MK5 Golf GTI

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Title: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: am1w on December 31, 2011, 09:02:06 pm
How often have you been blinded by these? I've lost count.
Those self-levelling systems simply don't seem to work on undulating roads. Also, many of these lights are badly adjusted.

Read this:
http://www.blindedbixenon.co.uk/

If I had the power, I'd ban the bloody things. Unfortunately, the 'bloody things' are rather tasty looking and light-up the road brilliantly. Great for pothole avoidance at night.
Title: Re: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: divweir on December 31, 2011, 09:21:09 pm
total agree they do blind you maybe because I don't have them I don't like them.  don't do to much nite time driving so don't need them
Title: Re: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: am1w on December 31, 2011, 09:43:33 pm
total agree they do blind you maybe because I don't have them I don't like them.  don't do to much nite time driving so don't need them

I don't have them either as I don't do much night time driving. Prefer comfortable evenings at home with a glass of Port.

However, the Mk6 boys/gals on the 'other' place, the name of which escapes me for now, feel that any car without such an enhancement is a fate worse than death!
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: damoegan on December 31, 2011, 10:02:10 pm
I've got them and they are truley awesome for lighting the road ahead  :driver:
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: Oli on December 31, 2011, 10:06:55 pm
I honestly wouldn't have a car without them - and I never get flashed.
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: apples12 on December 31, 2011, 10:16:04 pm
I agree with Oli...

drive a car with xenon headlights at night for a good length of time and going back to halogen headlights will be like someone switched the lights off...

i agree improperly aimed headlights are a hazard...but its taking it a bit far to say flatout that bixenons are dangerous! take a drive around birmingham at dark and you'll lose count of the number of idiots with misaligned HALOGEN headlights who glare drivers, these eejits cause as much of a hazard to other road users as improperly aimed bixenons/xenon headlamps do...

just my 2cents...

Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: am1w on December 31, 2011, 10:17:44 pm
I rather love the way they dance when they activate. Must admit I love the 'bloody things'.
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: RobH on December 31, 2011, 10:30:36 pm
I have never been flashed in over 3 years and wouldnt have a car without them again either. The hid lights on the other hand piss me off to no end :fighting:
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: am1w on December 31, 2011, 10:39:14 pm
I have never been flashed in over 3 years and wouldnt have a car without them again either. The hid lights on the other hand piss me off to no end :fighting:

+1
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: 182_blue on December 31, 2011, 10:42:39 pm
Zenons are OK it's those damn HiD kits and fog light users that do my eyes !!!
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: Moschops on December 31, 2011, 10:45:58 pm
Zenons are OK it's those damn HiD kits and fog light users that do my eyes !!!

Bloody fogs = chav light charlies... :xmassmiley:

I wouldn't have another car without Xenons either.. :notworthy:
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: sub39h on December 31, 2011, 11:45:32 pm
My parents' car has directional xenons. They live out in the countryside and the illumination is 2nd to none. I live in the city so I don't really need them, but if I lived somewhere with poor or no street lights I wouldn't drive a car without them

I agree with the above, xenons aren't generally a problem. HIDs on the other hand grind my gears. Seems to be a lot of people around my parts who have them. I'm not sure it lights up the road any better for them, and makes it a hell of a lot more dangerous for everyone else
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: Squeeguk on January 01, 2012, 11:43:40 am
They would be doing more of a service educating people how and when to use driving lights, rather than having none on or driving with virtually invisible side lights, now those are the real idiots.

Having said that, I think Xenon's correctly fitted and aligned are a great safety feature on dark unlit roads.
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: Nodz on January 01, 2012, 12:21:00 pm
Nothing against xenons except I don't have them  :signLOL:

Just got a thing against misaligned headlights, drivers who like the side lights on and in various different colours including red with front fogs on rather than headlights, People who use rear fog lights all the time or when it rains, people who don't turn full beam off on country lanes when approaching other traffic and people with half the lamps out on their car  :fighting: :fighting:

I think thats all my bug bears when it comes to lights  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: rich83 on January 01, 2012, 12:36:27 pm
Cheap HID kits in reflector headlights are what will blind you the most. They scatter light everywhere.

