MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: stu_no_1 on December 22, 2011, 12:52:27 pm
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I will be getting my cloth recaros retrimmed next year and I want to buy the heating elements and fit them at the same time. I've heard there is problem with the kufatec loom being lhd if u have a later car, but what if I bought the heating elements to fit a 54plate and the loom for earlier models would this be a lot easier to fit. Also is the heating element the same in the standard seats as the recaros. Hopefully someone can help as there has been people try to do this before on here.
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The running in of either loom is the same.
The later loom being for LHD isn't a problem as such, more of an inconvenience.
If you have a soldering gun and a few metre's of suitable wiring to extend three wires, along with an hour of your time then it'd make the loom good for RHD.
Although being able to use an earlier loom would save you doing this and would be the easiest route to take.
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The running in of either loom is the same.
The later loom being for LHD isn't a problem as such, more of an inconvenience.
If you have a soldering gun and a few metre's of suitable wiring to extend three wires, along with an hour of your time then it'd make the loom good for RHD.
Although being able to use an earlier loom would save you doing this and would be the easiest route to take.
I can't see why you need to extend the looms, on the newer seats take the control box and loom off the passenger seat and swop it with the drivers seat.
As you are making the seats opt for the pre 2006 this requires 2x relay controllers compared to the newer one which does both seats
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this is the type required for both seats
http://www.ebay.de/itm/VW-EOS-Touareg-Golf-5-Touran-Steuergerat-Sitzheizung-/370566226803?pt=DE_Autoteile&hash=item564777e373
this is the one used on newer seats and does both seats
http://www.ebay.de/itm/VW-Audi-PAssat-3AA-3C-Golf-Steuergerat-Sitzheizung-/350501556215?pt=DE_Autoteile&hash=item519b854ff7
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That way would work too, Ed. Have you tried it?
Guess you'd only have to swap the pins going into heater controls.
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That way would work too, Ed. Have you tried it?
Guess you'd only have to swap the pins going into heater controls.
I fitted some 2008MY seats in a members 2004 car last sunday. That is how I know it works and yes I did have to swop 2 wires in the climatic control unit
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I'm looking or the easiest way to fit them and I'd rather not have to extend wires as Im not sure how to go about it . I'm not limited in anyway by seats as I already have my seats so I can buy what ever heating element that is easier to fit so does anybody know part numbers of these
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use the 2x Relay option and loom from kufatec for pre 2006 seats
You will also need some looms for the seats
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Does anybody know what part number for the heating elements on pre 06 cars
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On the vw golf mk5 the heater element is part of the seat cover. You would do better to buy the mk4 heated seat elements
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-Golf-Bora-Heated-Seats-Seat-Heating-Elements-x-2-/360123554207?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item53d909599f
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Are you sure I'm sure I seen the elements on Etka on their own a while back but not looked in ages. Will the mk 4 ones work with the mk5 wiring
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Yes, looks like you are correct. They are available. I know normal seats have the element as part of the seat cover.
the parts for the recaros are
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1120.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl483%2FEddie-GT%2Fetkaseats.jpg&hash=eabf26fb93120372e352ddb58720d7f305bd9ef1)
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So now the question is are they elements for a 2007 car the same as a 2004 is it just a different control module in the later cars
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So now the question is are they elements for a 2007 car the same as a 2004 is it just a different control module in the later cars
heating pads are the same, the difference is the control unit and the looms
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u seem to be good with etka so what part numbers do i need
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looks to me like i need these parts i got the control module one from that ebay add but on that etka screen this is the same part it says the 2007 car needs
7L0 959 772 D control module
1k0 963 555 G bottom and sides
1k0 963 557 R Backrest
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The control module is correct as it was upto the change date, remember you need 2 of them
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it says quantity 2 on the etka page does the mean that the part number comes with 2
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it says quantity 2 on the etka page does the mean that the part number comes with 2
No, you don't get two, but you need two
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ok so will i need to order 2 of the heating element part numbers aswell because they say quantity 2 aswell
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yes
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so is that all the parts i need from vw then the rest from kufatec and ill source a climate conrtol unit btw does it matter that mine says econ and ones on ebay say ac \
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Hi
I would stick with a panel that has ECON. You will still need to make or buy a loom that goes from the seat base to the floor
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so where do you buy a loom that goes from the seat to the floor does this not come with the heating elements
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so where do you buy a loom that goes from the seat to the floor does this not come with the heating elements
No
You will have to find someone who has heated seats and get them to look at their seat wiring loom for a part number or at the VW dealer using a VIN number from a car with heated seats
looks like this
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VW-GOLF-MK5-SEAT-WIRING-LOOM-1K0971365CA-NEW-VW-PART-/130559317262?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item1e65f1150e
but he doesn't have it listed for heated seats although it has lumber support
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ok ill need one that just has the seat heating because i dont have the seat occupied feature like that ebay ad so would i need someones vin number that has leather or heated recaros
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ideally yes, probably a hard one to find. You can always strip the loom of what you don't need
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ill just get over on the r32oc there are plenty of cars with recaros in them and my car is an r32 anyway
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Hi
I would stick with a panel that has ECON. You will still need to make or buy a loom that goes from the seat base to the floor
Just wondering if there's any reason to stay with an ECON panel? I went from an ECON to AC and it seems to be ok?
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does the ac button stay lit when the ac is on or is it like the econ one when its lit ac is off
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I'm refering to the 2-zone climate panel
It is to do with the operation of the flaps.
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The Econ and A/C panels do the exact same thing just a different way round you press the Econ button to turn the A/C off whereas you press the A/C button to turn it on.
The panels are exacty the same
Darren
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The Econ and A/C panels do the exact same thing just a different way round you press the Econ button to turn the A/C off whereas you press the A/C button to turn it on.
The panels are exacty the same
Darren
I know seank who was a member on here had an ECON panel and when he fitted his heated seat he had one with AC and his flaps didn't work properly after. (a bit like when you fit the mk6 climate on an early car)
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Before I had the mk6 panel I went from Econ to A/C and it was fine for 2 years until I put the mk6 panel in. did Sean do the flap end basic reset?
Darren
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I can see my opinion doesn't count, so I will leave it there
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:ashamed: ??
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Hope you've not taken offence Ed just my findings, Your opinion is always appreciated mate.
Darren
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^^^^Same here, Ed.
I was just making sure my ECON>AC swap was actually ok and it wasn't just my wishful thinking. :drinking:
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Come on Ed we all appriecate your input :love:
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ok just got my mate at tps to check the part numbers for this and its coming back at 192.97 per seat!!!! im guessing everyone who has retrofitted these bought seats that already had heating is there any other options for me as this is not cost effective do the mk 4 elements work with mk 5 wiring i thinkg they are about 70 quid a pair