MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: donovan2123 on February 28, 2012, 09:21:09 am
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I have been looking for alternative intakes for the tfsi. I am after somthing that looks OEM and isn't to loud and came across this Volant intake system which is produced in the USA.
Now I have been in contact with the guys who make the kit to find out more information and this is what they said:
Gen 2 = 825cfm
Efficiency 99.97 % @.001 Micron
150,000 mile Warranty
The PowerCore filter is the only Maintenance Free (No Oiling, No Cleaning) Dry Filter on the Planet and Volant has Global Exclusivity to this filter, made by Donaldson.
Here’s a install image of our Kit – Sorry the Engine Cover is not included.
I then asked a about the maf housing and they say it has been correctly scaled which means it shouldn't cause any fuel trim issues which is a bonus.
So anyone interested in knowing more information about this intake they said on a standard car it gave 17bhp and min 20lbft torque. These figure may be better in the UK with our weather.
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WOW, love the look of that, very clean and the intake diameter is sick.......
That looks like a K04 or a K03 with a DV relocation, assuming the space age looking pipe work running down the side of the engine cover piping?
How much are these bad boys?
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That looks like a K04 or a K03 with a DV relocation, assuming the space age looking pipe work running down the side of the engine cover piping?
It's an Americanism. Noise pipe or something not a relocated DV. :smiley:
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Retail on the kit is $390.00
Export Cost is $234.00
Shipping USPS (Us Mail) = $75.00
however he has already mentioned a much better price can be had depending on order size to uk.
Of course that depends on numbers. Picture is of there gen 1 but gen 2 has a beter free flowing filter.
It must be dv relocation as definitely isn't ko4
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that looks brilliant
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Not sure why all ours are different design.
The intake looks great, i like that fact that the pipe is tapered. :happy2:
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Whats the export cost all about?
I might ask my mate to get me one and send it over.
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There will be a wait as there not available yet until start of April. Hence I do not have one yet to try out. However if there is interest then costs will be less. I have a feeling the export cost is what they will charge if a few are bought instead of just one.
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Not sure why all ours are different design.
The intake looks great, i like that fact that the pipe is tapered. :happy2:
It's the noise pipe fitted to all LHD k03 cars, and K04 LHD cars also. :wink:
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But why is it a different design to the RHD one? Serves the same purpose does it not?
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But why is it a different design to the RHD one? Serves the same purpose does it not?
RHD cars don't have it, the steering wheel is in the way, instead of this pipe you guys have the driver screaming :P
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Carbon Fibre Pr0n (http://www.flickr.com/photos/richwigley/5054245440/) by Rich Wigley (http://www.flickr.com/people/richwigley/), on Flickr
Pipe on left of engine cover :confused:
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I really like that. Looks very OEM, no doubt its nice and quiet, it incorporates two cold air feeds: slam panel and headlight, also like the tapered pipe design.
What's the filter size? I'm guessing from the diameter of the pipe entering the box, its a monster
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Carbon Fibre Pr0n (http://www.flickr.com/photos/richwigley/5054245440/) by Rich Wigley (http://www.flickr.com/people/richwigley/), on Flickr
Pipe on left of engine cover :confused:
Pipe on this picture is for the DV which you can spot to the left of the carbonio, the triangular hard pipe is for the noise machine on LHD cars. :happy2:
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Here's a picture from a german ED30, the entire tube
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On a german ED30 K04 the DV is located just above the turbo on the inlet.
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This is the soundgenerator which is located where your steering coloumn is
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Ohhh i see. :happy2:
So what noise does that thing make?
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Ohhh i see. :happy2:
So what noise does that thing make?
GTI noise :innocent:
It's the story of some german vw technicians taking part in the munich beerfestival, and on the third day they proclaimed " wir sollen eine GTI sound lautsprecher haben, SERVUS" :grin:
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WTF?? :signLOL:
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I'd be interested in group buy! :smiley:
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+1, depending on price.
@ Donovan - are these available for the Tsi?
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:drool: I love that induction kit... Could potentially be interested depending on prices too.
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+1, depending on price.
@ Donovan - are these available for the Tsi?
+2 makes a difference to seeing an ITG or twintake, like the look if it myself, depending on price and assuming it fits my K04 Ed30 I would take one!. :happy2:
Link below for more pics of it before fitting
http://www.golfmkv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142587
They are also on ebay for $266USD (about £172 inc free USA shipping, handy if you have a mate over there to forward it on to you!) :happy2:
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How does this intake cope with movement of the engine relative to the shrouding behind the nearside headlight?
It appears rigidly mounted to the head at the gearbox end, so movement has to be absorbed by the pipe between there and the shrouding?
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Been looking at the various intakes myself and do like the look of this one. Would be interested in a GB too depending on final pricing.
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http://www.volant.com/3dkls/iddb/Tfile/FILE/intakes/image/VW/411520_lg.jpg
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http://www.volant.com/3dkls/iddb/Tfile/FILE/intakes/image/VW/411520_lg.jpg
At around £170 they seem to be priced well, add to that shipping and VAT its likely around £240?.
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At present i dont believe there is a version for ko4 but i think this could change if there was enough interest and im sure they could knock somthing up. Also from what i can see nothing for the TSI yet.
As for the one on ebay that is the gen 1 kit with gen 2 not being available intill april. This is why i havent already bought one as i am waiting for the gen 2 which should produce beter results in terms of power and torque.
For engine movment question to answer this is simple "I dont have a clue"
How ever if people want to leave me some questions to ask i can copy them all and email the guy who makes them and see what he say's.
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http://www.volant.com/3dkls/iddb/Tfile/FILE/intakes/image/VW/411520_lg.jpg
At around £170 they seem to be priced well, add to that shipping and VAT its likely around £240?.
£170?????? $390 is about £240 mate, then you got import tax and delivery
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http://www.volant.com/3dkls/iddb/Tfile/FILE/intakes/image/VW/411520_lg.jpg
At around £170 they seem to be priced well, add to that shipping and VAT its likely around £240?.
