MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Modifications & Technical Area => Performance Modifications => Topic started by: MaverickFSI on February 18, 2012, 07:02:12 pm
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Hello chaps,
Was wondering if anyone could recommend an induction kit that gives a more 'throaty' response BUT doesn't require you to butcher your standard engine cover.
Many thanks.
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Buy a 2nd hander engine cover, keep your old one and fit a Forge TTake :signLOL:
Or just put your cover for safe keeping and don't bother with a cover.
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Itg mate
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You can get the carbonaro thing that just goes onto the front of the engine cover but I cannot see the point in those at all as the air still has to pass through the standard intake as the engine cover has the airbox built into it.
The other suggestions all replace the engine cover (unless you cut it up) but provide much better gains.
ITG and Forget TwinTake seem the most popular or the Nuspeed p-Flo as a cheaper option.
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Doesn't the GruppeM intake utilise the standard engine cover?
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Doesn't the GruppeM intake utilise the standard engine cover?
Well I'm not sure but the price is just ridiculous - http://www.ppcgb.com/Gruppe-M-Carbon-Fibre-Performance-Ram-Air-Induction-Kit---VW-Golf-MK5-GTI-Turbo/prod14382/
Is there a guide to what you need to do to get the more established kits i.e. Forge/ITG to fit using the standard engine cover?
Anybody used or heard of the EVOMS kit - http://www.regal-shop.co.uk/vw/acatalog/copy_of_copy_of_copy_of_Golf_MK5_Edition_30.html - 2nd one down on page.
Cheers.
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The GruppeM will use the standard cover. Anything else will require you to chop the standard cover, use an EVOMS cover, or just run without the cover.
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The GruppeM will use the standard cover. Anything else will require you to chop the standard cover, use an EVOMS cover, or just run without the cover.
Yeah fair point. Unless you really want to be different and go with a GruppeM kit you could, instead, get a EVOMS engine cover and kit with over 200 quid change.
Do you know of anyone who has ran the GruppeM on their GTI?
Personally I'd like to retain some sort of engine cover be it a 'modified' OEM or a purpose built alternative like the EVOMS. I think the EVOMS engine cover maybe prove a better choice as when you decide to go back to standard you can fit your original one again.
What sort of performance figures could you expect with a, for example, REVO stage 1 and induction kit?
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TT-S engine cover with ITG/Twintake/EVOMS/whatever takes your fancy
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I have had both ITG(BDM copy) and the TwinTake now back to standard.
Ill be honest, I couldn't stand the noise of either, I am old(er)!
If the noise isn't an issue go for the ITG without a shadow of doubt my car had issues with the Forge and just would not adapt.
The ITG was so brutal though with Stage 2+ I had to take it off, that and the noise.
I have a Pipercross panel now and yes power drops but its much nicer to drive.
Also I found the engine can get quite dirty with no cover.
The Gruppe B looks nice though and don't forget about the BSH truseal(?)
I am considering getting hold of an engine cover and seeing if I can make it flow a bit better at work, I have access to a machine shop, without all the whooshing but with the chattering, I love that.
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I have had both ITG(BDM copy) and the TwinTake now back to standard.
Ill be honest, I couldn't stand the noise of either, I am old(er)!
If the noise isn't an issue go for the ITG without a shadow of doubt my car had issues with the Forge and just would not adapt.
The ITG was so brutal though with Stage 2+ I had to take it off, that and the noise.
I have a Pipercross panel now and yes power drops but its much nicer to drive.
Also I found the engine can get quite dirty with no cover.
The Gruppe B looks nice though and don't forget about the BSH truseal(?)
I am considering getting hold of an engine cover and seeing if I can make it flow a bit better at work, I have access to a machine shop, without all the whooshing but with the chattering, I love that.
do forget about the BSH true seal. it does the job and looks nice and OEM but it has fitting issues with Euro spec cars and their customer service is horrible. the only reason mine is still on my car is because it's hassle taking it off again.
if you want cheap and cheerful but quite good quality go for a Neuspeed P-Flo.
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Thanks for the replies chaps, some good points/advice there.
So regarding the TT-S engine cover, does it offer up straight onto the existing locators?
What's this BSH true seal you speak of? Never heard of it?
What do you guys think of this - http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/product.php?xProd=8047&xSec=10924 - Any good?
Thanks again.
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What do you guys think of this - http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/product.php?xProd=8047&xSec=10924 - Any good?
Thanks again.
I was given one and took it off because it was embarassing.
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What do you guys think of this - http://www.awesome-gti.co.uk/product.php?xProd=8047&xSec=10924 - Any good?
Thanks again.
I was given one and took it off because it was embarassing.
Really, in what sense? Was it a bit too noisey?
So the proper diverter valve is the way to go then?
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Sounds like the airbrake releasing on a lorry
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Sounds like the airbrake releasing on a lorry
:laugh: - Funny!
Well, I can see how that's not to everyone's taste!?
Do you just run a normal forge diverter valve instead then?
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Just leave the std dv on as its more than upto the job. If it bbreaks then buy another replacement. R tech have tuned a car with the forge dv and it lost 20bhp through boost bleed. I fell into the pitfall of buying aftermarket stuff and have now almost put everything back to std apart from my sfs boost hoses, hpfp internals and bcs tbe.