MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Johnny_tro on February 16, 2012, 11:38:28 pm
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With high mileage diesels (100k) is this sort of thing worth doing/using?
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+1 I'd like to know too :popcorn:
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Been also told - every now and again you should flush you engine with oil.....I believe you run oil through the engine (with sump plug out) while hot
Not sure if this is correct?
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That should be interesting. :popcornsoda:
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I seem to remember reading a TSB which vehemently indicated that these type of flushes were not VAG approved and were not to be used. There was some lengthy debate on Briskoda as many people were having these added to their invoice by main dealers despite them not being approved.
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I use Forte once a year usually before the MOT.
Also as for oil flush, last summer I had a sudden tappet noise, I ran Wynn's engine flush as instructed, drained the oil (jonny keep the sump plug in), changed the oil and filters and noise had gone.
If you do use any sort of flushing fluid, make sure you have everything needed for getting it out the system and to replenish your oil etc.
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Been also told - every now and again you should flush you engine with oil.....I believe you run oil through the engine (with sump plug out) while hot
Not sure if this is correct?
That's a big NO unless you want to seize your engine very quickly ! Sump plug should always be in while engine is running along with the oil !
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Apprciate the tips < please dont worry I will not be attempting this myself.
As for Forte < there is a VW garage near me that recomends it........
Do we have 'top 5 tips' to giving the engine a clean? clearing out the cobwebs so to speak
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For what its worth I used Wurth engine flush in my previous vRS at 50k miles. I never had any issues with it and it was still going fine at 67k when I sold it and as far as I know the new owner hasn't had any issues either and the car now has 84k+ miles. However I then found that VAG were dead set against them so wouldn't do it again.
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Been also told - every now and again you should flush you engine with oil.....I believe you run oil through the engine (with sump plug out) while hot
Not sure if this is correct?
That's a big NO unless you want to seize your engine very quickly ! Sump plug should always be in while engine is running along with the oil !
I didn't read that as though the engine would be running but oil simply poured in and allowed to run through and hence the engine being warm so that it flows more easily.
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Ooooo not while running!
I was told the best way to clean it through would be to....
1. Make sure the car is warm/hot - after a drive.
2. Remove the sump plug
3. Start putting the oil through and let in drain straight through.....
Kinda wash it out....and helps remove crap from the sump.
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Out of my experience Forté is one of the best additives on the market and when i worked in a garage it was all we used to recommend.
The reason VAG dealers do not like these sort of products is because most engine flushes are paraffin based which will strip protective coatings from inside the engine. They also cause the rubber seals to perish quicker as well.
As I believe Forté engine flush does not contain paraffin, Therefore making i safe to use in modern engines.
The link below show the product you need for a oil flush. The diesel treatment is for the fuel system.
http://www.forteuk.co.uk/product.php?id=43/Advanced_Formula_Motor_Flush
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I used the forte treatment on my anni pd, as did Tony Danza on here, also on his anni pd, after 50k of build up put the full bottle in on half a tank and went for a drive. I continued to do this each year few weeks before the MOT service was due, was still running like a peach when i sold it with about 72k on it.
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i had the forte fuel stuff added to my 2008 gt tdi with 123k at my last full service & my car runs like a dream :happy2:
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Ooooo not while running!
I was told the best way to clean it through would be to....
1. Make sure the car is warm/hot - after a drive.
2. Remove the sump plug
3. Start putting the oil through and let in drain straight through.....
Kinda wash it out....and helps remove crap from the sump.
Have a think about this, really. If your after a new engine, this is the way to go.
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Ooooo not while running!
I was told the best way to clean it through would be to....
1. Make sure the car is warm/hot - after a drive.
2. Remove the sump plug
3. Start putting the oil through and let in drain straight through.....
Kinda wash it out....and helps remove crap from the sump.
Have a think about this, really. If your after a new engine, this is the way to go.
Why? :confused:
It's only the same thing as letting the old oil run out the sump plug. I can't see how letting some fresh oil drain through is going to cause the need of a new engine!
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Im only saying what I was informed :sad1:
I was told it woould just flush it through and help move and small particals maybe in/around the engine and in the sump.
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Im only saying what I was informed :sad1:
I was told it woould just flush it through and help move and small particals maybe in/around the engine and in the sump.
I don't see how it would cause any harm and if you look at this tutorial i did on using wurth engine flush i did the same.
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,8030.0.html
I think people are getting confused thinking you meant having the engine running. You've pointed out that you didnt so i wouldn't worry about it. :happy2:
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Well documented :happy2:
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If you run an engine with the sump plug out while feeding in oil through the filler neck?
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If you run an engine with the sump plug out while feeding in oil through the filler neck?
I'll make this easy for you mate
Ooooo not while running!
I was told the best way to clean it through would be to....
1. Make sure the car is warm/hot - after a drive.
2. Remove the sump plug
3. Start putting the oil through and let in drain straight through.....
Kinda wash it out....and helps remove crap from the sump.
That help :grin:
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Forte motor flush and Forte diesel Treatment are the best on the market by a country mile, i stock both and have used all Forte products for the last 20 yrs and NOT ONCE have i had any problems, the diesel treatment is amazing, on older cars this treatment would clean the injectors and turn a 7% smoke reading to a 1.5%, if anyone wants a bottle of any Forte product i will let you have it at cost price :happy2:
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At work (VW) we have just started offering these flushes we use tunap flush and fuel treatment
The stuff works and it TUV approved, started last week so will start creeping in at all VW dealers
Jack
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If you run an engine with the sump plug out while feeding in oil through the filler neck?
I'll make this easy for you mate
Ooooo not while running!
I was told the best way to clean it through would be to....
1. Make sure the car is warm/hot - after a drive.
2. Remove the sump plug
3. Start putting the oil through and let in drain straight through.....
Kinda wash it out....and helps remove crap from the sump.
That help :grin:
Haha. Fair one.
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I've just had my engine flushed. I was getting problems with oil pressure which was traced to the Strainer in the oil pick up pipe being blocked.
I service my car every year (4,500 miles this year) using long life oil but when my mechanic dropped the oil and took the sump off, the sump was full of crap. He scrubbed it all out and did an engine flush before changing oil and filters. Engine now runs sweet as a nut, ready for a map :happy2:
Matt