£170?????? $390 is about £240 mate, then you got import tax and delivery
Err not if you buy from here its not :P
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/300613063489?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649
That equates to £168.30 and its cheaper if you buy direct, a quick 5 min search on google saw one for $262USD free shipping in USA (shipped to a mate he forwards it on) this cuts out the common "handling charges" and shipping profiteering from US companies (quite common to pay $50 shipping to see a $29 label stuck to box!!, thats one hell of a charge for writing 4 words on a customs label :ashamed:)
Import tax there is none, only VAT to pay plus any parcelforce charges that may occur (£8.50 or £13.50), sometimes better to ship UPS or fedex as they dont charge that fee (or they did not up until 3 weeks back when I last got a package from USA and paid customs on it!).
Also another tip is to have it shipped in a pre-paid box (which does not state shipping price on it) this way you dont get charged VAT on the postage cost as well, as UK gove charge VAT on both declared value and then add postage cost before calculating VAT, robbers (You still pay VAT on the declared item value whatever that may be!) :happy2:
If a shop is selling retail at $262USD there are discounts to be had for multi-buys direct from manufacturer, they may even do better deals to have their product on show in UK (Expanding markets and all that!)
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At present i dont believe there is a version for ko4 but i think this could change if there was enough interest and im sure they could knock somthing up. Also from what i can see nothing for the TSI yet.
As for the one on ebay that is the gen 1 kit with gen 2 not being available intill april. This is why i havent already bought one as i am waiting for the gen 2 which should produce beter results in terms of power and torque.
For engine movment question to answer this is simple "I dont have a clue"
How ever if people want to leave me some questions to ask i can copy them all and email the guy who makes them and see what he say's.
Ask him if they plan to do K04 version or if they supply a pipe to fit (are they not the same housing, only different blades, is aperture not same?)
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I have had a response.
No plans for KO4 cars full stop from sounds of it! Although i reckon it would be to hard to adapt a kit for ko4.
The new 2.0TSi found in the new GTI is somthing there currently making and ETA is 8-12 weeks.
Also to answer the engine movment question there response is below
"We have sold 100's of intakes, tested on my personal car "2006 GTI" for over a year without any fitment or performance issues"
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What are the chances of arranging a group buy and any idea what the costs would be?
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Yes we could arrange a group buy. But it wouldnt be intill april-may time as this is when the newer generation 2 kit comes out which apparantly looks the same but flows much beter than gen 1.
They have told me to email them first week of april in regards to group buy or buying.
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Gen 1 = 700cfm
Gen 2 = 825cfm
The only difference between gen 1 and 2 will be the filter. So what you see on first page is what you will get With the new gen 2 filter, if we get a group buy going next month.
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I have had a response.
No plans for KO4 cars full stop from sounds of it! Although i reckon it would be to hard to adapt a kit for ko4.
The new 2.0TSi found in the new GTI is somthing there currently making and ETA is 8-12 weeks.
Also to answer the engine movment question there response is below
"We have sold 100's of intakes, tested on my personal car "2006 GTI" for over a year without any fitment or performance issues"
Did you mean "Although i reckon it would NOT be to hard to adapt a kit for ko4?"
Or is there no way?. I though inlet pipes were same?, diameter fitting etc?, or am I wrong?
Anyone?
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Well i dont have a ko4 so i am not 100% sure but i reckon a adaptor which adds a connection at the intake for you to put the rubber pipe would do the job.
I have seen these type of connectors before when trying to connect a boost guage to rubber, silicone or plastic which can not be tapped.
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I was just wondering if the intake port (where rubber pipe attaches from turbo to the Volant) is same size on K03 as K04?
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That i dont know. But im sure someone on here will no the answer.
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Also need to check that the pipe diameter were the MAF is the correct size otherwise will cause problems.
I'm currently looking into an intake and have been for ages but haven't found one that works for me yet. If you do get one keep us all updated with a small review / dyno results etc.
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Gen 1 = 700cfm
Gen 2 = 825cfm
The only difference between gen 1 and 2 will be the filter. So what you see on first page is what you will get With the new gen 2 filter, if we get a group buy going next month.
Is this group buy going to happen? id be interested depending on price! (you could be checky and like someone mentioned expanding market and that the cars attend shows regularly and try and squeeze a little off :innocent: )
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Any sort of update on this. It looks the shizzle.
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i'm interested too...
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I really like that. Looks very OEM, no doubt its nice and quiet, it incorporates two cold air feeds: slam panel and headlight, also like the tapered pipe design.
What's the filter size? I'm guessing from the diameter of the pipe entering the box, its a monster
....I like the look of that too - Not just the styling but that it takes air from both sources like the Forge Twintake does. The only advantage the Twintake would have is a much larger total filter surface area with its twin filters.
And where is that carbon engine cover available from!? :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
Bigger n better pics?
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I was just wondering if the intake port (where rubber pipe attaches from turbo to the Volant) is same size on K03 as K04?
Yes they are the only difference is the air pipe take off for the DV. Hence you can fit a K04 Twintake to a K03 and use the supplied bung to block the pipe off :happy2:
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I wonder how this one compares to the BCS one
http://www.bcsautomotive.co.uk/product_description.php?PNo=98
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I wonder how this one compares to the BCS one
http://www.bcsautomotive.co.uk/product_description.php?PNo=98
When I was up at BCS I asked Nige/Dave if they planned on selling the BCS Intake (Which was a shame as I did not want Twintake or ITG on my car) and they told me there were no plans to make it currently, unless thats changed?.
Volant or A.W.E. are other options (The BCS system is similar to A.W.E. system)
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Production has been pushed back to June now. Although gen 1 kits are available to buy now and only difference I know of is the filter type used.
We could however see about the gen 1 kits(pictured)
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Which was a shame as I did not want Twintake or ITG on my car
....Any particular reason apart perhaps from cost? Sound?
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id be interested in a gen one if thr price was right, if its only the filter then its easily upgradable surely? (just swap the gen 1 filter for the gen 2)
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Which was a shame as I did not want Twintake or ITG on my car
....Any particular reason apart perhaps from cost? Sound?
