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Title: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: Mk5 GTian on January 22, 2012, 06:51:53 am
Has anyone got any experience of fitting one of these? Any noticeable changes in performance? K&N claim an extra 18bhp which sounds good for 44 sheets plus VAT!
Title: Re: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: fab5freddy on January 22, 2012, 09:17:50 am
Sound to good too be true?   :innocent:

I fitted one when i first had the car and it did stuff all   :happy2:

Will improve air flow but will do nothing for performance (nothing you'd notice anyway)
Title: Re: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: Nodz on January 22, 2012, 09:46:11 am
At the last JKM rolling road, I was standard running 197bhp and someone had just an uprated air filter ad nothing else and got 204bhpiirc
Title: Re: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: fab5freddy on January 22, 2012, 09:49:00 am
Sound to good too be true?   :innocent:

I fitted one when i first had the car and it did stuff all   :happy2:

Will improve air flow but will do nothing for performance (nothing you'd notice anyway)


Apoligies should have read the post properly  :stupid:

Thought you were talking about the panel filter  :fighting2:
Title: Re: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: 56OctyVRS on January 22, 2012, 09:57:26 am
I have one fitted and it does help the engine breath better. The actual intake pipe is larger than the bsh and it measures just under 3inches in diameter so it can shift a lot of air. I removed the heat shielding and find the engine performs better with the full cold air flow from the front. I have always fitted K&N filters to my car as I have not used a bad kit or experienced any problems on any of my cars in 14 years.
Title: Re: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: bacillus on January 22, 2012, 10:34:12 am
Apologies should have read the post properly  :stupid:

Thought you were talking about the panel filter  :fighting2:

So did I for the stated price.  :ashamed:
He was actually talking about this

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.knfilters.com%2Fimages%2Fm%2F69-9503TFK.jpg&hash=690b25bbb07062611ad598d09591c93b38657fa0)
Title: Re: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: fab5freddy on January 22, 2012, 10:55:55 am
Apologies should have read the post properly  :stupid:

Thought you were talking about the panel filter  :fighting2:

So did I for the stated price.  :ashamed:
He was actually talking about this

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.knfilters.com%2Fimages%2Fm%2F69-9503TFK.jpg&hash=690b25bbb07062611ad598d09591c93b38657fa0)


That's what caught me the price :laugh:
Title: Re: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: GNJ_Motorsport on January 22, 2012, 11:51:39 am
How much? Must be some kind of mistake there as that kit is £255.03 + VAT RRP.

http://www.knfilters.co.uk/search/product.aspx?Prod=69-9503TFK

The price of £44+ vat will almost certainly be the panel filter

http://www.knfilters.co.uk/search/product.aspx?Prod=33-2888
Title: Re: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on January 22, 2012, 12:15:59 pm
At the last JKM rolling road, I was standard running 197bhp and someone had just an uprated air filter ad nothing else and got 204bhpiirc

That was mine  :grin:

Nick at R-Tech yesterday told me to swap it for a dry filter (K&N is oiled) as it can knacker the MAF sensor. Gotta swap it for a pipercross now
Title: Re: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: R-tech-Nick on January 22, 2012, 12:22:41 pm
At the last JKM rolling road, I was standard running 197bhp and someone had just an uprated air filter ad nothing else and got 204bhpiirc

That was mine  :grin:

Nick at R-Tech yesterday told me to swap it for a dry filter (K&N is oiled) as it can knacker the MAF sensor. Gotta swap it for a pipercross now

That was Jim,  :smiley: He said some K&N filters are oil and no good for the MAF, if it is an oiled filter then change it for a dry one, if its already dry the leave it  and dont waste your money.

How was the drive home?

Nick
Title: Re: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: Russ_leeds on January 22, 2012, 12:29:18 pm
aren't itg filters on the maxogen kit oiled?
Title: Re: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on January 22, 2012, 12:51:41 pm
At the last JKM rolling road, I was standard running 197bhp and someone had just an uprated air filter ad nothing else and got 204bhpiirc

That was mine  :grin:

Nick at R-Tech yesterday told me to swap it for a dry filter (K&N is oiled) as it can knacker the MAF sensor. Gotta swap it for a pipercross now

That was Jim,  :smiley: He said some K&N filters are oil and no good for the MAF, if it is an oiled filter then change it for a dry one, if its already dry the leave it  and dont waste your money.