Mk4 golf owners love them!
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: rdfcpete on January 01, 2012, 02:09:20 pm
I honestly wouldn't have a car without them - and I never get flashed.

+1
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: Poverty on January 01, 2012, 03:35:34 pm
I get flashed all the time, people think I have my main beams on, they then drive behind me and put on their main beams, or cars opposite of the junction put on their main beams, its doing my head in. The car goes through its self adjusting procedure but seems to be angling them up too high.

Gonna try and adjust em somehow, if not means a trip audi.

The only benefit of the dazzling is that people quickly get out of my way  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: rich83 on January 01, 2012, 04:52:26 pm
The only time i get flashed is on long sweeping left hand corners where the kicked up beam is pointing towards the oncoming traffic.
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: Top Cat on January 01, 2012, 05:31:31 pm
I have found that in the winter i get dazzled a lot, discovered it was my own fault. I found that a dirt film on my own side window and screen was causing the light to dazzle.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: am1w on January 02, 2012, 01:51:24 pm
Was patiently waiting at a bus stop on High Street Kensington and started counting how many cars had Xenons and which ones seemed a bit off. Out of 100 cars, only 8 had Xenons and out of these 8 cars, 3 blinded me. Oh, I was sitting down and  freezing.
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: sub39h on January 02, 2012, 02:40:02 pm
Was patiently waiting at a bus stop on High Street Kensington and started counti ng how many cars had Xenons and which ones seemed a bit off. Out of 100 cars, only 8had Xenons and out of these 8 cars, 3 blinded me. Oh, I was sitting down and  freezing.

but the patter of the beam is not uniform so your observation won't be directly applicable to a driving situation. i think the nearside of the car has a higher light intensity than the offside, to avoid blinding drivers coming the other way. kinda like this:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F4%2F48%2FLow_beam_light_pattern_for_right-hand_traffic.svg%2F500px-Low_beam_light_pattern_for_right-hand_traffic.svg.png&hash=cf53d61624808f48ffe42aac7531b2a1f9b25af2)
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: Snoopy on January 02, 2012, 03:31:56 pm
I find some cars are better than others. Most Mercs and most A4 audis seem to blind me.

I do wonder how many came out the factory with them incorrectly aimed as this was a big problem with mk5 GTI's when they were new.

HID kits just skatter the light and blind me every one i see round.
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: Squeeguk on January 02, 2012, 04:02:45 pm
Well this thread made me go and double check my light settings at the Kwikfit MOT down the road, and all is well. Lights are set perfectly according to the MOT regs. Excellent. I hate being blinded myself, especially as my eyesight is marginal anyways, lol.
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: am1w on January 02, 2012, 04:39:33 pm
I find some cars are better than others. Most Mercs and most A4 audis seem to blind me.

I do wonder how many came out the factory with them incorrectly aimed as this was a big problem with mk5 GTI's when they were new.

HID kits just skatter the light and blind me every one i see round.


You're on the money! 2 were A4s and the other one a C Class Merc! Oh, there was a Mk4 Golf with Halogens which though badly out of kilter, did not blind me too badly.

I do love Xenons. It was because of my ignorance and mean streak that I did not factory order the beauties. Two guys on the Mk6 section on the 'other' forum changed their Xenonless cars for a Xenon fested night life. I'll try and not be that extreme.
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: Golfgirl on January 02, 2012, 05:05:03 pm
I kept getting flashed when I first had my car.  It got taken back to VW three times for re-levelling before they got it right.  Now I get the occasional flash usually because the oncoming car has caught them at the wrong angle as I'm going round a bend.  It's always non-xenon drivers that flash me too. 

I will never buy a car without xenons again.  I do a lot of driving in the dark due to my shift times and live semi-rurally so now I've had them I'd never be without them.  They really do turn night into day and I love them.
Title: Re: Blinding Bi-Xenons/Xenons
Post by: Golfgirl on January 02, 2012, 05:06:29 pm
Cheap HID kits in reflector headlights are what will blind you the most. They scatter light everywhere.

Mk4 golf owners love them!

Yep, there's one in particular that I often see on my way or way home from work and his are REALLY bright.