Hey RR, cost sound and the fact that everyone else has ITG or Twintake mate (bit like everyone either having Revo or APR, im going with a different tuner, and everyone seems to have Milltek so im getting BCS) I want to be different (Wolf Not Sheep :signLOL:) and also closed box designs (in my opinion) look more OE than a big pipe and filter and are likely to be a bit quieter too :happy2:
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As above, if it's just a filter change from 1 to 2 then count me in too for a Gen 1 setup.
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Production has been pushed back to June now. Although gen 1 kits are available to buy now and only difference I know of is the filter type used.
We could however see about the gen 1 kits(pictured)
Would be interested in price on gen 1 intake and will add the 25mm adaptor myself (or pay someone to do it :happy2:).
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As above, if it's just a filter change from 1 to 2 then count me in too for a Gen 1 setup.
....It's probably a good idea for you guys to double check that their Gen 2 filter will fit your Gen 1 kit or you'll be miffed (muffed? :grin:) - Pissed off might be a better choice of words.
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Yep, will be waiting to hear back on the exact differences between 1 & 2. Either way, it's got to be better than stock. :happy2:
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Which was a shame as I did not want Twintake or ITG on my car
....Any particular reason apart perhaps from cost? Sound?
Hey RR, cost sound and the fact that everyone else has ITG or Twintake mate (bit like everyone either having Revo or APR, im going with a different tuner, and everyone seems to have Milltek so im getting BCS) I want to be different (Wolf Not Sheep :signLOL:) and also closed box designs (in my opinion) look more OE than a big pipe and filter and are likely to be a bit quieter too :happy2:
....Hey! :happy2:
Yes, enclosed filter systems are slightly quieter than open filters.
I must say that this Volant looks like a nice system and not unlike the carbon one brought out in America for the Mk5 GTI a few years ago by the company (whose name I forget) who do intakes for BMW's - It cost over 700 squid though!! No-one told them that the GTI ain't a CSL!
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Which was a shame as I did not want Twintake or ITG on my car
....Any particular reason apart perhaps from cost? Sound?
Hey RR, cost sound and the fact that everyone else has ITG or Twintake mate (bit like everyone either having Revo or APR, im going with a different tuner, and everyone seems to have Milltek so im getting BCS) I want to be different (Wolf Not Sheep :signLOL:) and also closed box designs (in my opinion) look more OE than a big pipe and filter and are likely to be a bit quieter too :happy2:
....Hey! :happy2:
Yes, enclosed filter systems are slightly quieter than open filters.
I must say that this Volant looks like a nice system and not unlike the carbon one brought out in America for the Mk5 GTI a few years ago by the company (whose name I forget) who do intakes for BMW's - It cost over 700 squid though!! No-one told them that the GTI ain't a CSL!
Have you seen the A.W.E. intake, thats carbon and closed airbox design too.
http://www.awe-tuning.com/products/vw-1/mk5-g-j-2006/2-0t/awe-20t-ccb.html
Similar price to ITG (£340) if bought from UK supplier.
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I wonder how this one compares to the BCS one
http://www.bcsautomotive.co.uk/product_description.php?PNo=98
When I was up at BCS I asked Nige/Dave if they planned on selling the BCS Intake (Which was a shame as I did not want Twintake or ITG on my car) and they told me there were no plans to make it currently, unless thats changed?.
Volant or A.W.E. are other options (The BCS system is similar to A.W.E. system)
Having looked at both of them on the links, are they not exactly the same???? The intake pipes look identical
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Dunno mate, they look similar with subtle differences.
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Looking at the awe dyno graph of the awe kit v stock intake. There is very little difference in the graphs and they claim 8hp at the crank. To me that means its a lot of money for very little power and gain.
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Thats on a std GTI, I read somewhere else that on a K04 it was more like 15-16bhp at flywheel. Still cheaper than twintake tho and not a twintake :signLOL:
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For the money id prob go with the volant, but I dont know if that airbox would fit my octy vrs?
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I dont know mate, im probably gonna go for either Volant or AWE for my Ed30 tho.
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Well I just bit the bullett and bought the Volant Intake system for my ED30 (Will need K04 pipe adding), I had found them on ebay for $265USD inc free shipping (£168.42)to my US address (have a good mate lives there) and was going with that but after 30 minutes searching on google I found a website that had it priced at $257 Shipped and you could make an offer :happy2: so I offered $238.70 (£155) and it rejected offer :sad1: BUT it came back with a counter offer $243.47 (£158.09 Shipped) :jumpmove: so I went for it :wink:
Sorry for not waiting for the group buy, but if I see it and want it and have the money its done :signLOL:
Good thing is my mate will make sure its Well packaged for its journey to the UK :happy2:
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Brilliant :happy2:
keep us updated.
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I dont know mate, im probably gonna go for either Volant or AWE for my Ed30 tho.
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Well I just bit the bullett and bought the Volant Intake system for my ED30 (Will need K04 pipe adding), I had found them on ebay for $265USD inc free shipping (£168.42)to my US address (have a good mate lives there) and was going with that but after 30 minutes searching on google I found a website that had it priced at $257 Shipped and you could make an offer :happy2: so I offered $238.70 (£155) and it rejected offer :sad1: BUT it came back with a counter offer $243.47 (£158.09 Shipped) :jumpmove: so I went for it :wink:
Sorry for not waiting for the group buy, but if I see it and want it and have the money its done :signLOL:
Good thing is my mate will make sure its Well packaged for its journey to the UK :happy2:
So did you buy it with delivery to the UK? Or are you saying that you paid $243 shipped to your friend in the US who is then going to ship it to you?
Sorry, your last post was a little confusing. :ashamed:
So if all works well are you and your American friend going to sort a groupbuy? :popcornsoda:
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I dont know mate, im probably gonna go for either Volant or AWE for my Ed30 tho.