How was the drive home?

Nick

Nick - I've sent you an email (to your workshop account) about a little jerkiness on part throttle as it comes on boost in 4th & 5th - apart from that IT'S EPIC!  :happy2:

Feels a lot quicker than the figures suggest! My mate in the passenger seat has woken up with a stiff neck with all that torque  :grin:
Title: Re: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: GarethB on January 22, 2012, 01:03:13 pm
At the last JKM rolling road, I was standard running 197bhp and someone had just an uprated air filter ad nothing else and got 204bhpiirc

That was mine  :grin:

Nick at R-Tech yesterday told me to swap it for a dry filter (K&N is oiled) as it can knacker the MAF sensor. Gotta swap it for a pipercross now

That was Jim,  :smiley: He said some K&N filters are oil and no good for the MAF, if it is an oiled filter then change it for a dry one, if its already dry the leave it  and dont waste your money.

How was the drive home?

Nick

Nick - I've sent you an email (to your workshop account) about a little jerkiness on part throttle as it comes on boost in 4th & 5th - apart from that IT'S EPIC!  :happy2:

Feels a lot quicker than the figures suggest! My mate in the passenger seat has woken up with a stiff neck with all that torque  :grin:

Glad to hear that you're enjoying it Graeme  :happy2:

What figures did you achieve? is there a separate write up somewhere?
Title: Re: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on January 22, 2012, 01:08:00 pm
Don't wanna hi-jack this thread too much but it made 248bhp and a collossal 311lb/ft of torque, both curves are very smooth and it holds it right up to higher revs. Very impressed with it - although the clutch is struggling a bit (slips in 4-6th if I try to use the torque rather than drop a gear. Helix clutch will be the next mod  :grin:
Title: Re: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: Mk5 GTian on January 22, 2012, 04:17:39 pm
At the last JKM rolling road, I was standard running 197bhp and someone had just an uprated air filter ad nothing else and got 204bhpiirc

That was mine  :grin:

Nick at R-Tech yesterday told me to swap it for a dry filter (K&N is oiled) as it can knacker the MAF sensor. Gotta swap it for a pipercross now

Was that the panel filter you had?
Title: Re: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: Mk5 GTian on January 22, 2012, 04:19:20 pm
How much? Must be some kind of mistake there as that kit is £255.03 + VAT RRP.

http://www.knfilters.co.uk/search/product.aspx?Prod=69-9503TFK

The price of £44+ vat will almost certainly be the panel filter

http://www.knfilters.co.uk/search/product.aspx?Prod=33-2888

Yes sorry, I got h=the prices and codes mixed up. These are about 200 a pop I believe
Title: Re: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: Mk5 GTian on January 22, 2012, 04:22:38 pm
Don't wanna hi-jack this thread too much but it made 248bhp and a collossal 311lb/ft of torque, both curves are very smooth and it holds it right up to higher revs. Very impressed with it - although the clutch is struggling a bit (slips in 4-6th if I try to use the torque rather than drop a gear. Helix clutch will be the next mod  :grin:

Was that Stage 1 you've had done?
Title: Re: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on January 22, 2012, 05:09:28 pm
Yes mate it was and the panel filter was a K&N
Title: Re: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: Mk5 GTian on January 22, 2012, 05:16:58 pm
Cheers mate, I'm going Stage 1 next month, 245 bhp....that'll do nicely!

Pipercross panel filter is a PP1624 I think. Thanks for the heads-up on the oily issue with K&N. I think I'm going to go for that Pipercross PF and the Stage 1 and leave it at that.
Title: Re: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: Black9 on January 23, 2012, 04:41:57 am
I fitted a K&N panel filter, can't say I noticed much difference... Are the K&N panel filters oiled I guess?
Title: Re: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: Mk5 GTian on January 23, 2012, 06:43:36 am
I fitted a K&N panel filter, can't say I noticed much difference... Are the K&N panel filters oiled I guess?

Yes, and apparently these can knacker the MAF sensor, see earlier in this thread.
Title: Re: K&N 69-9503TFK Air filter
Post by: 56OctyVRS on January 23, 2012, 08:56:13 am
I have run both the k&n panel filter and intake kit and never had any issues. Its when people over oil them after cleaning that issues happen.