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Title: Mk5 gti v Fabia VRS
Post by: perky85 on January 31, 2012, 05:47:23 pm: Has anyone had a play with the new fabia vrs??

I see one everyday on my daily drive, & tonight I thought why not give it a go??

Anyway after reaching a certain speed on the motorway, he come past like i was in reverse!!

All you could hear was the constant whistle, fair play it shifted & left me embarrased. :ashamed:

I assume it was standard as it was a 61 plate, also my golf is standard, anybody had similar experiences??

:confused:
Title: Re: Mk5 gti v Fabia VRS
Post by: GarethB on January 31, 2012, 05:49:47 pm: (hides and waits for Janner Sy) :wink:

Standard for standard it really shouldn't leave you 'like you were in reverse' - especially not once up to speed.

They are quick little things though......
Title: Re: Mk5 gti v Fabia VRS
Post by: JackG on January 31, 2012, 05:50:29 pm: Quote from: perky85 on January 31, 2012, 05:47:23 pm
Has anyone had a play with the new fabia vrs??

I see one everyday on my daily drive, & tonight I thought why not give it a go??

Anyway after reaching a certain speed on the motorway, he come past like i was in reverse!!

All you could hear was the constant whistle, fair play it shifted & left me embarrased. :ashamed:

I assume it was standard as it was a 61 plate, also my golf is standard, anybody had similar experiences??

:confused:

I'd get your car checked :popcornsoda:
Title: Re: Mk5 gti v Fabia VRS
Post by: Upperoilcan on January 31, 2012, 05:51:44 pm: :signLOL: Checked and then remapped.
Title: Re: Mk5 gti v Fabia VRS
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 31, 2012, 06:03:54 pm: hahaha brilliant :P

Nobody likes being beaten by a Skoda :grin: ASK JUSSA, he traded in his Revo Stage 2+ GTI in for a stage 2+ S3 because he couldnt stand the shame of me beating him up the strip :driver: :P :P

Quote from: GarethB on January 31, 2012, 05:49:47 pm
(hides and waits for Janner Sy) :wink:

Im here :booty: :booty:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fk97%2Fteflontom%2Fskodakissqm3.gif&hash=7ed1388ef94189dbfbe383f9570358dd2436193f)

Not sure why you are surprised tbh.

vRS Standard 180ps@1240kg = 145Hp/ton with DSG and very close ratio gears.
GTI standard 200ps@1450kg = 137Hp/ton

So std vs std he should win. If he mullered you, id imagine he was mapped. Mines only 213hp and it'll keep up with a stage 2+ GTI with 280hp.
Title: Re: Mk5 gti v Fabia VRS
Post by: Gladiator on January 31, 2012, 07:32:26 pm: I had a play with a new Ibiza Cupra in my Eddie recently, was very surprised on how well it kept up with me although I don't pretend to be the worlds best driver!

We only got up to about 85mph due to the roads and traffic so I'm sure I would have pulled away had the speedo gone any further :driver: but still a quick little car nonetheless!
Title: Re: Mk5 gti v Fabia VRS
Post by: RENNTAG on January 31, 2012, 07:38:47 pm: I was behind a fabia vrs on the way to inters, he booted it out of this juction and by the time i had checked no one was coming and pulled out he was miles ahead, very quick little car :driver:
Title: Re: Mk5 gti v Fabia VRS
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 31, 2012, 07:40:58 pm: Quote from: bendy on January 31, 2012, 07:38:47 pm
I was behind a fabia vrs on the way to inters, he booted it out of this juction and by the time i had checked no one was coming and pulled out he was miles ahead, very quick little car :driver:
Was it white or blue
Title: Re: Mk5 gti v Fabia VRS
Post by: RENNTAG on January 31, 2012, 07:42:28 pm: Blue. Do you know who it was?
Title: Re: Mk5 gti v Fabia VRS
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 31, 2012, 07:49:36 pm: That would have been on the Sunday. His is stock. Did a 6.5 0-60 and 15 sec 1/4 (https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm6.staticflickr.com%2F5223%2F5876790264_c52e658d3f_z.jpg&hash=025c09cbffd1673d1a4d9dd12a5ab093a138f3e4)
Title: Re: Mk5 gti v Fabia VRS
Post by: RENNTAG on January 31, 2012, 08:15:48 pm: Yep thats the one. Very impressive :happy2:
Title: Re: Mk5 gti v Fabia VRS
Post by: Mk5 GTian on January 31, 2012, 08:35:19 pm: That is quick, but can you get one without a white roof, hitler-tash and those eyebrows? :signLOL:
Title: Re: Mk5 gti v Fabia VRS
Post by: Gladiator on January 31, 2012, 09:00:54 pm: Quote from: Mk5 GTian on January 31, 2012, 08:35:19 pm

That is quick, but can you get one without a white roof, hitler-tash and those eyebrows? :signLOL:
:signLOL:
Title: Re: Mk5 gti v Fabia VRS
Post by: perky85 on January 31, 2012, 09:34:25 pm: The 1st 1.4tsi i drove was in a mk5 golf when they were first released.

I wasn't that impressed with it, which is why i was a bit shocked when this skoda one flew by.

Mind you its alot of weight in a mk5 for that little engine to pull!!
Title: Re: Mk5 gti v Fabia VRS
Post by: JackG on January 31, 2012, 09:35:16 pm: Still not Eddie quick :laugh: standard or mapped!

However...I'm trying my hardest to get my mrs to buy a bocenegra Cupra :drool:
Title: Re: Mk5 gti v Fabia VRS
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 31, 2012, 09:56:47 pm: Quote from: perky85 on January 31, 2012, 09:34:25 pm
The 1st 1.4tsi i drove was in a mk5 golf when they were first released.

I wasn't that impressed with it, which is why i was a bit shocked when this skoda one flew by.

Mind you its alot of weight in a mk5 for that little engine to pull!!

Less power and no dsg as well
Title: Re: Mk5 gti v Fabia VRS
Post by: Greeners on January 31, 2012, 10:00:37 pm: I've been in a standard one and although quick off the mark, mid range and motorway speeds it struggled.....
Title: Re: Mk5 gti v Fabia VRS
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 31, 2012, 10:03:45 pm: Quote from: JackG on January 31, 2012, 09:35:16 pm
Still not Eddie quick :laugh: standard or mapped!

However...I'm trying my hardest to get my mrs to buy a bocenegra Cupra :drool:
Quote from: JackG on January 31, 2012, 09:35:16 pm
Still not Eddie quick :laugh: standard or mapped!:
Not a stage2+ eddy that's in another league but a full stage 2 1.4TSI wouldn't be embarassed by a stage 2 eddy. Your only talking around a 10hp per ton difference. Stage 1 eddy would be very close and probably only quicker above 3 figures.

Ask hurdy he'll back that up
Title: Re: Mk5 gti v Fabia VRS
Post by: Hurdy on January 31, 2012, 10:41:55 pm: Someone mention my name :laugh:

Greeners is right, standard they don't have a lot of grunt over 70mph.

Mapped is a different matter.

Before the Water meth i had 236bhp and 267lbft with full bolt-ons in the Polo GTI (same engine and box as vRS)and the weight is now nearing 1150kg with half a tank of fuel (but not me) in it.

5.1 seconds easily and repeatable 0-60mph and 0-100mph in justy over 13 seconds.

With the water/meth on I reckon I'm between 250 and 260bhp and 280-290lbft of torque.

Power to weight is probably around 225bhp/ton, so for a MKV DSG to have the same power to weight it would need around 320bhp.

Also remember that these little terriers have a supercharger to aid power and torque off the line and tighter stacked gear ratios too. They also come with the MKVI GTI electronic diff system to help with traction off the line.

All-in-all a mightily impressive little motor. :driver:

GTI looks good too.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ft8%2Fhurdy_album%2FloweredPoloGTIv2.jpg&hash=6eaed07ee76780f19d5a2cfadd600e73998d1879)
Title: Re: Mk5 gti v Fabia VRS
Post by: JackG on January 31, 2012, 11:04:05 pm: To be honest I'm being biast :signLOL: I work with the polo gti alot at work and standard there nippy so can't comment on a mapped one but I wish I could :party: might even be worth having a "Revo GTi polo" on the pitch just for me :driver:
Title: Re: Mk5 gti v Fabia VRS
Post by: Janner_Sy on January 31, 2012, 11:33:04 pm: This engine is so much more lively below 100mph than a KO4 TFSI and that's where 99.9% of driving is conducted. Evenon track there's not a huge advantage in the power