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General => Random Chat => Topic started by: candy turbo on January 18, 2012, 07:02:57 pm
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been looking at a rocco r , its a 2011 2.0tsi r got a few questions ...
1, is the engine the 2.0 tfsi from ed 30\s3 re named tsi
2, has there been any modification to the clutch\flywheel or is it still made of rice pudding like ed30\s3
3, it has a "diff lock "is this a limited slip diff
4, any one whos got one , any comments
cheers :happy2:
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It's no Renault :wink:
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Its s effectively an S3 engine with TSI written on the engine cover.
It hasn't got a diff lock, it has 'XDS' which effectively tries to emulate a mechanical LSD by braking which ever wheel haslost traction.
Personally I think its crap and justs causes heat issues with the brakes fadibg on track.
Drives much better than the Golf I think. I really like them
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Its s effectively an S3 engine with TSI written on the engine cover.
It hasn't got a diff lock, it has 'XDS' which effectively tries to emulate a mechanical LSD by braking which ever wheel haslost traction.
Personally I think its crap and justs causes heat issues with the brakes fadibg on track.
Drives much better than the Golf I think. I really like them
Perhaps PM Chungster and ask his opinion :happy2:
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It's no Renault :wink:
no its not your right ! nothing like the renault to drive its not a performance car for sure but it drives well and i can get it at a very good price
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Wouldnt say it's not a performance car mate, not driven one but I'm a big fan, on paper they sound great and look pretty cool
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Have we really gotta go there again Ian?
You bored with the Frenchie already? :rolleye:
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i thought this was a forum , i came on here to ask a vag related question and all i get bullsh*t comments
no the megane is still brilliant but i like to swap cars
for those who actually own vw s thanks for your comments , bit disapointed the R doesnt have a lsd and jhtrophy it is a fast street car but not a track\ perfomance coupe i m now used to if i was doing 100 miles of motorway i d take the rocco 100 miles of a+b roads i d take the meg
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My next car will be either a Meganne RS, Focus RS or Scirocco Type R. Probably in that order of merit.
Watching vids on youtube the frs and rocco r are pretty hard fo split. But the general idea I get from every vid is the meganne has the best chassis of the bunch but the worst engine. Not saying its bad, but they all rate the other engines as better
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So your allowed to come on here and wind people up, but people can't do the same to you?
All harmless fun Ian!
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How is the Rocco R not a performance coupe?
It has 265hp and does 0-60 in 5.?? seconds, what exactly makes a performance coupe then Mr Candy or was it just another cheap dig at a vag car that isnt as track orientated as that french sh*tter that holds the land speed record on the nurburgring :stupid:
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Candy mate I don't know how you have got yourself in this situation On here but it is a performance car obviously, the meg is not a track car, it is like the roco a hot hatch all be it with a better chassis that you would notice on a track if you were a very accomplished driver.
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Candy stop being knob end as its just a car we all have em the meg is no race car it's a hatch back like the rocco it's no better and you will only get rid of it after 10 min of ownership so just buy what you want and dont bother us with any of it as it gets old very quickly
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i thought this was a forum , i came on here to ask a vag related question and all i get bullsh*t comments
no the megane is still brilliant but i like to swap cars
for those who actually own vw s thanks for your comments , bit disapointed the R doesnt have a lsd and jhtrophy it is a fast street car but not a track\ perfomance coupe i m now used to if i was doing 100 miles of motorway i d take the rocco 100 miles of a+b roads i d take the meg
or perhaps go drive one, use your own oppinion to make the decision yourself..
Nice to see you have buckets of cash still spare as you'll need at least 10k plus your Renault for a good spec Rocco..
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A rocco R with light mods lapped a german racetrack quicker than a 997 GT3
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A rocco R with light mods lapped a german racetrack quicker than a 997 GT3
Candy isnt gonna like that mate especially from something thats a "quick street car" :grin:
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I know of a Rocco R that lapped Castle Combe faster than a TTRS :wink:
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I know of a Rocco R that lapped Castle Combe faster than a TTRS :wink:
Yeah but the TTRS was parked up in the car park!
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i thought this was a forum , i came on here to ask a vag related question and all i get bullsh*t comments
no the megane is still brilliant but i like to swap cars
for those who actually own vw s thanks for your comments , bit disapointed the R doesnt have a lsd and jhtrophy it is a fast street car but not a track\ perfomance coupe i m now used to if i was doing 100 miles of motorway i d take the rocco 100 miles of a+b roads i d take the meg
or perhaps go drive one, use your own oppinion to make the decision yourself..
