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Title: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: golfman on April 29, 2009, 10:06:59 pm
Just wanted to know what everyones opinions on black rims are :confused:
do they look good?
are they a pain in the ass to keep clean?
and do they look good with a reflex silver golf?
also the wheel cap nut covers has anyone sprayed them a different colour or can you get ones with vw signs on them :ashamed:
cheers golfman.
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: gazbutS3 on April 29, 2009, 10:11:34 pm
check Hurdy's car out and see what you think pal :happy2:
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: RedRobin on April 29, 2009, 11:11:48 pm
....

Most black alloys look dreadfully common and in fact have literally become dreadfully common and especially on white cars.

Unless they have stainless/polished/coloured rims they do absolutely nothing for me. Their blackness usually hides the form of the wheel and they can look like utility black steel wheels. Furthermore, they do nothing to show off a low profile tyre.

:sick:
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: wigit on April 30, 2009, 12:14:15 am
with RR on the contrat around the rim on black
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: Edition30 on April 30, 2009, 02:18:41 am
Anthracite (sp?) are much better.
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: BeezerDiesel on April 30, 2009, 04:41:08 am
Some black alloys look okay and some don't. Things like Pro Race 1.2s look fine in black and keep the motorsport theme they come from.
I adore the Euro ED30 monzas in matt black and I also think the Leon Cupra's optional black alloys look really good on it.

So basically as ever you need to carefully match up the style of wheel to the car and then factor in the colour. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. Just like painting your walls in the house. You can see a lovely shade of blue in someone else's house, splatter it on your own walls and it can look awful.

So I'm sort of half a fan of black wheels, and half of my car stable has black wheels too!!! On top of that I keep thinking about getting my 17inch Monzas painted black for winter use.
Oh, and to answer the other question, black rims are just as big a PITA to keep clean as silver or white or whatever colour ones. I've got black rims on my Ibiza and they are as bad as my Golf's BBS to keep looking clean and tidy.
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: RedRobin on April 30, 2009, 07:19:24 am

So basically as ever you need to carefully match up the style of wheel to the car and then factor in the colour. Sometimes it works, sometimes not. Just like painting your walls in the house. You can see a lovely shade of blue in someone else's house, splatter it on your own walls and it can look awful.


....Agreed and very well put.

My previous post was certainly a more general and sweeping comment.
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: matsu on April 30, 2009, 08:04:22 am
personally i dont like them in general but then  i see a car like greenouse's with them monzas :drool:
and think yep yep yep!
so as already said it comes down to the individual car and how it all fits together!
not that any of that helps you lol
matsu
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: CocoPops on April 30, 2009, 08:07:51 am
I think it's a very personal opinion, as are most wheels.

I love my gloss black pescaras on my silver car, but in saying its a personal opinion, I don't like what Robin has done to his Monza's as I think it takes the edge away from them and makes them look cheaper than they are in reality.

So yes, I think it's really up to you to make the decision.
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Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: RedRobin on April 30, 2009, 09:09:28 am

I think it's a very personal opinion, as are most wheels.

I love my gloss black pescaras on my silver car, but in saying its a personal opinion, I don't like what Robin has done to his Monza's as I think it takes the edge away from them and makes them look cheaper than they are in reality.


....For me, your black Pescara's would be transformed if they had a silver rim and would particularly suit the car being silver. (Like Hurdy's?)

Do you remember what my stock Monza's were like with white worm? Here's a reminder : -

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I let my white worm go for longer than anyone else here has and so mine was a good example for others to see how the dreaded worm progresses. What was I to do? Refurb every year or so while bearing the scars until it was extensive enough to do? Refurb as soon as any white worm started to appear? Change to a different wheel? - No, I like the Monza's far too much and they are very easy to clean - I don't like to spend half my life cleaning and detailing - What's the point? This is England not California.

My solution was to retain the Monza as it is one of the defining elements of the Mk5 GTI - Just as the Pescara is to the Ed30 - You painted yours, I painted mine - It is as you say a choice of personal taste.

As Dolly Parton once said : -

"It costs a lot of money to look this cheap!"

:smiley:
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: Gene Hunt on April 30, 2009, 09:11:23 am
Don't do anything for  me,they always  look dirty.
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: Greeners on April 30, 2009, 09:28:30 am
To keep things in perspective, yes Black wheels have become more popular but will never be as common as Silver wheels!  :wink:

The other thing to consider is, having a rim/lip in a contrasting colour can give the illusion on some wheels that the actual wheels are smaller than they are. One (Black/Anthractite etc) colour does not tend to give this illusion.  :happy2:

Black wheels FTW!  :jumpmove:
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: CocoPops on April 30, 2009, 09:31:29 am
It is as you say a choice of personal taste.

 :happy2: Exactly that.  :signIWS: (Obviously not calling you stupid, but there's no sign that says "Yeah that" or "I agree with him" ) :jumping:
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: RedRobin on April 30, 2009, 09:38:09 am

To keep things in perspective, yes Black wheels have become more popular but will never be as common as Silver wheels!  :wink:


....I used the term "common" in the sense of showing a lack of taste or refinement, not numerically. I think a lot of people have black wheels just because others do and it's fashionable.

Personally I like some but not many, black wheels and it does depend on the overall package. Looks very good on yours for example.

But it is of course down to each individual and even though I might express my own opinions quite strongly, I do respect others. :smiley:
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: tony_danza on April 30, 2009, 09:41:09 am
Whammy!

I think satin/matte looks better than gloss in most cases. On a silver car they work well, although so do steel grey ones.

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Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: RedRobin on April 30, 2009, 09:46:10 am
^^^^
Now that "satin" is a black I can like! :happy2: 8) :happy2:
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: tony_danza on April 30, 2009, 10:05:23 am
As with anything RR - right car, right wheels, right type of black.

A bit of consideration and thought and they will always look stunning, and won't lump you in with the "common" lot who have just gone and bought some off the Halfords shelf.
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: RedRobin on April 30, 2009, 10:29:53 am
^^^^
@ tony_danza

Very much agreed :happy2: 8) :happy2:
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: TurboTrev on April 30, 2009, 10:50:10 am
Can look good and bad, depending on the style and colour of the car.  I personally dislike black alloys with a coloured rim or too big a polished/stainless lip, for me you can't beat BBS CH Black Editions.
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: Harm on April 30, 2009, 11:22:59 am
I quite like black wheels....like the moody-ness of them all, a bit more menacing!

But i would say that as i have satin black wheels on mine....as RR said it nice to break up the tyre from the rim, and the silver edge works really well as in the BBS CH's.
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: crimson on April 30, 2009, 01:13:43 pm
I would go as far as an anthracite finish on rims, but not black - I think they would be too hard to keep clean
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: candy turbo on April 30, 2009, 02:49:09 pm
i love mine (anthacite ) so i dont care what any one else thinks !
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Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: RedRobin on April 30, 2009, 03:35:03 pm

i love mine (anthacite ) so i dont care what any one else thinks !


....And we love you for loving them! :grouphug:

Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: BeezerDiesel on April 30, 2009, 04:03:35 pm

 I don't like to spend half my life cleaning and detailing - What's the point? This is England not California.


I know it's a little off topic but Amen to that! Glad I'm not alone in that sort of sentiment  :happy2:
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: neo66 on April 30, 2009, 06:38:52 pm
I like black alloys as where I live not many peeps have them, nor is there any Gti's/R32's!
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: golfman on April 30, 2009, 07:17:41 pm
Can anyone please photochop my alloys to black for me please to give me an idea what they would look like :happy2:
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cheers golfman
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: Top Cat on April 30, 2009, 07:27:11 pm
I would stick with siver the black doesn't work for me on yours  :innocent:

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Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: golfman on April 30, 2009, 07:34:23 pm
I would stick with siver the black doesn't work for me on yours  :innocent:

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Oh god youv'e killed my car :grin: :grin:
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: Hurdy on April 30, 2009, 07:45:33 pm
Someone mention black CH's? :innocent:

I've always liked black on silver and the CH's look :drool: otherwise I wouldn't have spent the money on them that I did.

Some blacks look too OTT, as do some finishes. You need to be careful when choosing. I'd say Black is easier to maintain than silver, but you MUST seal the finish in properly to keep it looking that way. :happy2:

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Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: golfman on April 30, 2009, 08:05:36 pm
Im gonna get mine refurbed and matt black finish to match my grille and wing mirrors until i can afford new black bbs ch's :happy2:
need to get a new clutch this year and start saving for them great looking alloys on your car mate :wink:
car looks mint 8)
Title: Re: Black alloys whats everyones opinion?
Post by: TurboTrev on April 30, 2009, 08:14:53 pm

but you MUST seal the finish in properly to keep it looking that way.

What did you use to seal them?  Thanks.