MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: nath on January 27, 2012, 06:59:45 pm
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HI all , been looking for a while now (mk5 gti ) but have been offered a mk5 56 plate 3 door gt 140 diesel, fsh , and really like it ! Not a gti i know but what do you all think ? and is there anything to look for ?? Can you reliable have these chipped ? it.s HPI clear . Thanks
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Ive got a gt tdi 57reg and its an amazing car, not as quick and as nice sounding as the gti thou :sad1:
I have had no major problems with mine so far had it for about 1year. Just had a major service done last week and all went well.
The 140 are better than the 170 and more reliable to remap etc.
Id say take it!!! if everything check out on it :happy2:
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The 140 are better than the 170 and more reliable to remap etc.
Only if you don't own a 170! :laugh:
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I own the 140, 3 door on a 56 plate, my last average mileage worked out at 44 mpg (mixed) based on 430 miles which in this economic climate is a bonus.
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Both my other half and myself both have 105 1.9s and both have been remapped to 140, we both get about 55 mpg normal driving and on a run about 61, not trip read out but worked out, i would/couldnt live with the cost of petrol anymore, buy it you will love it mate
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I got swmbo a GT PD140 back in July and it's fantastic, now running an EGR delete and Shark remap so approx' 175bhp 300lb/ft. I know find myself behind the wheel of that more than my vRS............45-50mpg average, and I don't hang about! :happy2: My advice would be to get the GT, but get it remapped asap!
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Get it bought and then remap it
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Get it bought and then remap it
Hows the turbo and clutch fair with remapped GT's?
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As long as you don't push the turbo(get a reputable tuner to do the map)it will be fine, if the car is it good shape the clutch will be ok
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I can only echo everyone else's comments.
Mine is a 140 GT TDi pre facelift mk5
My only regret. Not waiting to find a facelift one.
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Get it bought and then remap it
Hows the turbo and clutch fair with remapped GT's?
One of the only weak points with the 140 is the turbo, but that can go at 5k, or 105k remapped or not. I factored the turbo going in to the purchase price so if the worse happens I can get a hybrid...... :evilgrin:
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I heard that the turbo is weak on early versions, what years is exactly classed as "early"
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2004 to 2006
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2004 to 2006
Mines on a 56 so looks like mine is a weak point but still very tempted to get a map done by R-Tech :drool:
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had mine done by r-tech,it was a excellent map...I say was because i had a lot of trouble with oil pressure building up and blowing turbo's
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I've got a '54 plate 140hp tdi (remapped to 185hp) currently at 109k miles it feels better then most cars I've driven, friends comment on how good it drives. Quick enough to keep up with most things.
Great cars just watch out for abused ones and the issues with rust!!
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had mine done by r-tech,it was a excellent map...I say was because i had a lot of trouble with oil pressure building up and blowing turbo's
Was that a direct result of map, what gains were you running at?
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no the problem was already thier--i had the turbo replaced then went to see Nick about the map,but the turbo went again because the engine breather was blocked even thou it was brand new--
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no the problem was already thier--i had the turbo replaced then went to see Nick about the map,but the turbo went again because the engine breather was blocked even thou it was brand new--
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fcc20%2Fmaxitrol%2Fr-tech.jpg&hash=0d065c7515bc685602cabadf4db68a13cd073e07)
Was it the breather in the end? I knew it...lol :happy2:
IMO remapping the 2004-06 TDI 140pd hit and miss, not with the software but with the hardware. Stock boost is 1.35bar and just by going to 1.45bar boost some turbos have a hissy fit. In a lot of cases on spec1 maps on older 140PD I will give the car 50millbar more boost and use the fuel to make the power ans run a little smokey.
IMO if your unsure how good your turbo is or worried its on then list deemed to fail, then dont cause your self worry or hardship dont get it mapped.... but saying that they fail just as much in stock form................. so buy a TFSI :signLOL:
My VNT TDI findings
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=184800.0
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I've got a '54 plate 140hp tdi (remapped to 185hp) currently at 109k miles it feels better then most cars I've driven, friends comment on how good it drives. Quick enough to keep up with most things.
Great cars just watch out for abused ones and the issues with rust!!
Did you change turbo and clutch before or after remap?
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My brothers tdi 140bhp shat its turbo on 24k mileage and his is a 58 plate cost him about a grand to fix it all in the end, his is running an awsome gti remap
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no the problem was already thier--i had the turbo replaced then went to see Nick about the map,but the turbo went again because the engine breather was blocked even thou it was brand new--
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fcc20%2Fmaxitrol%2Fr-tech.jpg&hash=0d065c7515bc685602cabadf4db68a13cd073e07)
Was it the breather in the end? I knew it...lol :happy2:
IMO remapping the 2004-06 TDI 140pd hit and miss, not with the software but with the hardware. Stock boost is 1.35bar and just by going to 1.45bar boost some turbos have a hissy fit. In a lot of cases on spec1 maps on older 140PD I will give the car 50millbar more boost and use the fuel to make the power ans run a little smokey.
IMO if your unsure how good your turbo is or worried its on then list deemed to fail, then dont cause your self worry or hardship dont get it mapped.... but saying that they fail just as much in stock form................. so buy a TFSI :signLOL:
My VNT TDI findings
http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=184800.0
Its not so much the turbo actually going, I could live with that if it just "packed up" its the actual destruction to engine parts what worries me. Would seem a new turbo is the way forward for peace of mind!
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My brothers tdi 140bhp shat its turbo on 24k mileage and his is a 58 plate cost him about a grand to fix it all in the end, his is running an awsome gti remap
For a couple of hundred quid more he could have gone for a hybrid...... :sick:
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I recently got a 2004 GT TDI 140 and love it. Getting 46mpg average (this is calculated via fuelly as the computer on the VW exaggerates abit (55mpg), which can be sorted through VCDS) and 520miles out of a tank of V Power Diesel.
Not remaped it yet, but its on my list.
Talking about the weaker turbos on the earlier models TDI's. I had my turbo changed when i bought it. The car had done 80K and the old turbo was loud and the car apparently went into limp mode a few times, so the garage i bought the car from put a brand new one in.
Will this still be like the weaker turbos, will this one be better?
Thanks
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The turbo that went was brand new,but it wasn't the map that caused them to it was a build up of oil pressure and as the breathing system was blocked it decided to chuck the oil out through the turbo,I was going to and still will put a hybrid turbo on probs a dark side development one,when i know my engine is running right
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Its not so much the turbo actually going, I could live with that if it just "packed up" its the actual destruction to engine parts what worries me. Would seem a new turbo is the way forward for peace of mind!
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If the engine sucks up oil from the inlet side when the turbo fails you can bend rods or have the engine rev until the crank falls out.
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The 140 are better than the 170 and more reliable to remap etc.
Only if you don't own a 170! :laugh:
Or a mapped one pushing 220 bhp with a DPF delete :P
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The turbo that went was brand new,but it wasn't the map that caused them to it was a build up of oil pressure and as the breathing system was blocked it decided to chuck the oil out through the turbo
Ah ok, i thought it was due to the type of turbo they used on the earlier cars. I was hoping that becuase mine has just been changed (4000 miles old) i thought it might have been replaced with a newer better one and they might have stopped making the weaker older ones??