Nice to see you have buckets of cash still spare as you'll need at least 10k plus your Renault for a good spec Rocco..
have driven it steve , it does drive really well , used car prices are knackered mate rocco s in real prices are about £26k with no p\x i can get this one for not much over £20k thats why i looked at it , my mate has just brought 4 vw ex demo s at the right money
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I know of a Rocco R that lapped Castle Combe faster than a TTRS :wink:
Yeah but the TTRS was parked up in the car park!
Nope. :popcornsoda:
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Oh you mean the TTRS that blew the boost hoses off its intercooler and the rocco still couldn't get past :signLOL:
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I didn't say it could overtake just lapped faster. :innocent:
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i started this thread not to wind any one up but to find out if i was taking a backwards step , if the rocco R is basically a mapped ed30 as the old skool ones of you will know ive been there, loved the car but sold due to traction issues moved on to the s3 and had clutch problems , so thats where my questions come from , my previous experiences
matt , sorry if swapping my car s affends you but now ive got a good supplier i dont seem to be loosing much so much cash so i change when i get the urge or a good deal comes up :laugh:
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It does not offend me at all as I buy loads of cars too I just don't ask people of I should buy I just drive it and make my own mind up :happy2:
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It does not offend me at all as I buy loads of cars too I just don't ask people of I should buy I just drive it and make my own mind up :happy2:
Then find some good lookin chap to drive it home :signLOL: I don't think you offend candy, but putting things like rocco r is not a performance car on a vag forum don't help :signLOL: but to be fair people calling a meg 250 a French sh*tter don't help :happy2:
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:signLOL: yeah you do like driving em home for me don't you :signLOL:
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If you car to look at my link regarding my rocco, you will see just how capable it is. I have it in members rides under candy white rocco, all be it the mods are very extensive but very rewarding when you can race around spa and overtake Porsche gt3 rs's and keep up with them. I believe hedge is on about my rocco at castle Combe and it lapped very well keeping also with an r8 which could only pull away on the main straight. If you look at mine you will see a link of it at spa against one of the gt3rs's. Hope this helps with decision making and it is now in having more extensive mods which should see it being even more capable. Cheers.
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:signLOL: yeah you do like driving em home for me don't you :signLOL:
Only French ens, wouldn't bother if you bought a rocco r, I hear there pants :signLOL:
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Heres the link and theres another one on link.
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^^^ thanks pal
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picked it up this morning , got it for the weekend as a try before you buy :happy2:
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If you go for it - get in touch I can do you a brilliant deal on a zorst as I need to develop one to add to our VAG range
Cheers
Nige
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BCS Automotive
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I'm still waiting for you develop one as well Nige :signLOL:
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I'm trying Luke, still trying mate.... :signLOL:
Glad to hear you've still got yours :happy2:
Nige
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If your struggling, it may be worth a post on either scirocco central or scirocco net to generate a bit more interest.
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If you go for it - get in touch I can do you a brilliant deal on a zorst as I need to develop one to add to our VAG range
Cheers
Nige
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BCS Automotive
What sort of deal is on offer as my mate is having all sorts of issues with his VWR Milltek and is not happy with it!
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picked it up this morning , got it for the weekend as a try before you buy :happy2:
Thoughts so far?
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picked it up this morning , got it for the weekend as a try before you buy :happy2:
Thoughts so far?
:popcornsoda:
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im quite impressed with it so far , only done about 100 miles today and the weather is pants , i could compare it to the megane but will only get shot down on here :laugh:
if your interested the only thing it does better than the meg is the engine , not performance wise it just feels stronger but i would have predicted that any way , traction was a worry for me but the rocco is improved over the mapped ed30 but not a patch on the rs 250
sy , my car list is same as yours , focus RS , megane RS, and the rocco R , ive now driven them all and IN MY OPINION the megane is all round the best drivers car of the 3 , the focus is good but i m not over keen on the looks of some parts of them , the rocco R is a great car but the suspension , brakes , steering and general feel of the megane is more sportier and much more rewarding to drive
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sy dont think your far from me if you want me to take you a blast in the RS 250 let me know
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What sort of deal is on offer as my mate is having all sorts of issues with his VWR Milltek and is not happy with it!
What issues he having mark with the VWR Milltek ??
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What sort of deal is on offer as my mate is having all sorts of issues with his VWR Milltek and is not happy with it!
