MK5 Golf GTI

General => Product Reviews => Topic started by: RedRobin on April 26, 2009, 10:52:59 pm

Title: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on April 26, 2009, 10:52:59 pm
....

I must admit that when I first saw these available on the OSIR web site I wasn't very keen. However, since seeing them in the flesh on Neil's Candy White GTI I changed my mind.


WHY?

- Because they would house my aftermarket Hella LED Daylight Running Lights far more satisfactorily.

- For cosmetic reasons. I have never liked the OEM imitation grills and even with open vents the square shape looks like an afterthought and the design consequently appears not stylistically resolved.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FRED_frontlightsdetail.jpg&hash=db3b64bb884281fde186b2d27159a086a89d9bb1)

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SOURCING:

Available through the TTshop who are exclusive distributors for OSIR in Europe.

Contact : - Abi or Justin 01234 855 555

Pricing is unreliable in the current financial climate due to being made in Hong Kong and the exchange rate. If you need to ask, you can't afford it.


INSTALLATION:

Two methods. The simplest one is to drill a small hole in the bodywork to receive the self-tapping Allen key screw - One for each panel, so a total of two.

The other method is to remove the whole front bumper assembly and use the concealed tabs on the back of the carbon panels. OSIR have thoughtfully not drilled the front of the carbon in case this second method is preferred and have provided a soft recess to locate and be a guide for drilling.

You could, of course, do both methods.

A good friend of mine, Dan, works in real carbonfibre and has a well equipped workshop, so it made sense to ask his help. He dremmelled the back aperture edges to better fit the aftermarket LED DRL's. He also enamelled the fixings so they were black instead of white metal.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FCarbonfibre%2FDan_Dremmel.jpg&hash=a96009faeab524ff65ebd5898b60bff740b943b5)

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PLUS POINTS:

- Transforms the foglight panel areas of the GTI front.

- Greatly compliments an aftermarket splitter and carbonfibre nose mask.

- Being black they do not destroy the overall look of the GTI front.

- Results in a far more professionally resolved front design.

- They look quite 'motorsport'.

- They integrate my Hella DRL's perfectly instead of them protruding further with the OEM panels.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FCarbonfibre%2FCF_fogs_wigit.jpg&hash=6b9d8425825d1a434d22d4896398a9675ed63717)


MINUS POINTS:

- Expensive. Carbonfibre is always expensive.

- Takes forever and a day to acquire. They are not a best seller and so stocks are low. They may only take 48hrs to land in the UK but then the frustration begins! International Hub > National Hub > Days waiting for duty assessment > ParcelFarce > SnailMail letter sent out notifying amount of duty > Not sent until duty paid > Finally staying in to receive sometime between 9:00am - 5:30pm. Total time nearly 3 weeks!

- Check the quality. I rejected one of mine as the weave was all over the place. But it was replaced without question and quality is usually good for OSIR products. TTshop were exemplary in their help and handling.

- The fixing washers and Allen key screws are white metal and so stand out visually. Why couldn't they be supplied black?

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FCarbonfibre%2FCF_fog_side.jpg&hash=198fdb37f80a57762137a8f3fbdc9bf5c0a7c646)


SUMMARY:

An expensive mod and not really worthwhile unless you either have Hella DRL's (I think I'm still the only GTI in the UK which does!) or an aftermarket splitter, unless, of course, you simply love the look of them. For the reasons I've already described, I'm very pleased with them.

They relate very well to the other OSIR carbon parts too, including the bonnet vent.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FCarbonfibre%2FCFfogs1.jpg&hash=65273d9f8cba25a0dfaccf14d1c9cd07bbe292d5)

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Since first writing this review I've had one of the carbon panels cut to receive the tow-eye without having to remove the panel totally - The less that the self-tapping screw fix gets used, the better. On some trackday circuits it's compulsory to have both rear and front tow-eyes fitted:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FMods%2FRED_Tow_panel.jpg&hash=dd6ec608aae021a6e1eceba75c4c30a9ae79c599)
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: Top Cat on April 27, 2009, 10:23:32 am
Great write up as ever MR Robin.  :drinking:
I kind of hate and love them at the same time, for me the design needs to be recessed rather than sticking proud of the rest of the bumper, but apart from that they look great on Neil's and yours.  :happy2:
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: joesgti on April 27, 2009, 10:29:52 am
nice write up robin  :happy2:

i personally dont think they look right somehow, i think they domiate the front too much. need to see them in real life,  :happy2:

Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on April 27, 2009, 11:27:04 am
^^^^

@ TC - Yes, I agree, they'd be better if they were slightly recessed rather than fractionally proud.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FCarbonfibre%2FOSIR1.jpg&hash=c612e622fcc92828a1afe03a7d019c0c79f38dce)

@ Joe - Yes, I see your point - When the sun is on them they look much brighter and too dominant. However, in more typically English light they aren't anything like as noticeable.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FCarbonfibre%2FCF_DansLawn.jpg&hash=b4f143f9055e0566f237fae21f7f5b3949f2413c)

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Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: x5pea on April 27, 2009, 11:34:38 am
I looked at these for my Green MK5 as im really into carbon at the moment but felt they were a little too slab looking on the car.

