MK5 Golf GTI
General => Random Chat => Topic started by: Janner_Sy on December 24, 2011, 11:19:06 pm
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Might well be a pea roast but i can't believe how close this is. Meganne 20hp down, manual but 100kg lighter
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I'd still take the Golf though. :wink:
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Golf R has the power sapping haldex.
I has a go with a golf R when mine was on the stock map and there was nothing in it.
I'm with hedge, I'd take the golf.
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Have a drive of a megane and you will change your mind. Awesome bits of kit. Interior is a huge improvement on older ones. Nice place to be.
Id have the megane. Would rather a rocco r though
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I bet I can't get in a Megane. :laugh:
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If I wanted a car to spank around a track, yes. But for everyday comfort, I think the golf would be better.
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Oh no! not another Megane thread. :rolleye: :xmassmiley:
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Before this hits page 14.... lets sort this out now.
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Rocco R for the win :driver:
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Is the Rocco much lighter than the Golf?
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I'd take the golf.
If I was having a track day I'd take the meganne (for the day) based on all the great feedback it gets but I'd never in a million years consider owning one
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Is the Rocco much lighter than the Golf?
About 150kg iirc, can't be bothered to look it up.
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Golf r for me, Meg is an awesome car for a fwd hatch but if you want a fast track car buy a 2k 172 that your not bothered about putting on its roof, Renaultsport are toning them down IMO, the meg trophy is a 250 with a few little tweaks, gone are the days of v6 engines clios , clios with 4k dampers on, stripping out meganes with cages.... What we get know is a car that wants to be like a golf to sell more units.
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I had the Megane on a 3+ day test drive, awesome car, great road manners, loads of power, but as others have said, I just couldn't put £25k of my own money into one!
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Id have a preowned rocco R for the daily grind and a cheap as chips motor sport renault on slicks!
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not sure about a factory PQ35 chassis car with 265bhp and no Haldex tho... PVW did a back to back test of the Rocco and Golf and preferred the Golf iirc
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not sure about a factory PQ35 chassis car with 265bhp and no Haldex tho... PVW did a back to back test of the Rocco and Golf and preferred the Golf iirc
Doesnt seemed to have harmed the Cupra R and the countless GTis/ED30 running that power and beyond... :wink:
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hence why i said factory PQ35 car. the kind of person that's running Stage 2+ will also have sticky tyres, WALK, possibly an LSD etc. etc.
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Talking from previous experience I wouldn't own a French car if you donated it to me!
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hence why i said factory PQ35 car. the kind of person that's running Stage 2+ will also have sticky tyres, WALK, possibly an LSD etc. etc.
Only need Stage 1 on an ED30/Cupra for that sort of power and i run mine without sticky tyres / LSD etc without driving into a hedge every day...
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hence why i said factory PQ35 car. the kind of person that's running Stage 2+ will also have sticky tyres, WALK, possibly an LSD etc. etc.
Only need Stage 1 on an ED30/Cupra for that sort of power and i run mine without sticky tyres / LSD etc without driving into a hedge every day...
2nd that... :driver:
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But think how much more off the power you can use with a diff :driver: so much more control
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But think how much more off the power you can use with a diff :driver: so much more control
nah.... its more fun when the front end is grappling for grip. :signLOL:
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Yeah I had fun driving mine like that for years
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hence why i said factory PQ35 car. the kind of person that's running Stage 2+ will also have sticky tyres, WALK, possibly an LSD etc. etc.
Only need Stage 1 on an ED30/Cupra for that sort of power and i run mine without sticky tyres / LSD etc without driving into a hedge every day...
not suggesting you do drive into a hedge every day. i assume that you're a good driver, and use the power when appropriate.
BUT at the end of the day the only manufacturer i'd trust to put more than about 250bhp through the front wheels only is Ford. just my opinion is all.
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Had a couple of Renault Sports in my time and they have been some great interesting fun rides
VW all the way for me thou ........ build , sophistication and VW culture....awesome vehicles!
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hence why i said factory PQ35 car. the kind of person that's running Stage 2+ will also have sticky tyres, WALK, possibly an LSD etc. etc.
Only need Stage 1 on an ED30/Cupra for that sort of power and i run mine without sticky tyres / LSD etc without driving into a hedge every day...
not suggesting you do drive into a hedge every day. i assume that you're a good driver, and use the power when appropriate.
BUT at the end of the day the only manufacturer i'd trust to put more than about 250bhp through the front wheels only is Ford. just my opinion is all.
Yeh because VW are so incapable of engineering a solution for a 250hp+ fwd car unlike Ford who steal from Renault engineer there own solutions like Revo Knuckle :confused: :rolleye:
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If this was the case there would have been a court case.
Also in fairness you can be certain ALL manufacturers reverse engineer all the competitors carsto ensure they stay competitive
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If this was the case there would have been a court case.
Also in fairness you can be certain ALL manufacturers reverse engineer all the competitors carsto ensure they stay competitive
Only trusting Ford is a weird statement to make when everything is reverse engineered but etto.
Putting 250+hp through the front wheels and controling it is hardly rocket science even i managed it so im pretty sure VW could :grin:
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If this was the case there would have been a court case.
Also in fairness you can be certain ALL manufacturers reverse engineer all the competitors carsto ensure they stay competitive
Only trusting Ford is a weird statement to make when everything is reverse engineered but etto.
Putting 250+hp through the front wheels and controling it is hardly putting man on the moon even i managed it so im pretty sure VW could :grin:
it was me who said i only trust Ford, not Janner. yes things are reverse engineered but they don't straight copy each other because of costs etc. some examples:
PQ35 cars have 4 link rear suspension, the Mk2 Focus had 5 link, the Civic has a torsion beam, as did the last Megane iirc so very different set ups.
i'm not doubting that VW have the capability, but they are limited by the bean counters wanting to make a car that is as profitable as possible. hence why we modify our cars to improve traction and handling.
my point is as a general rule of thumb if i was choosing two factory spec FWD cars and for arguments sake they both had more than about 250bhp and one was a Ford and one was a VAG car then the Ford is likely to handle better.
you can unpick what i said to death, but the above sentence was all i'm trying to say. feel free to agree or disagree.
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If you only trust Ford to put more than 250hp through the front wheels then etto :drinking: But most manufactures could manage it excluding Vauxhall of course :driver: :grin:
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Been in few meganes before, bit Chavvy, would take the Golf personally
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Been in few meganes before, bit Chavvy, would take the Golf personally
I'm not trying to defend the meg here, because as I have said I would prefer the golf, but round here golf r's are ten a penny and driven by very Chavy people. The meg is not a car that appeals to posers, golfs sadly do, German init
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Been in few meganes before, bit Chavvy, would take the Golf personally
are you being serious !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Been in few meganes before, bit Chavvy, would take the Golf personally
are you being serious !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree. I've seen all sorts of creatures driving Golfs, particularly here it the North West. When I see a Renaultsport car I always assume its someone who is quite serious about performance, and who are willing to compromise on comfort and image for it.