What issues he having mark with the VWR Milltek ??
Pm'd you :wink:
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if your interested the only thing it does better than the meg is the engine , not performance wise it just feels stronger but i would have predicted that any way , traction was a worry for me but the rocco is improved over the mapped ed30 but not a patch on the rs 250
sy , my car list is same as yours , focus RS , megane RS, and the rocco R , ive now driven them all and IN MY OPINION the megane is all round the best drivers car of the 3 , the focus is good but i m not over keen on the looks of some parts of them , the rocco R is a great car but the suspension , brakes , steering and general feel of the megane is more sportier and much more rewarding to drive
tbh i agree with all the above as well. I like modifying so tbh, id prob end up with either the FRS or Rocco R because i know those markets alot better than i do renault.
The Focus RS looks great in certain colours. White being my favourite, followed by the blue. Not keen on any of the others.
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i know the tuning markets too, ford , my brother works for graham goode s in leicester and ive been in there demo FRS i know the vw from my past but never go mad just small but good mods
firm called RStuning in leeds do every thing renault and are suppose to be the dogs boll*&%s
still thinking about the rocco but if i decide to keep the megane will go for intercooler and map in the near future , i ve been pasenger in a 320 bhp meg and they are awesome , i live in ashby de la zouch not far from you
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If you go for it - get in touch I can do you a brilliant deal on a zorst as I need to develop one to add to our VAG range
Cheers
Nige
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BCS Automotive
What sort of deal is on offer as my mate is having all sorts of issues with his VWR Milltek and is not happy with it!
Any one that lets us use their car to develop a new product or variant gets a 40% discount off retail.
FYI our VAG 2.0 TSi platform system is a proven product the tail pipe positioning is all we require the car for.
Cheers
Nige
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Meganne with intercooler, downpipe and remap would be awesome. Have you taken it on track yet?
If I had the megane RS id be looking at either tuning it or swapping to a FRS. The rocco would require alot of work dynamically to match them.
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been mallory and few laps of silverstone at trax
looks wise i think the meg is best with the rocco close 2 nd
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Itsa tough one. My thoughts change depending upto the angle you look at it
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Wrong interior on the Rocco R! :wink:
I'd take the Rocco all day long. But then, thats why im a dub addict.
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The interior shot of the Rocco R is wrong, all R's come with the Mk6 style interior and steering wheels etc, oh and white MFD
Hahah, beat me to it
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Still looked better either way :P
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Paul at rs tuning is a good lad and knows his stuff, although I would never map a rs, lots of effort gone into making it what it is, why spoil that? Sounds like the review of the scirocco came from evo :signLOL: I must be a crap driver cos 4 pot turbod hot hatches always feel the same to me until you can get em on track, as for the list, I would have the rocco, then meg, then if I had no choice the focus, not a fan. Seems like you love your cars candy and want to try em all, Clio v6? Or do you need rear seats?
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Paul at rs tuning is a good lad and knows his stuff, although I would never map a rs, lots of effort gone into making it what it is, why spoil that? Sounds like the review of the scirocco came from evo :signLOL: I must be a crap driver cos 4 pot turbod hot hatches always feel the same to me until you can get em on track, as for the list, I would have the rocco, then meg, then if I had no choice the focus, not a fan. Seems like you love your cars candy and want to try em all, Clio v6? Or do you need rear seats?
i do love my cars , i can get a map and cooler on the meg for £1000 , if i buy the rocco ill be spending £4k on top thats if i sell the meg for £17k , with the map and cooler the meg will be leaps and bounds ahead of the rocco , so its a no brainer really unless i wait till spring and just buy the atom i really wanted !!!
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What I don't get is you keep swapping and changing cars as obviously you generally lose money everytime you do, but in your case it doesn't make sense to me, ed30, s3, megane, frs, rocco r, they are all the same sh*te, good cars non the less but hardly a massive change or difference from what you haven't already had. Yes I've driven the megane sport, mk2 Leon Cupra, s3 etc and on the road there isn't a that much of a difference between em. What in trying to get at is instead of wasting money on hotted up hatchbacks why not get something special in the first place which you might actually hang on to for a while because it pushes all the right buttons. Right now you are just side stepping instead of upgrading when it comes to your car choices!
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^^^^ Been there done that.
Ed30 >Cayman S (offset seating position gave a really bad back so had to go)>Rocco R (Interim car whilst waiting for something special)>TTRS.