I've found OSIR products pretty poor to be honest they look good in the pictures but the parts I've bought don't fit very well at all and each required some modification to fit.
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on April 27, 2009, 11:59:17 am

I looked at these for my Green MK5 as im really into carbon at the moment but felt they were a little too slab looking on the car.

I've found OSIR products pretty poor to be honest they look good in the pictures but the parts I've bought don't fit very well at all and each required some modification to fit.


....Again, I agree with your criticism (and appreciate you saying what you think) regarding a tendency towards 'slabbiness'. Whereas a slabbiness might be emphasised on a stock GTI (not Ed30 or Votex splitters), I think that mine is greatly helped by the carbon OSIR splitter and nose mask. Also, these new fog panels really do house my LED DRL's faaaar better, and so, although aware of the validity of the criticisms posted so far, I think they work within the context of my whole package. In fact, I would go as far as saying that they help the look of my central carbon splitter.

This pic is the best so far at illustrating what I'm trying to say : -

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Perhaps it's a bit like my quad zorsts - Close to OTT but I get away with it!

From a distance on the road, they don't alter the car's appearance : -

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[^ Oops! Not the best pic - I'll have to wait for another]
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: x5pea on April 27, 2009, 12:05:14 pm
I hear you, just that used to seeing a grill in the bumper that i think it looks too flat, each to their own.

I like the carbon mask on the grill   :happy2:
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: tony_danza on April 27, 2009, 12:14:58 pm
Undecided.

On yours, I get it because they blend with the other carbon bits you have. On the white one, I'm not so sure they work? If they had a bigger duct I could do something with, then I may see a function over form.

Maybe I have to see them, as everything changes in the real world.
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: joesgti on April 27, 2009, 12:18:00 pm
I hear you, just that used to seeing a grill in the bumper that i think it looks too flat, each to their own.

I like the carbon mask on the grill   :happy2:

i understand what your trying to say and i aggree, it looks a little flat at the front, or the nose looks too rounded now.  :confused:
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on April 27, 2009, 12:27:51 pm

I hear you, just that used to seeing a grill in the bumper that i think it looks too flat, each to their own.


i understand what your trying to say and i aggree, it looks a little flat at the front, or the nose looks too rounded now.  :confused:


....Yes, it does make the whole front of the car more rounded and I like that because it gives the illusion of being more aerodynamic [I'm wondering what Teutonic_Tamer would be posting about this if he was around!]

As tony_danza says, you'll know if you like them or not when you see them in the real world. It is particularly difficult to capture their effect in photographs for some unknown reason.
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on April 27, 2009, 12:38:03 pm

If they had a bigger duct I could do something with, then I may see a function over form.
 

....They'd be useless for track use because you wouldn't want to be continually threading/unthreading a self-tapper to remove one panel for the Tow loop.

If you fabricated a tapered connector from slot to round, the vents could then be more specifically functional.

This is never going to be a very popular mod (like my carbon vinyl'd Recaros) but it works for my individual car's mods and use. Of course, not everyone will like their appearance.

:happy2:
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: tony_danza on April 27, 2009, 12:48:28 pm
Tow eye isn't an issue, you just use the back one instead. Suppose you could just lose the fogs and duct from there?

Your money, your car  :happy2:
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: VC on April 27, 2009, 07:47:55 pm
i love the concept, unsure of the execution tbh. too slabbed

i personally think they would look tres cool if they were reduced in size, keeping the same width from left to right but trimming the top and bottom by flushing those areas to the car and coding them red and leaving a carbon piece no higher than the diameter of the spotlight lens

as they are its the area between scoop and spot thats a bit...dunno

hopefully none of that came accross negatively mate, not meant to (hopefully you have the measure of me by now  :wink:)


Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: Hurdy on April 27, 2009, 07:57:05 pm
As you know Robin, I love all things Carbon Fibre and OSIR products are no exception. I've debated these for a while, but I decided against them as they overlap quite a bit of the central design of the car. Otherwise I'd have had them like a shot. Still look gorgeous though :happy2:
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: MAT ED30 on April 27, 2009, 08:54:41 pm
i take it they are fibreglass with carbon put over the top of them? if they are then why do they cost so much?  :confused:
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: x5pea on April 27, 2009, 09:09:41 pm
i take it they are fibreglass with carbon put over the top of them? if they are then why do they cost so much?  :confused:

yeh, cost even more now with the current state of the £ = Euro
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: john_o on April 27, 2009, 10:06:51 pm
ooo very nice RR
as ever taking the time to add headings and pics makes the writeup top notch  :happy2:  :drinking:

I can def see why they suit the DRL's you have fitted. I personally really like them.

For me they are a template as to how that area could look in terms of removing the foglights and creating horizontal accents (be that vents or audi style DRL's dunno). Add in a central piece (below the no plate also with horizontal accents) and the front could look vastly different (but removable)......
airflow etc considerations taken into account as well I guess.

Keep it up  :happy2:
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on April 27, 2009, 10:30:19 pm
^^^^
Yes, once upon a time I investigated doing Audi-style DRL's and Hella Germany even sent me some that would fit if I changed the fog panels to the horizontal bar type but I don't like the mix of those with the central honeycombe grills, and have pics of them mixed on cars in the US of A.

There are other options but they would involve even more custom work and expense.

You are right - The DRL's are principally what have driven this mod.

:happy2: :drinking:
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on April 28, 2009, 12:45:54 am
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Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: john_o on April 28, 2009, 07:52:53 am
you are such a pic whore Robin  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: NEWEY on April 28, 2009, 07:59:36 am
the more pictures you post the more i am warming to them :)
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on April 28, 2009, 08:02:48 am

you are such a pic whore Robin  :signLOL:


....You bet I am! I don't hear anyone complaining though.

I'm a bit of a poser too :grin:

:happy2:
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on April 28, 2009, 08:06:49 am

the more pictures you post the more i am warming to them :)


....I don't need much encouragement for my pic whoring! :grin:

It'll be interesting to see what you think when you see them for real - Probably at Inters - I'll be on the BIALI Motorsport stand.

[goes off to find/take more pics]
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on April 28, 2009, 11:39:02 am

As you know Robin, I love all things Carbon Fibre and OSIR products are no exception. I've debated these for a while, but I decided against them as they overlap quite a bit of the central design of the car. Otherwise I'd have had them like a shot. Still look gorgeous though :happy2:


....I know exactly what you mean about these OSIR panels extending further than stock towards the central design element, and that very consideration is what stopped me for a while. But now I don't feel that the overall look is radically changed because you still read two black 'vent' areas - In fact slightly bigger and hence more aggressive ones [bigger boobies].

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FCarbonfibre%2FCFfogs2.jpg&hash=7540023fb9ca1861d9887102ed978a1fc19bdfc3)

Having said that, I don't think that these would suit your silver GTI because you have that very subtle silver CF and it would look odd (imo) mixed with black CF. Colour coding silver or having them silver CF would radically alter the front look of the GTI as this red example shows : -

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fhomepage.mac.com%2Frisowu%2FOSIR%2Fimages%2FGTInew501_001.jpg&hash=cbae0051741eaa89ab06de9e73bd1c4d27f79da8)

Although when making side by side direct comparisons between my modded GTI and a completely stock GTI, there are many differences, I have always tried my hardest not to destroy its original design integrity with my body mods.
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on April 28, 2009, 11:45:21 am
....

A few more pics. I find that various pics convey quite differing looks to these OSIR panels.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FCarbonfibre%2FCFfogs1.jpg&hash=65273d9f8cba25a0dfaccf14d1c9cd07bbe292d5)

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Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: NEWEY on April 28, 2009, 12:12:04 pm
....

A few more pics. I find that various pics convey quite differing looks to these OSIR panels.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FCarbonfibre%2FCFfogs1.jpg&hash=65273d9f8cba25a0dfaccf14d1c9cd07bbe292d5)


i love that picture. they look brilliant in that. ill be sure to pop by at inters  :smiley:
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on April 28, 2009, 12:30:47 pm

i love that picture. they look brilliant in that. ill be sure to pop by at inters  :smiley:


....The actual vents 'relate' with the bonnet vent too.

Us BIALI Boyz will be at Inters both days. :happy2:

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FBIALI%2FBIALIBoyz_2.jpg&hash=d6112063c6dcf07dfa74173636030f12474aa6d7)

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Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: Hurdy on April 28, 2009, 07:36:55 pm
Robin,

You've hit the nail on the head. :happy2:

On my car they would look odd - even in silver.

On your car they look totally droolworthy. I am a big fan of your car and it is absolutely, one of the most beautifully put together GTI's I've seen. The recent mods only enhance this further...........now sell me those Recaro's :laugh:
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on April 28, 2009, 07:57:11 pm

I am a big fan of your car and it is absolutely, one of the most beautifully put together GTI's I've seen. The recent mods only enhance this further...........now sell me those Recaro's :laugh:


....Nice try! Now FECK OFF !! :laugh: :happy2:




Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: Hurdy on April 28, 2009, 08:04:23 pm
 :signLOL: :signLOL:

Is that a maybe then?
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on April 28, 2009, 08:56:44 pm

Is that a maybe then?


....You already know the answer! :laugh:
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on April 29, 2009, 06:11:19 pm
....

Latest pic and best yet I reckon. Am liking them more and more - They relate very strongly to the bonnet vent in the flesh.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FCarbonfibre%2FRED_29Mar09.jpg&hash=cb392f10a2f90e21e50ddcdfb72c2a2c56ed85fb)

Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: joesgti on April 30, 2009, 11:19:19 am
this forum should be re-named www.robinsmk5golfgti.co.uk  :laugh:  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: x5pea on April 30, 2009, 05:17:19 pm
this forum should be re-named www.robinsmk5golfgti.co.uk  :laugh:  :signLOL:
:signLOL: :signLOL:

Aye i was thinking that every day there was a new pic of the carbon grills

Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: Top Cat on April 30, 2009, 05:31:31 pm
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Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on April 30, 2009, 05:40:25 pm
^^^^
:signLOL:

....Always willing to oblige - A slightly different angle showing the bonnet vent a bit more : -

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Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: NeilM on April 30, 2009, 06:20:23 pm
Looking good R, fitting them is a bit of a pain you dont really want to put a hole in the front bumper do you, I dont know why they didnt make them shorter and use the same fixing holes  :laugh:
The main reason I had them was to vent the front brakes via some ducting behind the cut-outs, but it does help to have the right discs & pads  :signIWS:
I'm pleased with the other OSIR parts aswell and the CF is a good match.

 
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Neil


Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on April 30, 2009, 06:44:36 pm

Looking good R, fitting them is a bit of a pain you dont really want to put a hole in the front bumper do you, I dont know why they didnt make them shorter and use the same fixing holes  :laugh:


....Yours is looking very good, Neil - I didn't realise you also had the vented bonnet.

I discussed the question of why didn't OSIR use the stock fixing with both my mate who fixed them for me (he's very experienced in carbonfibre and fabricating other body parts) and also my friendly dealer's accident repair centre boss who has also done stuff for me. They both said that the fixing would be stronger on the shorter screw (less possibility of cantilevered leverage). But I don't know exactly why OSIR designed the panels longer (wider) than stock.

I (or rather, Dan) did drill my front bumper but it's no problem to fill the holes one day if I had to (extremely unlikely as my sales approach will be take or leave her as she is - Far too much hassle and also heartbreaking to ever put her back to stock). 

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Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: SteveP on April 30, 2009, 08:00:22 pm
I bet you can't even remember what "stock" was like Robin  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on April 30, 2009, 09:19:24 pm

I bet you can't even remember what "stock" was like Robin  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


.... :signLOL: :signLOL:

Er, where does this bit go? :grin:

Yes, whenever I see a red stock GTI (not Ed30) I think it looks very strange!

I wonder what driving the new Mk6 GTI will feel like (I'm promised a test drive).

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Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: SteveP on April 30, 2009, 09:22:32 pm

I wonder what driving the new Mk6 GTI will feel like (I'm promised a test drive).

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Me too, I will post my thoughts on the 4th of June  :happy2:
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: tony_danza on May 01, 2009, 08:52:40 am
RR - sorry if this goes off at a slight tangent, but it is kinda related.

Neil, I know you're running ducting through the vents to the arch liners - can you say you noticed any marked difference in brake performance? My thoughts would be there's too much turbulent air in the arch being generated by passing flow and the effect of the spinning wheel, so they could be refined to give better effect.

A lot of the MKI/MKII lads are running carrier ducting direct onto the disc. I'm also looking into this and am in the process of supplying hub measurements/photos and caliper locations - do you think it's something you may be interested in too?... or, anyone else for that matter.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Ff239%2Fet9aff%2FIMG_0116.jpg&hash=e4ecdab5880f25979554c8366c3159883de95d75)
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: NeilM on May 01, 2009, 09:47:03 am
That duct looks to be very close to the disc which is going to have much more of a effect than mine which just pokes through the inner plastic arch, I do notice how cold the brakes are when first applied after long run (motorway etc) should block them of when not on the track really.
I have still managed to cook a set of front discs but thats just down to a poor disc/pad setup,   not heating/cooling properly   my driving.

Neil
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: tony_danza on May 01, 2009, 10:12:01 am
I'm thinking a 2 piece set up, so you can disconnect the pipe that runs from liner to disc face for normal duty without having to mess with the grill to liner - make sense?

I'll keep you updated on progress.
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on May 01, 2009, 11:34:02 am

RR - sorry if this goes off at a slight tangent, but it is kinda related.


....No problem - It's very much related regarding how to possibly duct from these OSIR panels.

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Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: matsu on August 06, 2009, 10:03:36 am
i,m thinking i would like these on my BMP esp with my carbon grill mask holding the look together....
anyone else gotta thought?
sorry dragging up an old old thread :ashamed:
matsu
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on August 06, 2009, 11:13:52 am
^^^^
Firstly there's no need to apologise for dragging up an old thread - Especially as it's a Review and it's good that a review is updated.

I think I wrote earlier in this thread that I wasn't at all sure about buying some at first - They are expensive and really mostly cosmetic. I found them a bit bling in direct strong sunlight at first but they seem to have weathered down without losing their protective lacquer.

On my car they match the bonnet vent and front splitter exceptionally well and they also look extremely good on Neil's white GTI. I'm also particularly pleased how well they house my aftermarket Hella LED DRL's - Much better than the oem fog panels did.

Fixing is a wee bit worrying but they do stay on! If you don't remove your whole front bodywork you'll have to drill your bodywork - Something that not everyone likes to do if they plan on putting their car back to standard when selling - I've gone far too far now to even contemplate such a future action!

If you do get some (TTshop are the sole European retailers: 01234 855 555 / Ask for Abi) make sure you check the carbon weave - Real CF weave is never perfect (like vinyl is) and laying over the complex shape of the foglight recess is a tricky area. Ask TTshop to inspect them before sending to you. Riso (Mr OSIR) is now aware of the potential problem so they should be ok.

HTH  :happy2:

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Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: matsu on August 06, 2009, 01:09:51 pm
thanks mate for the reply
so you think oon black they will blend well enough or compliment what i va  already at the fron.
i,m also planning  a reiger front similar to joe and gasp horror contemplating losing the red splitter if i do, but i,m tring to work out if i can have a mini version in the middle of the reiger bumper.if that makes sense. i might ask for a photoshop as and when i buy it! :ashamed:
these are the versions i,m going for
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280318255511&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

i am hoping that as they are made by same people the grain/texture will match.
 fitting. i,m not concerned with drilling as i,ll prob have to replace the front if i decide to sell, but i doubt it, this cars a keeper :evilgrin:
thanks again for your input
matsu
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on August 06, 2009, 01:34:16 pm
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Hi matsu,

It's of course down to personal taste but I think that black carbonfibre looks very good with black bodywork - It's quite subtle.

Those on eBay look like the genuine article and OSIR operates out of Hong Kong, so. I would ask the seller to show you the reverse side. Very good price if the genuine thing. Weave looks slightly 'off' on the one we can see (lower in the pic) but not horrendous.

Re the Reiger bumper, are you aware of Joe having broken two!(?). They look the same as the one from VWR but the VWR version is thicker and stronger (race proven!). There's no point in trying to fit a central splitter section - It won't do anything and will look tacked on in my opinion. I dunno what the cost differences are but if your car is a keeper......

Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: matsu on August 06, 2009, 01:48:08 pm
haha poor joe! luv his car tho!!

i,ll look at the vwr one - have you a link?

and i,ll email seller about reverse and fitting. thanks for the tip.

shame about the splitter thing... its sort of my trademark here locally and i love the way it looks(all cred to greenouse really)
so i need another "thang" thats as distinctive but as subtle....mmmm lots of time to keep looking.
again cheers dude
matsu
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on August 06, 2009, 03:42:52 pm

i,ll look at the vwr one - have you a link?


.... www.racingline.com > Road Car Upgrades > Golf Mk5 > Body Upgrades > VWR Front Spoiler

:wink: [Perhaps RedRobin deserves a click on the Thank You star] :wink:
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: matsu on August 06, 2009, 06:09:38 pm
there was always a big fanx coming your way fella!!! :star:
and a beer if i ever get to a meet!!

fanx again
matsu
Title: Re: Review - Carbonfibre Fog Panels....
Post by: RedRobin on August 06, 2009, 06:15:03 pm
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Always glad to help if I can, matsu :happy2: [But sometimes I get it wrong!]

A chilled Ribena will do nicely (I don't drink) :drinking: