MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => How to Guides / Troubleshooting => Topic started by: Scott_GT_TDI on February 02, 2012, 05:30:45 pm
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Hi guys, I hope someone can help me / put my mind at rest.
I bought my 56 plate GT TDI 170 just under a month ago and the warranty from the supplying garage is about to run out. I also purchased a 2 year 3rd party warranty but would prefer to use the supplying garage first if I need to.
I just got my VCDS lead today from Gendan and had a wee shot of it this afternoon with the following results :-
VCDS Version: Release 11.11.2 (x64)
Data version: 20120126
Thursday,02,February,2012,15:28:21:58566
Chassis Type: 1K0
Scan: 01 03 08 09 15 16 17 19 25 42 44 46 52 56 62 69 72 77 7D
VIN: WVWZZZ1KZ7B035856 Mileage: 67530km/41961miles
00-Steering Angle Sensor -- Status: OK 0000
01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000
03-ABS Brakes -- Status: Malfunction 0010
08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010
09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010
15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000
16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000
17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000
19-CAN Gateway -- Status: Malfunction 0010
25-Immobilizer -- Status: OK 0000
42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000
44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000
46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000
52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000
56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000
62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000
69-Trailer -- Status: OK 0000
72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000
77-Telephone -- Status: Malfunction 0010
7D-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000
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Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-018-BMN.clb
Part No SW: 03G 906 018 DF HW: 03G 906 018 DF
Component: R4 2.0l PPD1.2 4345
Revision: --H22--- Serial number: VWZ7Z0F7057297
Coding: 0000072
Shop #: WSC 00792 210 91867
VCID: 6CDDEB044F90D63
No fault code found.
Readiness: N/A
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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 1K0-907-379-MK60-F.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 379 AC HW: 1K0 907 379 AC
Component: ESP FRONT MK60 0101
Revision: 00H11001
Coding: 0023170
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 16384
VCID: 73EFF07812AE09B
1 Fault Found:
01435 - Brake Pressure Sensor 1 (G201)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
Part No: 1K0 820 047 FH
Component: Climatic PQ35 120 0606
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 6FE7FC087E862DB
1 Fault Found:
00229 - Refrigerant Pressure
002 - Lower Limit Exceeded
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Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 937 049 E HW: 3C0 937 049 E
Component: Bordnetz-SG H37 1002
Revision: 00H37000 Serial number: 00000004288789
Coding: E5890F2700041500001400001400000000087F075C
Shop #: WSC 00046 000 81920
VCID: 2B5F28188A1E11B
Subsystem 1 - Part No: 1K2 955 119 E Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB
Component: Wischer 070706 020 0501
Coding: 00038805
Shop #: WSC 00046
Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 955 559 AE Labels: 1K0-955-559-AF.CLB
Component: RLS 110706 014 1201
Coding: 00208933
Shop #: WSC 00046
1 Fault Found:
00988 - Lamp for Brake Light; Right (M10)
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00101100
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 172
Mileage: 66577 km
Time Indication: 0
Freeze Frame:
OFF
Voltage: 12.05 V
OFF
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF
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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 1K0-909-605.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 909 605 T HW: 1K0 909 605 T
Component: 38 AIRBAG VW8 020 2300
Revision: 05020000 Serial number: 0038PD0LRVGF
Coding: 0013112
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 16384
VCID: 3D7B1640646A8FB
No fault code found.
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Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 953 549 BC HW: 1K0 953 549 BC
Component: Lenksäulenmodul 035 0070
Coding: 0000012
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 172032
VCID: 74EDF36417A00E3
No fault code found.
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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-17.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 920 963 B HW: 1K0 920 963 B
Component: KOMBIINSTRUMENT VDD 1610
Revision: V0003000 Serial number: VWZ7Z0F7057297
Coding: 0003403
Shop #: WSC 68022 476 96534
VCID: 2B5F28188A1E11B
No fault code found.
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Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 907 530 H HW: 1K0 907 951
Component: J533__Gateway H12 0150
Revision: H12 Serial number: 310010670980D9
Coding: 3D3F4BC007000003
Shop #: WSC 00815 210 06574
VCID: 2C5D2B048F10163
2 Faults Found:
00381 - Databus Instrument Cluster
004 - No Signal/Communication
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 1
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 12
00469 - Infotainment Databus in Single Wire Operation
012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01101100
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 58
Mileage: 65642 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 12:47:09
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Address 25: Immobilizer Labels: 1K0-920-xxx-25.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 920 963 B HW: 1K0 920 963 B
Component: IMMO VDD 1610
Revision: V0003000 Serial number: VWZ7Z0F7057297
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2B5F28188A1E11B
No fault code found.
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Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 701 M HW: 1K0 959 701 M
Component: Tuer-SG 005 0964
Coding: 0000692
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 303104
VCID: 387507544B48AA3
No fault code found.
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Address 44: Steering Assist Labels: 1Kx-909-14x-44.clb
Part No: 1K2 909 144 L
Component: EPS_ZFLS Kl.069 H07 1806
Shop #: WSC 02069 000 90108
VCID: 356B0E605C5A57B
No fault code found.
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Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 1K0-959-433-MAX.clb
Part No SW: 1K0 959 433 BT HW: 1K0 959 433 BT
Component: KSG PQ35 G2 020 0202
Revision: 00020000 Serial number: 00000000000000
Coding: 019002005103087F2D04840570085FC690FCA0
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 237568
VCID: 830F20B8C20EB9B
Part No: 1K0 951 605 C
Component: LIN BACKUP HORN H03 1301
Part No: 1K0 951 178
Component: Neigungssensor 001 0101
Part No: 1K0 951 178
Component: Innenraumueberw.001 0101
No fault code found.
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Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 1K0-959-702-MIN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 702 M HW: 1K0 959 702 M
Component: Tuer-SG 005 0964
Coding: 0000692
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 303104
VCID: 397302507042B3B
No fault code found.
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Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 035 186 R HW: 1K0 035 186 R
Component: Radio FO3 021 0014
Revision: 00021000 Serial number: VWZ7Z2F0022115
Coding: 0042402
Shop #: WSC 00815 815 58926
VCID: 356B0E605C5A57B
No fault code found.
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Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 1K0-959-703-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 703 K HW: 1K0 959 703 K
Component: Tuer-SG 005 0912
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 1012544
VCID: 387507544B48AA3
No fault code found.
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Address 69: Trailer Labels: 8P0-907-383.lbl
Part No SW: 8P0 907 383 HW: 8P0 907 383
Component: ANHAENGERELEKTR H01 0010
Coding: 0000001
Shop #: WSC 00815 210 06574
VCID: F6E9496C81DC9C3
No fault code found.
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Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 1K0-959-704-GEN3.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 959 704 K HW: 1K0 959 704 K
Component: Tuer-SG 005 0912
Coding: 0000144
Shop #: WSC 00046 412 1012544
VCID: 397302507042B3B
No fault code found.
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Address 77: Telephone Labels: 3C0-035-729.lbl
Part No SW: 3C0 035 729 E HW: 3C0 035 729
Component: Telefon 6009
Revision: 00009000 Serial number: 0000000796162
Coding: 0016123
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 254BDE20ECFA27B
1 Fault Found:
01042 - Control Module; Not Coded
000 - -
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01110000
Fault Priority: 3
Fault Frequency: 0
Reset counter: 0
Mileage: 1048575 km
Time Indication: 1
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Address 7D: Aux. Heat Labels: 1K0-963-235.lbl
Part No SW: 1K0 963 235 E HW: 1K0 963 235 E
Component: PTC-Element 0404
Revision: 00800000 Serial number:
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2D5B2600B40A1FB
No fault code found.
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Now, I have NO ESP warning light on the dashboard but it is showing a fault on vcds
What is going on? is it a historical fault that has already been fixed but not cleared? The ESP light does not come on when I press the ESP button near the ashtray, nor does any kind of button illumination happen.
Also any other help with the other faults would be cool if you can.
Thanks in advance,
Scott
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Do the 'ABS' and 'ESP' symbols light up when you start the car? They should, and they go off after a few seconds. Then when you try to turn the car on, the lights come back on and go off when the car has started.
If they don't light up, it sounds like you've been sold a car with a dodgy ABS pump.
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Is that the most likely thing? Surely if its faulty then some sort of light should come on on the instruments?
I'm worrying that this is going to cost a packet :(
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Now i dont want to worry you but i know of car dealers who remove the cluster and use black silicon on and around the ABS or ESP or ECU light so even tho its lite up you cant see it because its full of silicon
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Well when I was messing about with VCDS in the abs section and went onto the wheel speed sensor bit to check they were all working, the abs light came on whilst I was in that module so I guess that hasnt happened, the dealership I bought it from has an incredibly good reputation so I cant see that happening, fingers crossed. Should the ESP button light up when I press it?
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Well when I was messing about with VCDS in the abs section and went onto the wheel speed sensor bit to check they were all working, the abs light came on whilst I was in that module so I guess that hasnt happened, the dealership I bought it from has an incredibly good reputation so I cant see that happening, fingers crossed. Should the ESP button light up when I press it?
Right when you turn the ign key on the ESP and ABS should light up, when started they should both go off, when you press the ESP button the word ESP OFF will light up on the button and the ESP light will come on on the cluster, as your ABS light comes on when you go in to the ABS that should be fine
At no point did i say the garage you got the car from has done it (if it has been done) anyone could have done it, and the mileage on the car is good, im prob wrong but ive come across this loads of times over the years
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Right, the ABS light comes on and goes out, but the ESP light does not come on at all. I am struggling to find any similar issues using the search facility on here.
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Right, the ABS light comes on and goes out, but the ESP light does not come on at all. I am struggling to find any similar issues using the search facility on here.
normally if there is a fault with the ESP the light will be on all the time, yours not coming on at all is a bit of a worry, what happens when you press the ESP button? if you try can you spin the wheels? if you can spin the wheels then your ESP isnt working as it should be, try doing this and then again after pressing the esp button
about a yr ago i somehow managed to put my ESP in to a program mode, the light was on all the time and the button didnt do anything, i finished the re programming and the light went out, now it could be the ABS is spot on and the esp is at fault, if you wanna find out take your dash out take the back off it and see if the ESP hole is full of silicon, would make sense TBH
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I can deffinately spin my wheels, thats what made me concerned about a possible problem.
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You have a faulty ABS pump, someone has tinkered to hide it.
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Is that 100% certain Eddie? as I do not want to go in with my size 12's on to then look like an idiot lol. Any ideas on what I should say to them? If this is the case, then I am going to be incredibly annoyed :mad:
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try to Clear the fault, if you can't or it comes straight back.
Go and see them, there obviously is a fault in the system
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g201 is a dead pump . been there done that
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and i have a spare pm me if needed
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Gillm, did you have to pay yourself? was it expensive?
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my dealer didnt want to know as i was out of warrenty , and didnt want to help as a good will thing either . i bought one off ebay that didnt turn up in time for my mot so i got a mate to order me the pump , then the ebay pump arrived lol (now back on ebay) . i fitted it myself which was easy and took about a hour .£main dealer wanted £1800 to supply and fit a new one
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Ive been reading ross-tech website and theres possible causes under the fault code of just the brake pedal switch or the system needing a re-bleed. What are the possibilities of it being one of those? Or am I trying to be too optimistic? :(
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I tried a re bleed and it did nothing , think you are pissing in the wind really . If you can use a spanner and bleed brakes and access to vag com it's a DIY job
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Ive just phoned them as its still under warranty, guy is calling me back. I am handy with a spanner yes, but feel I should be using the warranty to do this. Its going in for its injector recall soon too then hopefully all will be well :)
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Ive been reading ross-tech website and theres possible causes under the fault code of just the brake pedal switch or the system needing a re-bleed. What are the possibilities of it being one of those? Or am I trying to be too optimistic? :(
do your brake lights work when you press on the pedal?
if they dont then it could be the switch
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Unfortunately they do Eddie :( Wish it was an easy fix like that.
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Mine had the same problem, it's a well documented fault, complain to vw uk and they should sort some discount if you go that route. I got 10% off the repair kit and fitted it myself, dealers even carry the repair kits on the shelf which tells you how common it is! :laugh:
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What does the repair kit involve Lee?
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The repair kit is the hydraulic part of the pump, the metal part where all the brake pipes screw into, it separates from the ABS ecu.
I think they are about £160 from TPS, but its been a while since I last ordered one. :happy2:
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Does it matter that my fault code is an electrical fault in that case? I'm presuming that its the ECU side of it that is my cars issue?
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Does it matter that my fault code is an electrical fault in that case? I'm presuming that its the ECU side of it that is my cars issue?
The ABS pump / Ecu consists of 2 parts with the sensor in the middle.
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If and its a very big if, you knew someone handy with a soldering iron you can remove the ECU and open it up, look across the printed board and find the faulty solder joints, i work for a Volvo indy (not for much longer) and the V40's and V70s use the same ECU, we have never had to replace them as its always a break in a solder joint or 2, but if its still under warranty then id leave it to them to fix mate
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Thats very interesting as it turns out, I am handy with a soldering iron. I will bear that in mind thanks mate :happy2:
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Ive had the same problem on my 1.6FSI... its only done 28k when the ESP light came on permanently.... typed something along the lines of 'mk5 golf esp light on' and honest john review showed literally hundreds of mk5 owners with the same dreaded G201 / ESP Failure/problem...
Plugged it into VAGCOM to verify it was the G201 sensor.. it was!
This is where it gets interesting...
Took it to VW - West London - spoke to one of the service advisors. Described the problem... and he acknowledged it straight away, although choosing his words very carefully as not to admit that its a common fault..
Firstly they wanted £90 to carry out their own diagnostics.. even tho i gave them a printout done by my own garage..
Now since my cars out of Warranty, they wouldnt touch it... they did however offer a 'goodwill offer' of £600 for a repair kit.. which he said would of been only £300 had my car had a full VW service history (Which it didnt due to me being the 2nd owner and the first owner servicing elsewhere)...
On the upside...Local garage has quoted me around £200... Inc parts..
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I don't believe this particular fault lies within the ecu, the repair kit has a new valve block and pump, you retain your original ecu.
The kit comes with instructions and there's a fairly decent write up here - http://briskoda.net/forums/topic/190784-how-to-repair-espabs-fault-with-vag-repair-kit/
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See, here lies my confusion, every other fault I have researched by doing countless searches on here and google in general, they all state that the ESP light came on and stayed on. Barring what has already been suggested about the black silicone covering the light, my light is NOT on. Its all very strange.
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Gave my car into VW West London 3days ago for a major service, told them to look into the ESP light being constantly on... paid for the diagnostics charge for this..
cars 6years old, well outside the warranty cover, modified like hell and
they gave me 100% Goodwill cover!!!! :smiley:
Replaced the whole ABS/pump module, gave the car a full service, changed the brake fluid, and washed the whole car for the price of £279 - which is what they charge for a full major service.. they even took off the initial diagnostics charge...
Happy days!