TTRS was the best, and worst car I have ever owned. The Overall package is great. But try driving it fast on UK roads. Traffic levels, other cars wanting to race, close calls with the boys in blue and the overall attention it attracted detracted from the experience IMHO.
I hated driving it in the end. I sold it and now have 2 cars. An A3, does all I want, 70mph, comfortable, radio, CD, Cruise carries stuff, all this in general anonymity.
I also Have a Clio 172 Cup. £1700 full of win, and boy does it deliver in buckets, not the fastest car in the world, but fun, almost old school 205 GTI esque, and if i bend it on the track, well I have not really lost a lot. Got a few choice mods to sort soon, but all dirt cheap, compared to costs of Modding Rocco R/TTRS etc.
And a whole heap of cash back in the bank, not earning a lot of interest, but not losing any either. Clio won't lose money, A3 will, but not huge amounts.
3 Wheels dirt cheap cornering FTW.
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Sounds like your enjoying the Clio mate :driver: can't knock em can you
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Not wishing to take this OT.
I must say that I am happier with my choice of cars, than I have been for a while.
For me it is the whole experience, which is not only the drive, but the tinkering, sorting out little problems, and then driving. Can't remember when I last changed a set of plugs DIY, before the Clio. :driver: :grin:
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I agree although I don't see the point in a cayman myself unless you live near choice roads or do alot of trackdays.
Also agree on the TTRS. 7 seconds on the loud pedal and you are in license loosing territory. Funnily enough for me I've had that car for about 18 months so far and unlike all my previous cars I haven't got itchy feet at all but I fully understand what you mean, you have to be going silly fast to enjoy it. I'm just looking forward to running 650hp out of it and doing lemans, the ring etc in it.
I've also been looking at running a rx8 or mx5 as a track car, cheap as chips and who cares if you do spank it? Not gonna loose sleep over sticking 2k into the barrier are you.
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I agree although I don't see the point in a cayman myself unless you live near choice roads or do alot of trackdays.
Also agree on the TTRS. 7 seconds on the loud pedal and you are in license loosing territory. Funnily enough for me I've had that car for about 18 months so far and unlike all my previous cars I haven't got itchy feet at all but I fully understand what you mean, you have to be going silly fast to enjoy it. I'm just looking forward to running 650hp out of it and doing lemans, the ring etc in it.
I've also been looking at running a rx8 or mx5 as a track car, cheap as chips and who cares if you do spank it? Not gonna loose sleep over sticking 2k into the barrier are you.
I agree on the track car, but begs the question why have a ttrs with 650 bhp to go to work in, I'm not having a pop, first time in my life I haven't owned a performance car, looked at what I wanted and realised that I don't do track days anymore and don't want to stuff it( I have an mx5 for that), so bought something that actually is way better on the road but not as fast, Never drive fast on the road anyway, as I don't think many do. As per changing cars and not stepping up, maybe he has kids, I'm kinda limited as are lots of people, and a hot hatch is pretty good at everything, next step up if you had kids is 4 door m3 or rs4, but obviously 25000 miles a year in one of them would be pretty stupid, and tbh as much as I love the ttrs engine, it's no m3 as a car, it's a posh s3 which is a hot hatch, and I could be wrong here front wheel drive most of time.
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I have a caddy maxi as my daily, and the GF's fiat 500 does all the short journey and city driving duty. The TT only comes out late at night or at weekends.
I want 650hp cause I love being thrown into the back of my seat!
But I agree a TTS and TTRS is basically the same bar the engine, and the engine is the only thing which makes it a step up from say a ed30/s3 etc. Granted the TTRS are right up there on the how fast leaderboards.
Candy turbo did have a cayman before so I dont think kids are a hindrance?
I occasionally drive the my parents Mercedes, it's not rapid but more than quick enough, but it's a joy for everyday driving. I'm amazed at how quiet and smooth cars are these days after being in a noisy van and obviously the TT being noisy and rough. I'd probably have one over a hot hatch come to think about it, as long as I still had another toy or hobby from which to get my thrills from.
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That's the thing, hobby! Why do we like cars? :signLOL:
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Candy turbo did have a cayman before so I dont think kids are a hindrance?
Thats the thing, he had the cayman, but changed back to a hot hatch and loves it. Says alot IMO.
If i spend 30k+ on a car, it wont be a hot hatch or sports coupe, it would be a big luxurious saloon for everyday driving. I personally like hot hatches for hooning around on track, they work very well in all weathers, dont bite you in the ass when you lose it and are generally pretty cheap to run, buy and modify.