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Well I just bit the bullett and bought the Volant Intake system for my ED30 (Will need K04 pipe adding), I had found them on ebay for $265USD inc free shipping (£168.42)to my US address (have a good mate lives there) and was going with that but after 30 minutes searching on google I found a website that had it priced at $257 Shipped and you could make an offer :happy2: so I offered $238.70 (£155) and it rejected offer :sad1: BUT it came back with a counter offer $243.47 (£158.09 Shipped) :jumpmove: so I went for it :wink:
Sorry for not waiting for the group buy, but if I see it and want it and have the money its done :signLOL:
Good thing is my mate will make sure its Well packaged for its journey to the UK :happy2:
So did you buy it with delivery to the UK? Or are you saying that you paid $243 shipped to your friend in the US who is then going to ship it to you?
Sorry, your last post was a little confusing. :ashamed:
So if all works well are you and your American friend going to sort a groupbuy? :popcornsoda:
:smiley:
Sorry that was last post before bed, not written too clearly I think :signLOL:
The price (£158.09) includes shipping to my mate in USA, he will post it on to me at actual cost to him (I do the same for him with items he buys from UK :happy2:) so all is well (Would imagine post will be around £40) , he will also make sure its packed properly for its journey over the pond.
I was not planning on a group buy as the OP was organising that, dont want to be treading on toes do I. :happy2:
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I dont know mate, im probably gonna go for either Volant or AWE for my Ed30 tho.
***EDIT***
Well I just bit the bullett and bought the Volant Intake system for my ED30 (Will need K04 pipe adding), I had found them on ebay for $265USD inc free shipping (£168.42)to my US address (have a good mate lives there) and was going with that but after 30 minutes searching on google I found a website that had it priced at $257 Shipped and you could make an offer :happy2: so I offered $238.70 (£155) and it rejected offer :sad1: BUT it came back with a counter offer $243.47 (£158.09 Shipped) :jumpmove: so I went for it :wink:
Sorry for not waiting for the group buy, but if I see it and want it and have the money its done :signLOL:
Good thing is my mate will make sure its Well packaged for its journey to the UK :happy2:
So did you buy it with delivery to the UK? Or are you saying that you paid $243 shipped to your friend in the US who is then going to ship it to you?
Sorry, your last post was a little confusing. :ashamed:
So if all works well are you and your American friend going to sort a groupbuy? :popcornsoda:
:smiley:
Sorry that was last post before bed, not written too clearly I think :signLOL:
The price (£158.09) includes shipping to my mate in USA, he will post it on to me at actual cost to him (I do the same for him with items he buys from UK :happy2:) so all is well (Would imagine post will be around £40) , he will also make sure its packed properly for its journey over the pond.
I was not planning on a group buy as the OP was organising that, dont want to be treading on toes do I. :happy2:
so is there actually going to be a group buy OP?
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Cheers Tam, :happy2:
Amazing price none-the-less. :laugh:
So you are looking at £200ish to your door, (plus maybe a bit for the duty) and then £26 for the K04 25mm Take-off hose adapter on ebay.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251033478062?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_1209wt_922
Looks an Awesome bit of kit. The pipe looks HUGE where it meets the air box. :laugh:
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Still, as someone else mentioned, It would be interesting to see how it handles engine movement.
It looks a very rigid design.
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Yes it will be good to see how it handles movement, I suspect that there is room at the front (Airbox side) for movement there, they designed it for best delivery of clean/cold air, cold air from front and also no pipe joins so no restriction to flow, and that large pipe at box end contains the filter hence its size :happy2:
Yes about £200 all in I hope inc shipping, then just buy the take off for £20 and get it fitted, either way it makes a difference to seeing a TT or ITG and at £150 less than those 2 :notworthy:
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Yes I will be hopefully organising a group buy.
I had response regarding gen 1 and 2 difference and the response I got was:
The Gen 2 and the Gen 1 are the same size filters, the difference is the Fluting or Channeling where the dirt is trapped – Once we have more info I will send it to you. We greatly appreciate your interest in this kit and I can assure you that once we have all the components in stock I will take good care of your Forum Members.
so I think the best thing to do is just be patient for now
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Looking at the size of the silicone hose, it is longer than other air filters and I would presume have quite a bit of flexibility in it.
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Looking at the size of the silicone hose, it is longer than other air filters and I would presume have quite a bit of flexibility in it.
Yes I would think it should be able to flex with that tapered hose, on the twintake the pipes are joined so close together with silicone tube that it would prevent flexing there anyway, so I imagine they flex only around the area where filters sit, im sure (hope) the Volant does the same.
Emailed my mate to let him know its on its way to him (got notified of shipping 20 minutes ago!), should be with him in around 5 days and with me around 10-12 days later, just gotta be patient now (not one of my strengths usually to be honest :grin: :grin:)
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I'll be interested to see how you get on with this device - I like the almost OEM appearance.
My only issue is that there's nothing I can see in the design to detach the device from the engine's movements, especially as the intake appears to attach to the gearbox end of the head. Any movement of head will be somehow transferred to the main shrouding.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fll196%2Falackofspeed%2Fintake.jpg&hash=a18407bf506df5ba4c772ad26875052454f540d3)
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:party: looking forward to more on this!
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I'll be interested to see how you get on with this device - I like the almost OEM appearance.
My only issue is that there's nothing I can see in the design to detach the device from the engine's movements, especially as the intake appears to attach to the gearbox end of the head. Any movement of head will be somehow transferred to the main shrouding.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fll196%2Falackofspeed%2Fintake.jpg&hash=a18407bf506df5ba4c772ad26875052454f540d3)
IM not sure if its actually anchored there as on the picture in post above it does not look to be anchored to me?, not sure what that is for?
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My only issue is that there's nothing I can see in the design to detach the device from the engine's movements, especially as the intake appears to attach to the gearbox end of the head. Any movement of head will be somehow transferred to the main shrouding.
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fll196%2Falackofspeed%2Fintake.jpg&hash=a18407bf506df5ba4c772ad26875052454f540d3)
IM not sure if its actually anchored there as on the picture in post above it does not look to be anchored to me?, not sure what that is for?
