MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: NeilM on April 23, 2009, 11:37:16 am
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Anyone using PAGID Blue RS4-2 pads? I've been using EBC yellow stuff with my drilled discs but their not great for more than a couple of track days. Had a chat with Brembo dealers and they recommend slotted front discs with Pagid blue pads which work well for more trackdays and road use, the pads are a bit pricey thought £180 for the fronts :sad:
Edit: Went for the Slotted Brembo's & Pagid Blue pads as this combo was recommended by www.racepads.co.uk who are now the only importer of Brembo so hopefully know their stuff. Much better than EBC/drilled disc's, and feel good from cold :happy2:
I think if I'd have known I would be doing this many track days I'd have gone for 2 piece/floating discs :signIWS:
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Drilled discs :rolleye: 100% right Tony.
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I much prefer hair round it.
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Someone I know with an LCR track car and Brembos swears by Mintex, and that gets some serious abuse. They've tried most things and reckon they work best.
I like DS2500's personally, never killed a set yet.
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I think the RS24-1 are meant to be pretty good. I was considering those for my R32 brakes when they get fitted...
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all my pals swear by ds2500's
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ferodo/pagids/mintex all better than EBC IMO!!!
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what about tarox pads
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Neil try the carbotech pads, the lads with the minis at bedford run them and swear by them, xp8 or xp10 :happy2:
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or Performance Friction if you need another option. the EVO boys like them.
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I,ve used RS4-2,s on a previous TT (heavy 3.2 one !!) that had porsche brakes up front---- Fantastic
I am at the moment contemplating DS2500's to go with my R32 brakes but know the Pagid,s are really good so I'm a bit torn myself :confused:
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Someone I know with an LCR track car and Brembos swears by Mintex, and that gets some serious abuse. They've tried most things and reckon they work best.
I like DS2500's personally, never killed a set yet.
Do the DS2500's squeak at slow braking speeds out of interest? I used to run them on my Impreza and they were very good pads but had an annoying squeak when used at very slow speeds. Just thinking where I will go, when it comes time to replace mine.
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all my pals swear by ds2500's
ditto! ;)
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Luca, I can vouch for the Carbotech pads, my wife has them on her remapped Colt CZT, the performance is astonishing. According to Carbotech they will trigger the brake warning light on the Golf as they dont come with brake wear connectors.
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Someone I know with an LCR track car and Brembos swears by Mintex, and that gets some serious abuse. They've tried most things and reckon they work best.
I like DS2500's personally, never killed a set yet.
Do the DS2500's squeak at slow braking speeds out of interest? I used to run them on my Impreza and they were very good pads but had an annoying squeak when used at very slow speeds. Just thinking where I will go, when it comes time to replace mine.
Hmm :confused: mine never squeaked, on any of the cars. Did you slap loads of copper grease in there?
Robern2 - you can disable the brake wear indicator with vadgecom to save you messing with the wiring.
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ferodo/pagids/mintex all better than EBC IMO!!!
I'll second that. Everyone I know who is 'in the know' doesnt like EBC.
I get Ferodo at less than trade price through a friend who works for the distributor and I also swear by them. Never heard them squeal either. I have currently got DS Performance pads on my (non-VW) car and they are excellent and well up to the fast road use and occasional abuse on country roads. IMHO, they are much better for road use as they aren't as harsh as DS2500's and aren't as heat sensitive either but with decent tires and OE discs, they are bloody brilliant. Not that expensive either, even at retail price. I've found DS2500's are quite abrasive and need to be worked to get them up to temp and perform at their best.
Out of interest, what do you guys on DS2500's use disc-wise?
EDIT: Ah - just looked it up. You can't get DSP's for the Mkv GTi, so ignore all that, sorry. And they don't appear to do anything that fit R32 fronts.
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Animal - I don't suppose you can lay your hands on a set of DS2500's for some Alcon 4-pots, can you? I wouldn't mind some spares, and cheap as chips ones are even better!!
Discs, I always steer clear of drilled - they're good, but they're prone to cracking. Grooved or cresents is where it's at.
Oh, and EBC are abslolute gash, I ruined a set in less than a day, they actually crumbled to bits.
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DS2500 without a doubt if you get them for the caliper size.
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Animal - I don't suppose you can lay your hands on a set of DS2500's for some Alcon 4-pots, can you? I wouldn't mind some spares, and cheap as chips ones are even better!!
Discs, I always steer clear of drilled - they're good, but they're prone to cracking. Grooved or cresents is where it's at.
Oh, and EBC are abslolute gash, I ruined a set in less than a day, they actually crumbled to bits.
Will see what I can do - are they a special fitment or a standard fitment? It's easy to order for car make/model but not sure about a specific aftermarket brake set-up.
Glad someone else agree's with drilled discs - you just don't need drilled discs on the road and it substantially weakens the rotors as it causes lots of localised stress within the material. Grooved are much stronger and still help to prevent glazing. I've seen some nasty cracked discs on AMG Mercs after hard use. What's also disconcerting is a lot of the 'budget' drilled discs you see on eBay, and the like, are just cheap-o discs that someone has literally just taken a drill to. I've always used solid-vented OE discs with DS Performance pads as if anything you actually need to retain heat in fast-road pads.
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Animal can you get me a set of front and rear ferodo ds2500 to fit leon cupra/r32/s3 fronts and leon cupra/ed30/gti rears?
Pm me prices if you want mate :happy2:
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Animal can you get me a set of front and rear ferodo ds2500 to fit leon cupra/r32/s3 fronts and leon cupra/ed30/gti rears?
Pm me prices if you want mate :happy2:
lol... Please?
You'd have to find out the part numbers from Ferodo - off the top of my head, I'm not even sure they do them to fit those brakes - never seen anything listed for the R32 and will assume they are the same for the S3/LCR. I can't make any promises about ordering for everyone - I get the stuff at mates-rates because we're good friends - dont want to start taking the pi$$ out of his good will by placing loads of orders. He's also not really local and I have to see him in person to collect and pay. I'll see what he says next time I speak to him.
Out of interest, don't the 2.0 TDi and GTi have the same brake calipers? I found today that you can get DS Performace pads for the 2.0TDi so presumably these would fit a GTi as well? Can anyone confirm? I still think the DS2500's are a bit harsh for road use, but each to their own.
Oh and are ED30 brakes different to standard GTi ones?
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ed30 and gti have same brakes
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I'd like to say I'm shocked to see those cracked discs, but it's all too common. For race cars, where you can ditch then after 1 use fine.. but for road, they're just doomed to failure.
Animal, they use 1 common caliper for all 4 pot kits, but please don't go out of your way to get them. It was a bit cheeky of me to ask to be fair.
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If i could get trade prices for everyone I would. I like to get something decent as cheap as possible as much as the next man, I just don't want to push my luck with my mate - I will see what I can negotiate without taking the preverbial.
Just to clear up... S3/R32/LCR use the larger set-up, ED30/GTi/TDi have the smaller calipers? If that's the case you can get DS P's and 2500's to fit the Ed30/GTi. Pretty certain there isn't anything to fit the larger brakes though. Interesting that VW decided not to upgrade the ED30's brakes when it's only 10bhp shy of the LCR.
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Animal- didnt mean to sound like a cheeky **** dont go out of your way mate :smiley:, JPC has the ds2500 on his s3 brakes. Will try and find out the part number.
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what about tarox pads
The TAROX pads are great :happy2: They work from cold, don't squeak and have a very high coefficient of friction if you want. They do several types to suit most driving styles. I haven't had to buy pads yet, so don't really know the prices.
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