Its exactly why i bought this car. £14k brand new. Throw 3k of mods at it and it'll happily stay with 30k hot hatches all day long, whilst being much better on fuel, cheaper on tyres, brakes etc etc. That said i dont feel the need to go out street racing in the middle of the night, so this is ample for me.
The alternative is to buy a much more high performance focused car which hgas many many pitfalls.
Example, my mate has a WR1 Impreza with about 340hp. Yes, its awesome out of the box through the twisties, has bucket loads of grip but he manages 15mpg ish at best, very low single figures on track, its far to loud for normal use, costs a bomb to service, replace brakes and tyres etc.
He actually prefers my car and is now looking at changing it in for a smaller hot hatch
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What I don't get is you keep swapping and changing cars as obviously you generally lose money everytime you do, but in your case it doesn't make sense to me, ed30, s3, megane, frs, rocco r, they are all the same sh*te, good cars non the less but hardly a massive change or difference from what you haven't already had. Yes I've driven the megane sport, mk2 Leon Cupra, s3 etc and on the road there isn't a that much of a difference between em. What in trying to get at is instead of wasting money on hotted up hatchbacks why not get something special in the first place which you might actually hang on to for a while because it pushes all the right buttons. Right now you are just side stepping instead of upgrading when it comes to your car choices!
Can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with what Pov says 100%!!
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yes i had a cayman ...and hated it i prefered driving mrs s candys fabia vrs , i do have a 1 year old but we dont use my cars as daily s so that dont effect what car i choose , ive always swapped cars regular at one point i did nt tax a car for years and yes i ve lost loads of money in the past (if fact i dont want to think about it ) but im 42 have a very small mortgage which only has a few years left to run , dont smoke dont drink (that much) so cars are my passion , i have a pretty well paid job worked for same company since i left school
if i wanted to spend £35k on a car i would have a TTRS already cause i think they are cracking car , i ve always had hot hatches , love them , had an RS turbo escort when i was 18 and had nearly every one since
back to the rocco , drove them 1 after the other with the meg this morning and with out doubt i prefere the meg it just feels so much better , it feels like a comfortable track car on the road if you ever get the chance to drive one , do it and i m pretty sure you ll be impressed
got to admit when i dropped the rocco back today was a bit sad if i had nt already drove the megane would have had the rocco for sure , if any one is after one my mate has 2x white ones a black one and a green one all 11 plates full spec ex demo s with up to 4k miles on all around £25k to joe public
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I always thought you were a young 'un!
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I always thought you were a young 'un!
you ve not seen me then ! :happy2:
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Sticking with the meg and modifying instead then?
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yes i had a cayman ...and hated it i prefered driving mrs s candys fabia vrs , i do have a 1 year old but we dont use my cars as daily s so that dont effect what car i choose , ive always swapped cars regular at one point i did nt tax a car for years and yes i ve lost loads of money in the past (if fact i dont want to think about it ) but im 42 have a very small mortgage which only has a few years left to run , dont smoke dont drink (that much) so cars are my passion , i have a pretty well paid job worked for same company since i left school
if i wanted to spend £35k on a car i would have a TTRS already cause i think they are cracking car , i ve always had hot hatches , love them , had an RS turbo escort when i was 18 and had nearly every one since
back to the rocco , drove them 1 after the other with the meg this morning and with out doubt i prefere the meg it just feels so much better , it feels like a comfortable track car on the road if you ever get the chance to drive one , do it and i m pretty sure you ll be impressed
got to admit when i dropped the rocco back today was a bit sad if i had nt already drove the megane would have had the rocco for sure , if any one is after one my mate has 2x white ones a black one and a green one all 11 plates full spec ex demo s with up to 4k miles on all around £25k to joe public
I don't think you should have to justify how much you lose on cars pal, sounds like jealousy to me, if you wanna change cars every 6 months that's up to you, I will say it again, Clio v6, probs won't lose much on tht either, and you could get the proper yellow ( liquid yellow) not that custard rubbish :signLOL: oh hang on m3 csl?
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I don't think you should have to justify how much you lose on cars pal, sounds like jealousy to me, if you wanna change cars every 6 months that's up to you, I will say it again, Clio v6, probs won't lose much on tht either, and you could get the proper yellow ( liquid yellow) not that custard rubbish :signLOL: oh hang on m3 csl?
