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Title: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: donovan2123 on December 22, 2011, 07:35:50 am
As above.

I'm currently around 29mpg at stage 2+  was 35 in summer.

Also anyone noticed more of a mpg drop since having decat?
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: itismebigd on December 22, 2011, 08:21:15 am
Yep same here strange how that happens,suppose its down to running more petrol sapping eliments,heater,demister,wipers i normally seen about 38mpg but now roughly 31 ish lol im at stage 2 ko3  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: rich83 on December 22, 2011, 09:21:48 am
Its more to do with the cold dense air... more air=more fuel= less MPG

On a 190mile run yesterday I got about 28.5mpg... but I wasn't hanging around.
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: Matto on December 22, 2011, 09:25:41 am
I had a reasonably steady commute to work yesterday and saw 56.8 mpg. Mostly national speed limit A roads with a few 30's in there aswell.
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: rich83 on December 22, 2011, 09:36:35 am
I had a reasonably steady commute to work yesterday and saw 56.8 mpg. Mostly national speed limit A roads with a few 30's in there aswell.

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 :signLOL: :signLOL:
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on December 22, 2011, 09:52:35 am

Love cold dense air = more power  :evilgrin:
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: Matto on December 22, 2011, 10:12:32 am
I had a reasonably steady commute to work yesterday and saw 56.8 mpg. Mostly national speed limit A roads with a few 30's in there aswell.

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 :signLOL: :signLOL:

Haha  :P
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: Horatio on December 22, 2011, 10:17:54 am
You'll get slightly more fuel as well when filling up when its cold, as the fuel contracts.   :rolleye:
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: Kregiel on December 22, 2011, 10:20:44 am
i got 33 mpg today while commuting on a 15 mile distance, but it's balmy 12 degrees in Dublin, when close to zero It would be 28mpg ca
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: CupraNigel on December 22, 2011, 11:11:07 am
I get an average of around 30 in mine, 20 mile trip with mostly motorway @ 70(ish)

Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on December 22, 2011, 11:15:46 am
I get an average of around 30 in mine, 20 mile trip with mostly motorway @ 70(ish)



Nottingham - Doncaster, 65 on M1.  36avg, pleasantly surprised :)
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: rich83 on December 22, 2011, 11:18:49 am
I get an average of around 30 in mine, 20 mile trip with mostly motorway @ 70(ish)



Nottingham - Doncaster, 65 on M1.  36avg, pleasantly surprised :)

You can't drive a stage 2+ car at 65MPH...  :stupid:
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on December 22, 2011, 11:20:05 am
I get an average of around 30 in mine, 20 mile trip with mostly motorway @ 70(ish)



Nottingham - Doncaster, 65 on M1.  36avg, pleasantly surprised :)

You can't drive a stage 2+ car at 65MPH...  :stupid:

Baby Harry and pooch winston said I had to lol  :wink:
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on December 22, 2011, 11:21:22 am
I get an average of around 30 in mine, 20 mile trip with mostly motorway @ 70(ish)



Nottingham - Doncaster, 65 on M1.  36avg, pleasantly surprised :)

You can't drive a stage 2+ car at 65MPH...  :stupid:

Baby Harry and pooch winston said I had to lol  :wink:

And no longer having non DVLA / diplomatic plates  :sad1:
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: rich83 on December 22, 2011, 11:23:46 am
 :signLOL:
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: sub39h on December 22, 2011, 12:09:53 pm
Its more to do with the cold dense air... more air=more fuel= more power=less throttle less MPG

^hence why i never understood the above as an explanation
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: swgti on December 22, 2011, 07:29:12 pm
Mine only does a 8 mile windy trip most mornings to work and have noticed a drop from about 29 down to 27.
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: Beddie on December 22, 2011, 07:48:34 pm
Averaging 28 as usual through the winter compared to 32 in the warmer months which is to be expected really  :smiley:

Longer on cold start / rich running due to cold temps
Tyre pressures drop in the cold increasing rolling resistance
Extra frictional losses due to all the fluids, oils and greases in the car becoming less viscous
Increased electrical load (heated seats, rear screen, lights etc) increasing the mpg
More aerodynamic drag on the car due to the increased density of the colder air

Winter sucks but cold dense air is officially turbocharger approved...  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: JoeDarKa on December 22, 2011, 09:16:59 pm
I hit 72 mpg on the way to work today  :laugh:  :jumpmove:

Thats a derv for you!
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: alackofspeed on December 22, 2011, 11:32:30 pm
Its more to do with the cold dense air... more air=more fuel= more power=less throttle less MPG

^hence why i never understood the above as an explanation

As I understand it, low temp fuel consumption is typically higher due to prolonged warm-up increasing the duration of cold temp enrichment, combined with poorer part throttle fuel atomisation when at normal water / oil temperature due to the lower air temp. Perhaps there are also very slightly increased pumping loses due to a marginally narrower throttle opening for a given crank torque / power. On top of that there are the other factors mentioned above - increased electrical load, mechanical friction losses, and other parasitic losses.

Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: Little_Dave on December 23, 2011, 04:51:55 pm
Was shocked to get an average 33mpg on a 160mile round trip peaking at 39mpg for a while yesterday!!!  :wink: never seen it average above 30 before or seen figures over 34 at any speed lol

Dave
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: Mk5 GTian on December 25, 2011, 09:43:09 pm
I reckon I'm getting an average of about 29 at the moment, but that includes a lot of stop/start around suburbia. I'm gonna try turning the climate off once I'm demisted, and see if that makes a difference.
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: NotNormal on December 26, 2011, 05:04:28 pm
My average per tank has gone down to 33.6mpg .....

..... Not bad for a 3.0 twin turbo diesel  :happy2: :party:

Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: rich83 on December 27, 2011, 03:24:24 pm
My average per tank has gone down to 33.6mpg .....

..... Not bad for a 3.0 twin turbo diesel  :happy2: :party:



What car is that on? 123D?
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: NotNormal on December 27, 2011, 09:43:37 pm
What car is that on? 123D?

Nah, it's my 335d coupe .... 3.0 ..... The 123d is a 2.0 twin turbo  :smiley:
Title: Re: Whats your winter mpg
Post by: rich83 on December 27, 2011, 09:45:28 pm
What car is that on? 123D?

Nah, it's my 335d coupe .... 3.0 ..... The 123d is a 2.0 twin turbo  :smiley:


Doh... of course it is. Thats pretty good MPG for that engine and power.  :happy2: