MK5 Golf GTI
General => Detailing => Topic started by: jimk04 on January 27, 2012, 05:17:28 pm
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I had my car painted before Christmas and it was a nice job.
I got 2 new buckets, grit guard and a wash mitt for xmas and have been more cautious as ever when cleaning it (shadow blue).
The fecking thing is covered in super fine 'scratches'. Some people cant even see what I am on about, and it is only apparent in strong sun, but obviously I am adding plenty of swirls to the top coat.
I even used some AG Extra gloss protection and a new microfibre after waxing and seemed to see extra swirling after.
So I am thinking my fresh paint is still soft.
Any guiders as to how long it will take to harden? I guess I will need to have a correction done when its all hard again. Just dont want to make too much of a mess of it now.!
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i think someone told me you should let the new paint harden for about a month before you wash it but i could be talking crap :rolleye:
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i think someone told me you should let the new paint harden for about a month before you wash it but i could be talking crap :rolleye:
I had a new front wing on my car which was detailed 5 days after i got it back and i've washed it 3 times since. No scratches on mine. Was the paint job done by VW or someone else?
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Vw Mansfield.
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Vw Mansfield.
Take it to a good bodyshop and ask there opinion, if they say something is at fault then ask for a letter to explain. You may need to pay but you can ask for this cost back from the dealer.... I did it and it worked I even got compensation back.....
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Send jpc on this forum a pm I am sure if you ask him he could look or even help you a little
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use atoglym super resin polish. really high quality stuff took my swirl marks off
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use atoglym super resin polish. really high quality stuff took my swirl marks off
Super resin polish is good but doesnt really remove swirls...It uses filling agents to 'hide' the swirls... it will wash out if you dont top it with a good long lasting wax or sealant.
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I had my car painted before Christmas and it was a nice job.
I got 2 new buckets, grit guard and a wash mitt for xmas and have been more cautious as ever when cleaning it (shadow blue).
The fecking thing is covered in super fine 'scratches'. Some people cant even see what I am on about, and it is only apparent in strong sun, but obviously I am adding plenty of swirls to the top coat.
I even used some AG Extra gloss protection and a new microfibre after waxing and seemed to see extra swirling after.
So I am thinking my fresh paint is still soft.
Any guiders as to how long it will take to harden? I guess I will need to have a correction done when its all hard again. Just dont want to make too much of a mess of it now.!
It may be that the body shop used something like 3m a glaze to hide marks in the paint and now you have washed it the true finish of the paint can be seen.
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As above, most swirls aren't really removed (requires a proper machine polish and sometimes correction) but are filled in. SRP is a great hand polish but it does a lot of filling in of swirls, which can then reappear over time as the fillers degrade.
I'd get it looked at by a detailer and see if an enhancement will sort out 90% of the mess.
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My car has some swirl marks too, looking to have them removed properly. Could I do this myself by hand with a microfiber or should I get a pro on the job with a machine polisher!? Any recommendations for detailers within Scotland, Near to edin as possible?
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My car has some swirl marks too, looking to have them removed properly. Could I do this myself by hand with a microfiber or should I get a pro on the job with a machine polisher!? Any recommendations for detailers within Scotland, Near to edin as possible?
You will never effectively remove swirls by hand. and for the cost and risk of getting all the correct equipment yourself, you may aswell pay someone who knows what they are doing.
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Unless you have time, money and effort to do a proper job of it, I'd always recommend getting a pro to have a look at it. Then all you need to do is a regular wash and top up wax.
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Difficult to say without seeing but either holograms from compound or marring that was filled by polish. Take a look on detailingworld brush up on your car care techniques and or get a pro to take a look imo.
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Thanks for the input. It was glossy as when I picked it up from the shop, so yeah either I have removed their filler, or I have marred the fresh paint....I think maybe the latter.
I think I will srp it until I can afford a paint correction.
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I'd like to get a pro detail but it's hard to find a trusted and well experienced detailer. I'm up in edinburgh. From what I know both greeners & russ are 4/5hr away from me. Can't really take a day or two off work to get down there unfortunately.
Can anyone recommend any well experienced detailers from near my end?
As for products. I'm looking into buying a a machine polisher, don't have much knowledge about them so what brand and type do people on here use? Also is paint sealant and wax the same product with a different name?
If I was to carry out a mini detail on my car, after washing, claying and drying along with wheel and tyres I would follow this method:-
Apply a swirl remover (possibly swirlX) by machine, buff off with MF cloth
Apply polish by machine and buff off
Apply a wax/sealant by machine and buff off
I'd change the pads from abrasive to less abrasive with each step. How does this technique sound and anything I'm missing?
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Try having a look here: http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=59867
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Just an update to this - I just washed the car this morning and its 'marr central'!
The whole thing covered in the finest of marks, real hard to see in some light but when the sun hits its right.... :surprised: :scared: :confused:.....terrible
Well I tried a few things in my arsenal and found I had a tube of Megs Scratch X - and it seems to be removing them nicely - by hand so a steady job mind you.
What product would be an equivalent to Scrath X that can be done my machine to speed up the process? Any of the finer correction compounds?
You cant really tell the Scratch X is an abrasive to the touch - whereas I also have some AG Paint Renovator and its like liquid sandpaper!
Just need to find the source of the marring now - think I will bin all my (new!!) cloths and things.!
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Depends on whether the swirls were taken out the first time or not. A lot of products have filler in them to fill in the swirls, so they reappear over time. You need to get the car machine polished properly, otherwise you'll just inflict more swirls and create holograms if you don't know what you're doing!
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Depends on whether the swirls were taken out the first time or not. A lot of products have filler in them to fill in the swirls, so they reappear over time. You need to get the car machine polished properly, otherwise you'll just inflict more swirls and create holograms if you don't know what you're doing!
:congrats: couldn't have put it better myself
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But with the scratch x I take it I've removed the marring and not filled them?