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Yes Please................. :drool: :drool:
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Sticking with the meg and modifying instead then?
yes , made a decision today ,i ve emailed RStuning for a deal on cooler and map dont want the de cat
been to skoda dealers this afternoon , tried the baby seat in the new fabia and was quite impressed with the space , mrs candy loved her mk1 vrs so if the guy gets back to me tomorrow with the right numbers think that will be the way i go :happy2:
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I don't think you should have to justify how much you lose on cars pal, sounds like jealousy to me, if you wanna change cars every 6 months that's up to you, I will say it again, Clio v6, probs won't lose much on tht either, and you could get the proper yellow ( liquid yellow) not that custard rubbish :signLOL: oh hang on m3 csl?
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Yes Please................. :drool: :drool:
i ve looked at these already the 265 trophy comes in liquid yellow too !!very limited too :happy2:
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Sticking with the meg and modifying instead then?
yes , made a decision today ,i ve emailed RStuning for a deal on cooler and map dont want the de cat
been to skoda dealers this afternoon , tried the baby seat in the new fabia and was quite impressed with the space , mrs candy loved her mk1 vrs so if the guy gets back to me tomorrow with the right numbers think that will be the way i go :happy2:
You ordered a new fabia as well?
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not new , demo for my mrs , she loves um
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what they like on fuel in standard spec ?
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Thats gay :sick:
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what they like on fuel in standard spec ?
Atfirst they get nowhere near the quoted figures. After about 2k awesome. I averaged 22mpg for a 70 mile return journey to mallory park and over 70+ laps. Still had 1/4 tank left after the whole day.
Round town 35-38mpg
Motorway 45-50mpg
Driven briskly everywherr 28-35mpg
Pretty much 10mpg minimum better than my octavia vRS was, and this is quicker
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not new , demo for my mrs , she loves um
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I like that! :happy2:
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not new , demo for my mrs , she loves um
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I like that! :happy2:
The 1st car ive seen with what looks like it has a mustash..
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God they are an ugly sod :signLOL: the back end looks too tall and they sit way too high. I just can't get on with em
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they are a strange looking thing but all the rest seems pretty good , she likes it and i get to have play in it when i want :wink:
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Thats all I see when I look at a Skoda Fabia VRS. Like Matt has said, I just cant get on with them.
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God they are an ugly sod :signLOL: the back end looks too tall and they sit way too high. I just can't get on with em
They have a few funny angles, but in the some colour schemes they actually look pretty good IMO. Others make it look worse.
The first ones came with clear headlights, and chrome grills. The newer ones come with the black pack which include tinited headlights, black grill amongst other things
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I prefer the shape of the estate personally
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This one makes me laugh. They look like toy cars and bikes
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But then you might prefer it looking like this :grin:
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It's not the colour it's the cars shape it's just odd
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they are a strange looking thing but all the rest seems pretty good , she likes it and i get to have play in it when i want :wink:
Theres a thread here on briskoda with images of most of the forum vRS's so you can have a good flick through the main/roof and alloy wheel colour combinations http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/186943-the-fabia-vrs-review-and-photo-thread/page__st__360 (http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/186943-the-fabia-vrs-review-and-photo-thread/page__st__360)
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The Focus RS looks great in certain colours. White being my favourite, followed by the blue. Not keen on any of the others.
There is only one more colour and thats the colour i bought ..... :laugh:
Got to say i love my FRS , the fact of the matter though is that everone looks for differant things in a hot hatch, wheather its track ability, the way the car makes you feel, practicality, interior quality, build quality, refinement, speed, handeling, modding potential, looks or something else. You could pick a completely differant hot hatch as a winner for each of these categories we have all selected our cars on what suits our needs
Although i can say having driven most hot hatches the focus RS is head and sholders above the rest....................... Ha ha only kidding :laugh:
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i like the focus too apart from the rear valance :sick: and the fact that they are every where far to common for me to want one :happy2:
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Got to say i had basically bought the rs looks wise before id even bought it, i personally love the rear vallance too the rear view is really hardcore with the big spoiler vallance wide arches and massivse pipes.
The ford garage where i bought the rs had a golf r they were trying to get shot of and knocked 3k of the price for me, it was still more expensive than the rs only about a grand though and i really liked that i was so tempted took it for a spin it was rapid ( found out it had been mapped ) bluefin unit in the glove box. I know though if id bought it i would of had the rs in a year or so anyway as id wanted one since id first seen it, also ive never had a new car before so that sort of swayed me !
