking nut in every single one?
you don't normally torque the locking bolt as tightly as the normal one so it's a safey issue.
Title: Re: Stolen wheel bolts.
Post by: GEE on December 08, 2011, 10:10:37 pm
ok,  so would it damage the locking bolts if i tightened them up to the same degree as a normal bolt?
Title: Re: Stolen wheel bolts.
Post by: vRSAlex on December 08, 2011, 10:30:04 pm
ok,  so would it damage the locking bolts if i tightened them up to the same degree as a normal bolt?

Nope.  Never had an issue.  I think the bolts have just fallen out due to the painting and paint maybe being left in the holes.
Title: Re: Stolen wheel bolts.
Post by: mb on December 09, 2011, 04:59:23 am
I would say they have just fallen out as I found a couple of loose bolts a few weeks after having a tyre repaired
Title: Re: Stolen wheel bolts.
Post by: gaz b on December 09, 2011, 07:46:50 am
When i needed a full set of bolts i just asked my local vw garage who gave me them free.  :happy2:

I would suspect that if they have been stolen its a one off. Defo not something you hear of everyday!  :surprised:

Somebody once stole the electric mirror glasses off of my brothers transit. Pure one off.....
Title: Re: Stolen wheel bolts.
Post by: monte on December 09, 2011, 09:19:05 am
I would never use 20 mcgard locking bolts!

I used one set (1bolt per wheel) and I had a nightmare trying to release one of them. It was so tight that it damaged the locking key.
I eventually managed to reshape the key with a dremel and then I hammered it onto the bolt. I then took off all the mcgard bolts and used another brand!



Title: Re: Stolen wheel bolts.
Post by: will130787 on December 09, 2011, 09:38:46 am
Dont use lockers all the way round, just  per wheel as said. They are not designed to be tightened as much as the normal bolts! Worst case is that the bolts get nicked again but getting the wheels (obviously the expensive bit) off will be a lot harder!
Title: Re: Stolen wheel bolts.
Post by: GEE on December 09, 2011, 05:29:42 pm
ok, thanks for your advice people. I will prob now only use one locking bolt per wheel and hope no more go missing.
ps... If McGuard ultras are a bit a nightmare, which other ones would you recommend instead?
Title: Re: Stolen wheel bolts.
Post by: robby on December 09, 2011, 06:17:36 pm
Do you have the plastic covers on your bolts? Did the remaining 2 bolts still have the covers on?

Thieves remove the bolts then come back for the wheels later so they can throw them straight into a car/ van - happened to my sisters car
Title: Re: Stolen wheel bolts.
Post by: GEE on December 09, 2011, 07:18:14 pm
yeah i have plastic covers on my bolts.
the remaining two bolts did have their covers on. do you think that means that they were more likely to have been left loose and fallen out rather than stolen?
Title: Re: Stolen wheel bolts.
Post by: robby on December 09, 2011, 07:52:36 pm
yeah i have plastic covers on my bolts.
the remaining two bolts did have their covers on. do you think that means that they were more likely to have been left loose and fallen out rather than stolen?

Possibly?
I guess if the missing bolts + covers weren't near the car then they could have fallen out, if a thief had removed them they would probably leave them nearby (maybe thrown over a wall)?