The RSes are pretty common but i like that, it usually means better tuning products saying that though there are less FRSes than megane renaultsports according to the production numbers there were 11000 rses world wide and 500 of theses were rs 500s compared to nearly double that of the mk3 megane varients and counting as i believe they are still in production until 2013
I thought the ring lap on the 265 was pretty impressive a lot of tyre squeel though and not much engine noise !
Id love to see propper lap round there with sorted 2+ golf r, s3, rocco r cupra or eddy - hurdys lap was impressive ( i think its the fastest 2.0tfsi lap of the ring ive seen) but traffic is always going to slow you down !
RS lap - this is the fastest modern day fwd car ive seen on oem engine turbo set up, that has not been stripped anyway,
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Their Audi TTS lapped it quicker :P
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Is the tts not 4wd ?
Ooooft still good going though what did that do it in ? Linky please !
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Not when it's run in the VLR race series! Neither is the TTRS.
Albeit their day runner is 4wd yes
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whats the spec of that focus RS? The turn in and direction change is beautiful
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Not when it's run in the VLR race series! Neither is the TTRS.
Albeit their day runner is 4wd yes
Awe man cant compare that with the category im putting the rs in thats a full on race car mega downforce body kit and sequential gear box, if that didnt thrash everything in a race where average joe modded it id be embarrassed for it !
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whats the spec of that focus RS? The turn in and direction change is beautiful
Believe it or not it didnt have that much done to it power was only boosted to 363, it had a differant diff ( a i think because raeder distribute that diff ) And kw clubsports - obviously set up to perfection and a set of movit brakes and decent tyres
Jobby done !
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Not when it's run in the VLR race series! Neither is the TTRS.
Albeit their day runner is 4wd yes
Awe man cant compare that with the category im putting the rs in thats a full on race car mega downforce body kit and sequential gear box, if that didnt thrash everything in a race where average joe modded it id be embarrassed for it !
Plus in a Focus RS people think, 'nice car'. In a TT they think
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So 8 seconds with pretty much everything done except turbo. I don't think that's a great ad for the r's tbh. Not that I'm into the nurburgring times rubbish cos you still got to drive it but still, it's been said million times, the 265s times is mad.
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Not really mate thats lightly modded imo they took the lsd out and put the one they supply in so that cancels each other out, 363 on the power chart on an rs that can be achieved with just a remap although i doubt raeder just used a map
To achieve this and a set of coilovers and brakes ( standard brakes are proper faders )
Tbh about 3k on an rs gets you about 420 bhp and 600+nm of torque!
I think that is a good advert for the rs, for a fwd ford focus to blitz the ring in under 8 mins is pretty good, and there is going to be another ring attack soon with an aim of 7.40 - personally cat see that
Im not slateing any cars here but i bought the rs because i knew i could improve it by modding as with the edition 30 and what ever other cars ive owned, for me though buying a 265 rs ( compliment ) Where do you go ? Thats possibly as good as you can go and not much room for improvement ?
Again not trying to big up the rs by saying look at this time ect ect i just like to compare cars and show others its good points, as janner and candy both had them in there to own list and do track days
As said you make your choice on the cars merits thats important to you, pay your money and take your chances !
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I bet the megane was mapped anyway it sure as hell sounded fruitier than the one I drove.
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Anyway same old :signLOL: I would consider, map, suspension, new diff and brakes, quite a lot of mods. As for the map on the meg, give over, And a map on a 265 would give you 20 bhp?
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Lightly modded :signLOL:
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Got to say i had basically bought the rs looks wise before id even bought it, i personally love the rear vallance too the rear view is really hardcore with the big spoiler vallance wide arches and massivse pipes.
The ford garage where i bought the rs had a golf r they were trying to get shot of and knocked 3k of the price for me, it was still more expensive than the rs only about a grand though and i really liked that i was so tempted took it for a spin it was rapid ( found out it had been mapped ) bluefin unit in the glove box. I know though if id bought it i would of had the rs in a year or so anyway as id wanted one since id first seen it, also ive never had a new car before so that sort of swayed me !
The RSes are pretty common but i like that, it usually means better tuning products saying that though there are less FRSes than megane renaultsports according to the production numbers there were 11000 rses world wide and 500 of theses were rs 500s compared to nearly double that of the mk3 megane varients and counting as i believe they are still in production until 2013
I thought the ring lap on the 265 was pretty impressive a lot of tyre squeel though and not much engine noise !
Id love to see propper lap round there with sorted 2+ golf r, s3, rocco r cupra or eddy - hurdys lap was impressive ( i think its the fastest 2.0tfsi lap of the ring ive seen) but traffic is always going to slow you down !
RS lap - this is the fastest modern day fwd car ive seen on oem engine turbo set up, that has not been stripped anyway,
not saying your figures are wrong but since ive had my megane(12 months) apart from renault meets ive see about 10 others on the road at the most i see 10 FRS a week and i travel all over the country with work , there are 3 on my estate alone still lovely car esp in white but imo spoilt by over production from ford
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that said, the FRS stands out from all other focus's so it catches the eye. Ive seen a few meganes which i thought were RS250s until i got closer and realised they were just sport models. They blen in much more than the FRS
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that said, the FRS stands out from all other focus's so it catches the eye. Ive seen a few meganes which i thought were RS250s until i got closer and realised they were just sport models. They blen in much more than the FRS
i agree FRS do stand out but the trained eye can spot an RS 250 miles away
looks like the vabia s off , dealer wants to give f*** all in p\x but expect to pay top dollar for there cars , £7k for a 57 plate 1.5dci qashqai tekna (top spec )they having a laugh :confused:
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Nice. What was the price they asked for the fabia.
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Id probably agree and say i see more focus rses than meg rses but like sy says they pop out a bit more, it could just be that there are more in the uk though, the uk got more rses than anywhere else i think they got about half of the full production id imagine the megane would be more popular in france as im sure i heard somewhere that it was against the law to modify in france ?
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Id probably agree and say i see more focus rses than meg rses but like sy says they pop out a bit more, it could just be that there are more in the uk though, the uk got more rses than anywhere else i think they got about half of the full production id imagine the megane would be more popular in france as im sure i heard somewhere that it was against the law to modify in france ?
Renaultsports biggest market is uk, tbh it depends where you live, I see loads of focus rs, less megs, but they have sold loads, must be somewhere :signLOL:
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Nice. What was the price they asked for the fabia.
the silver one was £14995 they had a green one £13995 both full spec
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Is the tax free deal still on then
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Id probably agree and say i see more focus rses than meg rses but like sy says they pop out a bit more, it could just be that there are more in the uk though, the uk got more rses than anywhere else i think they got about half of the full production id imagine the megane would be more popular in france as im sure i heard somewhere that it was against the law to modify in france ?
Renaultsports biggest market is uk, tbh it depends where you live, I see loads of focus rs, less megs, but they have sold loads, must be somewhere :signLOL:
i went to buy a FRS when the 60 plate came out went to the dealers and he took me into the compound and they had 60 + cars ready to go out in my local area put me right off , dont think there are that many 250 around at the minute but will get more popular as the used prices come down , new face lift model has 265 bhp from april i think
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Is the tax free deal still on then
not sure , the silver one is 61 plate done 1k miles green one 11 plate done 4k miles both have every extra you can get
sy , meg booked for map and cooler 18 th feb :driver:
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Is the tax free deal still on then
not sure , the silver one is 61 plate done 1k miles green one 11 plate done 4k miles both have every extra you can get
sy , meg booked for map and cooler 18 th feb :driver:
Good news on the map. If the meg has the fwd record at the with only 265hp with the STOCK setup, imagine the difference in time when your running an extra 55hp :surprised:
I paid about £14300 brand new for mine. Bargain I thought
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that said, the FRS stands out from all other focus's so it catches the eye. Ive seen a few meganes which i thought were RS250s until i got closer and realised they were just sport models. They blen in much more than the FRS
i agree FRS do stand out but the trained eye can spot an RS 250 miles away
looks like the vabia s off , dealer wants to give f*** all in p\x but expect to pay top dollar for there cars , £7k for a 57 plate 1.5dci qashqai tekna (top spec )they having a laugh :confused:
Depends what the mileage is. CAP value varies between £6700 (80k below average condition) to £11050 (10k miles above average condition).
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Is the tax free deal still on then
not sure , the silver one is 61 plate done 1k miles green one 11 plate done 4k miles both have every extra you can get
sy , meg booked for map and cooler 18 th feb :driver:
Good news on the map. If the meg has the fwd record at the with only 265hp with the STOCK setup, imagine the difference in time when your running an extra 55hp :surprised:
I paid about £14300 brand new for mine. Bargain I thought
Raeder Motorsport said that adding extra power to the focus/tts made minimal difference to ring lap times. They said suspension setup etc made the biggest gains in time