....There is a fixing/anchor point on the 2.0T FSI engine in the position you have red circled but under stress (from engine movement) there have been cases of it breaking:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FMods%2FEvoms%2Fbroken1.png&hash=41ce2f8f2bdd3ded4a1103509aec48a107c13022)
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The Forge Twintake doesn't rely on this fixing point. The ITG does but is made up of flexible sections either side - Pic below:
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Having engine mounts will greatly reduce engine movement. So I'm sorry to suggest that as this nice looking Volant intake is rigid one-piece pipe, if you have OEM engine mounts you already know how much engine movement there is, and so this could be a weak point IF the Volant relies on this anchor - Time will tell.
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It really should have a rubber grommet to attach it to that mounting point. Bad design IMO.
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Please don't think I'm a hater or trying to piss on the Volant parade but:
Are there any flexible sections/joins at all on the Volant? - The pics so far don't show enough detail about this aspect. I'm just raising questions which I would do if I was thinking of buying a Volant, which I would have considered if I didn't have my Twintake.
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No worries lads, im sure the fixing point can be mounted with a rubber grommet to allow movement (A simple rubber slotted grommet will suffice to allow movement back n forth) that way its attached but allows movement.
I am not fussed if there are haters or Twintake/ITG fanboys saying this n that :grin: (No offence to those that are not!), bottom line is I went with this based on the fact that I very much dislike (Hate is atoo strong a word) the Twintake and ITG (They are like dog nuggets in a public park :grin:) and the fact that this is around £200 rather than £360 helped on the decision.
Time will indeed tell if it performs (I am not chasing massive BHP numbers) and if its a bad design, either way I like the look of it being more OEM looking in my mind.
We shall see what happens.
Just got to get together the money for the BCS TBE Valvetech exhaust and get them fitted along with a re-map and whatever the power figure will be I shall be happy with it :happy2:
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bottom line is I went with this based on the fact that I very much dislike (Hate is atoo strong a word) the Twintake and ITG (They are like dog nuggets in a public park :grin:) and the fact that this is around £200 rather than £360 helped on the decision.
Time will indeed tell if it performs (I am not chasing massive BHP numbers) and if its a bad design, either way I like the look of it being more OEM looking in my mind.
....Well, it's well proven that along with the Evoms, both the ITG Maxogen and Twintake deliver very good performance so it's difficult to see what you dislike without you being specific. I think you get what you pay for generally.
As for the Volant looking OEM, if indeed that matters because no VW tech/mech is gonna be fooled, will the OEM engine cover still fit after a Volant is installed?
Just got to get together the money for the BCS TBE Valvetech exhaust and get them fitted along with a re-map and whatever the power figure will be I shall be happy with it :happy2:
....Heard the BCS exhaust on Tfsi_Mike's Cupra yesterday and it sounded very good indeed, very sporty without being boy-racer loud. :happy2:
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....Well, it's well proven that along with the Evoms, both the ITG Maxogen and Twintake deliver very good performance so it's difficult to see what you dislike without you being specific. I think you get what you pay for generally.
High performance figures im not that fussed about, 4 or 5 bhp is not going to make much difference to me, thats one of the many reasons for trying something different, another reason is money (£200 versus £350) and the other being that EVERYONE (Most anyway) has either Twintake or ITG, I think I ahve always supported the underdog, if a company (or 2) like ITG/VWR and Forge have a large market share I would look for alternatives to be different, same with re-maps, I will be avoiding both Revo and APR for the very same reasons, that along with paying only £300-400 for a remap rather than £600, its not so much the money that bugs me but the principle of market leaders overcharging (again my opinion)
As for the Volant looking OEM, if indeed that matters because no VW tech/mech is gonna be fooled, will the OEM engine cover still fit after a Volant is installed?
I am not trying to fool anyone, I personally prefer the look of the Volant (Or the A.W.E CCB which I considered too), it looks neater to me along with reasons above I just dont like the big Carbon cans on the Twintake (Little bit too Bling for me!) and the ITG to me just looks Chavvy, only my own personal opinions, and no like most (if not all) intake systems the engine cover wont fit unless modded
Just got to get together the money for the BCS TBE Valvetech exhaust and get them fitted along with a re-map and whatever the power figure will be I shall be happy with it :happy2:
....Heard the BCS exhaust on Tfsi_Mike's Cupra yesterday and it sounded very good indeed, very sporty without being boy-racer loud. :happy2:
I was lucky enough to go meet Dave and Nige when I was last up north and went in the GTI with the valvetech fittted, was very very impressed by it and both Dave and Nige's experience and attention to detail, made my mind up in about 5 minutes!.
Nice and quiet when pootling around (which I do a lot of) and sporty when booting it (but not chavvy or loud!)
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Re your words: [Too tedious to try and extract from the way you have used quotes in your post]
I will be avoiding both Revo and APR for the very same reasons
....I am exactly the opposite - I am far more confident in an established remapper with a broad network (assuming their remap is proven as a good one without issues).
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Re your words: [Too tedious to try and extract from the way you have used quotes in your post]
I will be avoiding both Revo and APR for the very same reasons
....I am exactly the opposite - I am far more confident in an established remapper with a broad network (assuming their remap is proven as a good one without issues).
And there is one of the many things we disagree on :happy2:
I would prefer the smaller tuning companies to get a bigger share of the market (albeit between 3 or 4 smaller tuning companies) rather than just have 2 big companies battling it out (who are overpriced in my opinion), supporting smaller companies also helps breed competition, no competition means they get lazy and just count the cash, I hope that the big guys see the small guys who do pretty much the same power-wise pushing them and gaining market share, it might make them change things and push things on.
As for established, Jabbasport have been in the industry for years (longer than Revo?) and I dont need a network of dealers if the one I use is 50 miles away :happy2:, plus with bigger tuners selling their maps to tuning houses, service differs vastly between them (looking on the forums shows this regularly) so rather a tuning guy who sells re-maps which he bought form them and to install why not a tuning house who do the work themselves and know it inside and out?, R-Tech, Shark etc etc they all do the same things, my map will be from one of them (not decided yet)
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And there is one of the many things we disagree on :happy2:
I would prefer the smaller tuning companies to get a bigger share of the market (albeit between 3 or 4 smaller tuning companies) rather than just have 2 big companies battling it out (who are overpriced in my opinion), supporting smaller companies also helps breed competition, no competition means they get lazy and just count the cash, I hope that the big guys see the small guys who do pretty much the same power-wise pushing them and gaining market share, it might make them change things and push things on.
....Funnily enough we partly agree! I posted earlier today my opinion about Revo and APR buying up other companies in the BSH thread and said more or less the same as you. :happy2:
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....Funnily enough we partly agree! I posted earlier today my opinion about Revo and APR buying up other companies in the BSH thread and said more or less the same as you. :happy2:
YAY :happy2:
At least now I dont have to spread vicious rumours about you :signLOL: :signLOL:
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The problem with supporting a low volume smaller company, can be that the action back-fires (possibly litterally with an engine map). I went smaller company with a map, and it was poor in my opinion. I'm sure there are good smaller outfits, but I feel I wasted money with my particular choice.
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For something such as a remap I wouldn't even consider going to a small tuner, no matter how local or how nice a guy.
I'm afraid we've gone off topic........ :popcornsoda:
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The problem with supporting a low volume smaller company, can be that the action back-fires (possibly litterally with an engine map). I went smaller company with a map, and it was poor in my opinion. I'm sure there are good smaller outfits, but I feel I wasted money with my particular choice.
Well I have used Jabbasport in Peterborough for my last 3 cars and never had any issues, so im happy with them, small does not equal crap as in my opinion smaller companies value their customers more than large conglomerates.
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The problem with supporting a low volume smaller company, can be that the action back-fires (possibly litterally with an engine map). I went smaller company with a map, and it was poor in my opinion. I'm sure there are good smaller outfits, but I feel I wasted money with my particular choice.
Well I have used Jabbasport in Peterborough for my last 3 cars and never had any issues, so i'm happy with them, small does not equal crap as in my opinion smaller companies value their customers more than large companies where your just a profit margin :wink:
Cant comment about other companies but both Shark and R-tech seem to get good reviews also.
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The problem with supporting a low volume smaller company, can be that the action back-fires (possibly litterally with an engine map). I went smaller company with a map, and it was poor in my opinion. I'm sure there are good smaller outfits, but I feel I wasted money with my particular choice.
Well I have used Jabbasport in Peterborough for my last 3 cars and never had any issues, so im happy with them, small does not equal crap as in my opinion smaller companies value their customers more than large conglomerates.
Indeed friends have used Jabba for high output 1.8t engines to good effect. I had issues with the map from another company.
Anyhow to get the thread back on topic, when will your intake be in the UK?
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It was posted to my mate Last night should be with him in around 5-7 days and with me around 10-15 days later, so I make that around 2nd or 3rd May?
Could be quicker, could be longer, depends on customs usually (have had items arrive in customs in 2 days from USA to sit in customs for 7 days before leaving, annoying but true!)
Hopefully It will arrive the day after I have all the funds for TBE and remap so I dont have to sit on it for a while. :happy2:
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That'll teach me to read the whole thread! :happy2:
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That'll teach me to read the whole thread! :happy2:
No worries :happy2:
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Quick update for you all, my mate in USA received the Volant intake system today :happy2: (Quick turnaround from the supplier!).
He is hopefully shipping it Tomorrow morning or Monday morning :jumpmove:
***EDIT*** It was shipped to me today (14th April) so should hopefully be with me in next 5-8 days. :jumpmove:
Also took 5 mins to order the Revotec 25mm self sealing take off (For K04 Turbo) from Demon Tweeks for £23.76 posted so that should arrive before the Intake, going to speak to Nige at BCS and see if I can get booked in for TBE Valvetech system for Saturday 5th May while Im up there visiting friends and family, then get the Volant fitted by local garage and get myself booked in for stage 2 remap (still yet to decide if R-Tech, Jabba or Shark) :surprised:
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Has your volant arrived in the uk yet?
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Yep, he did get it. Waiting on feedback now once it get's fitted.
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Yep, he did get it. Waiting on feedback now once it get's fitted.
I dropped the Intake Pipe off at Jabbasport, they are going to attach the K04 take off for me, I am booked in next thursday (10th) to have it fitted along with Cam follower replacement and stage 2 re-map.
Will update how it goes.
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just out of interest why don't you fit the intake yourself and save a bit of money? they're really not hard if you've got a spare half hour or so :happy2:
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Because he has ko4 and kit only comes as ko3 version
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just out of interest why don't you fit the intake yourself and save a bit of money? they're really not hard if you've got a spare half hour or so :happy2:
Mine is K04 like Donovan said, not K03 direct fitment, so they are adding the 25mm take off, plus I dont know how to get the engine cover off let alone fit an Intake system :ashamed: , I am a firm believer in getting someone who knows how to do a job to do it, rather than me butcher it :drinking:
Bought not built :signLOL:
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just out of interest why don't you fit the intake yourself and save a bit of money? they're really not hard if you've got a spare half hour or so :happy2:
Mine is K04 like Donovan said, not K03 direct fitment, so they are adding the 25mm take off, plus I dont know how to get the engine cover off let alone fit an Intake system :ashamed: , I am a firm believer in getting someone who knows how to do a job to do it, rather than me butcher it :drinking:
Bought not built :signLOL:
....You are exactly like I am in such matters. Something must be wrong, we are not disagreeing! :grin: :happy2:
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just out of interest why don't you fit the intake yourself and save a bit of money? they're really not hard if you've got a spare half hour or so :happy2:
Mine is K04 like Donovan said, not K03 direct fitment, so they are adding the 25mm take off, plus I dont know how to get the engine cover off let alone fit an Intake system :ashamed: , I am a firm believer in getting someone who knows how to do a job to do it, rather than me butcher it :drinking:
Bought not built :signLOL:
....You are exactly like I am in such matters. Something must be wrong, we are not disagreeing! :grin: :happy2:
I know, seems its only greeners and TC that I disagree with on everything some matters :signLOL:
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lots of stuff..... concluding with:" (still yet to decide if R-Tech, Jabba or Shark) :surprised:"
In case you're not aware of the discussions elsewhere on the board, beware of DSG issues (dwell post gearchange being my issue) with some companies. I've not seen any comments relating to Jabba in this regard so I'd imagine with their experience there won't be an issue, but worth checking. :smiley:
Here's one thread I'm aware of:
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,36417.0.html
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In case you're not aware of the discussions elsewhere on the board, beware of DSG issues with some companies. I've not seen any comments relating to Jabba in this regard so I'd imagine with their experience there won't be an issue, but worth checking. :smiley:
....It's a very big board. Any clues which section of the site such discussions are, please?
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Any news on the performance of this kit?
Keeping my eyes peeled for a group buy
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Not until its fitted next thursday mate, but I am not sure if it will show anything much as its being fitted after TBE exhaust has been fited and then being custom re-mapped stage 2.
I can ask Jabba how they think its performing and we shall see what happens, although I am not personally chasing big numbers on dyno's as I want a more smooth linear map anyway.
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Just get them to log maf whilst on dynp
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You get car dyno and logged today? Waiting results
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Today is the day for fitting and posting pics!! :party: :popcornsoda:
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8) hope your not forgetting to take pictures of installation. Lol
Eager I know
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You'd have thought with the free wifi the pictures would have been posted by now :signLOL:. especially with all you folks waiting to see the finished article.
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You'd have thought with the free wifi the pictures would have been posted by now :signLOL:. especially with all you folks waiting to see the finished article.
Live streaming video. :popcornsoda:
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Skype conference video lol
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Btw, I know I don't have time to work but don't any of you guys work? :laugh: - Do your employers know how often you are on here?
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You'd have thought with the free wifi the pictures would have been posted by now :signLOL:. especially with all you folks waiting to see the finished article.
Live streaming video. :popcornsoda:
You've lost me i'm already ready doing that, . :evilgrin: :evilgrin:
oh hang on...................................
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Btw, I know I don't have time to work but don't any of you guys work? :laugh: - Do your employers know how often you are on here?
It's the internet 'cos they bl@@dy know. Still less time than some folks spend having cigarette breaks.
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Glad i wasnt eating or drinking when I saw that :grin:
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@ monte:
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Best one of those I've seen! :drinking:
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No pictures it it being fitted as I was too busy watching how easy it was, it took them around 30 minutes to remove engine cover and install intake system (They had already added the 25mm Take off for K04 engines, which I am told took them around 15 mins), I missed most of installation due to chatting to Jabbaluke about his ED30 (Beast at 400hp), was finding out what he did and best way to progress my car, anyhoo I digress.
Pic of it fitted.
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Asked them how it performed and they were impressed with it and said quite a few of their customers were waiting for them to fit mine so they could report back to them, from what he said we may start to see more of these cropping up on TFSI cars soon.
There were no issues with MAF scaling, looks like it's well designed, one thing I did notice was the Intake in the pics earlier in the thread showed a mounting point which may cause issues with engine movement but as mine did not have that (series 1 as opposed to series 2 I guess) it was not an issue, the Box part is moiunted utilizing 2 of the rubber bungs from your engine cover and this allows the box to move with the engine so no stress issues.
ON full throttle you dont notice the sound of it as the exhaust masks it :grin: but on partial throttle you do get a little bit of a sucking noise (How do you word that?) and when backing off you can hear a slight hiss, but thats at lower speeds with no radio on, radio on you dont hear it or at higher speeds either.
Enjoy should you go for it, I would recommend it, for around £200 (Add £23 for 25mm take off for those with K04) you can have something that does the same as intakes costing £350-465 :happy2:
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Ok guys, thanks to the guinea pig for having the balls to get one in and having it fitted. Thanks Tamiyoman for the feedback.
Time for that group buy to move ahead now. I been waiting for that, but if it doesn't go ahead I am getting one of these regardless.
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Ok guys, thanks to the guinea pig for having the balls to get one in and having it fitted. Thanks Tamiyoman for the feedback.
Time for that group buy to move ahead now. I been waiting for that, but if it doesn't go ahead I am getting one of these regardless.
Where can u get this intake from??
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Did you do any dyno runs before and after the intake to compare and assess the bhp gain?
The Volant ticks the boxes for sound and eye-candy for many folks but what about performance gains?
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Were there any before and after dyno runs?
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Ok guys, thanks to the guinea pig for having the balls to get one in and having it fitted. Thanks Tamiyoman for the feedback.
Time for that group buy to move ahead now. I been waiting for that, but if it doesn't go ahead I am getting one of these regardless.
It would be nice to see others get them as I wont be a Loner then :signLOL: :signLOL:
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Ok guys, thanks to the guinea pig for having the balls to get one in and having it fitted. Thanks Tamiyoman for the feedback.
Time for that group buy to move ahead now. I been waiting for that, but if it doesn't go ahead I am getting one of these regardless.
Where can u get this intake from??
I got it from a company in USA called WCP Diesal.
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Were there any before and after dyno runs?
There were no before and after runs on just intake as 5 days previously I had TBE fitted so It would not have been accurate anyway, as I (personally) was not looking for large figures I was not overly concerned with what it gives on its own as I was always adding other mods with it, so as long as it performed on the whole was all I was bothered about, that coupled with I dont like the look of the ITG (Blue Peter toilet roll and Grannies Clunge sponge stuck on the end is my best desciption of it) and the Twintake was a little too "Bling" for my car (I wanted something more OEM looking) and the VWR (ITG with 50% price increase) was even in the running as the price is scandalous at £456 :surprised:
I had a window for exhaust and it was before intake im afraid.
Jabba confirmed it flowed well and their were no issues with the car not getting enough air.
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Were there any before and after dyno runs?
There were no before and after runs on just intake as 5 days previously I had TBE fitted so It would not have been accurate anyway.
I had a window for exhaust and it was before intake im afraid.
does it 'feel' any different?
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Were there any before and after dyno runs?
There were no before and after runs on just intake as 5 days previously I had TBE fitted so It would not have been accurate anyway.
I had a window for exhaust and it was before intake im afraid.
does it 'feel' any different?
Straight after the intake was fitted it had RR run and made 243.6bhp and then was stage 2 remapped so now it has 315.6bhp and feels VERY different.
I never drove it with just intake and exhaust im afraid.
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Were there any before and after dyno runs?
There were no before and after runs on just intake as 5 days previously I had TBE fitted so It would not have been accurate anyway, as I (personally) was not looking for large figures I was not overly concerned with what it gives on its own as I was always adding other mods with it, so as long as it performed on the whole was all I was bothered about, that coupled with I dont like the look of the ITG (Blue Peter toilet roll and Grannies Clunge sponge stuck on the end is my best desciption of it) and the Twintake was a little too "Bling" for my car (I wanted something more OEM looking) and the VWR (ITG with 50% price increase) was even in the running as the price is scandalous at £456 :surprised:
I had a window for exhaust and it was before intake im afraid.
Jabba confirmed it flowed well and their were no issues with the car not getting enough air.
....You've got this same discussion going on in two threads.
Shame on Jabba for not being more interested in the bhp gains and not running before and after dyno runs (as JKM did with my Forge TWINtake in spite of already having such data from other 2.0T FSI cars). The TBE would have been a constant in the comparison. It's the GAIN which folks are interested in and not just the number after all your mods.
I never drove it with just intake and exhaust im afraid.
....No, but Jabba could have easily dyno'd it for the intake comparison. Even if you weren't interested, weren't they? :surprised:
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At the end of the day he checked the flow rates and said its flowing more than enough, as long as it was not holding back other mods it is all good, he did say that he "expected" my car to make 310bhp with TBE and Intake on their rollers and it went onto make 315.6bhp so he was surprised, that could be intake or TBE tho, who knows.
And yes it would be easier for me if I replied in only one thread (or got asked about it in one thread only :wink:)
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We can get a group buy going.
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I'm afraid that you got asked about it because it's what most folks want to know. But as I posted in the other thread, I don't blame you but I'm not impressed with Jabba's apparent lack of interest in the specific data for this new Volant product.
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....Why not start a new thread for this asking for interest and post a link to it from here. You will need to apply to Admin before it's eventually moved to the Group Buys section.
If you don't already know, you can also switch off the setting which always posts the Tapatalk stuff on every post you make. :happy2:
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We can get a group buy going.
Put your name down
1. Donovan2123
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....Why not start a new thread for this asking for interest and post a link to it from here. You will need to apply to Admin before it's eventually moved to the Group Buys section.
If you don't already know, you can also switch off the setting which always posts the Tapatalk stuff on every post you make. :happy2:
Deffo speak to Mods 1st about organising a group buy, then when they OK it you can start one in the group buys section and post links to it from here and my build thread if you want to.
I joined my first group buy earlier this week :happy2: :happy2:
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Well, definitely put my name on that list once the mods have OK'd it all.
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Quick update after 6 days motoring with the Volant fitted (320 miles covered).
Well it's pretty quiet all round, cant hear much induction roar on WOT (think the exhaust drowns it out), I have noticed it makes some slight "breathing" noises at part throttle and when in low gear and building revs and backing off you can hear the hiss (from the DV I presume), and occasionally you can hear a chattering but nothing too shouty/gurgly like the ITG's on facetube :happy2:.
Just fitted the engine cover today after some basic trimming (still needs tidying up, smoothing and painting yet) and you will need to trim off a little off the back right hand corner because of the thickness of the intake pipe, but no clearance problems other than that.
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Any pictures? :smiley:
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Pics and price to UK for KO4 please...
It's either this or a P-Flo with a custom shield...
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What really impresses me with this intake is the looks. It looks really oem and has a one piece pipe. What doesnt impress me is no noise. I dont care if the itg is big and ugly, it does its job and does it well. Impressive flow rate, huge noise and impressive gains. As said in previous posts, i would have loved to have seen some before and after figures.
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Any pictures? :smiley:
2nd post on page 9 :happy2:
No pics of engine cover fitted yet as it was rough cut, it still needs sanding and painting yet before I take pics of finished article. :happy2:
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Pics and price to UK for KO4 please...
It's either this or a P-Flo with a custom shield...
They don't do specific K04 version, you will need to add the 25mm take off yourself (they cost about £23 from Demon Tweeks and Jabba added the take off for me and fitted the Intake), cost me £181 (inc Take off) plus shipping from USA (about £40).
There is no UK importer currently.
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What doesnt impress me is no noise. I dont care if the itg is big and ugly, it does its job and does it well.
And thats exactly why I bought this, I dont want noise and I wanted OEM looking :happy2: and yes the ITG does look like Blue Peter Toilet roll and grannies clunge sponge stuck on the end :signLOL:
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And thats exactly why I bought this, I dont want noise and I wanted OEM looking :happy2: and yes the ITG does look like Blue Peter Toilet roll and grannies clunge sponge stuck on the end :signLOL:
.... :signLOL: That's a brilliant description of its visual appearance. But dare I ask how you know what a granny's clunge sponge looks like!?
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Don't really get people who say they want a good looking intake.any1 would think that you were getting married to it. :love:unless you own a show car does it really matter how something that spends all its life under the bonnet and rarely gets seen that important.intakes are there to do a job at the end of the day and that's to aid performance and sound.
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Don't really get people who say they want a good looking intake.any1 would think that you were getting married to it. :love:unless you own a show car does it really matter how something that spends all its life under the bonnet and rarely gets seen that important.intakes are there to do a job at the end of the day and that's to aid performance and sound.
....I don't get people who don't want any intake sound but I say Each To Their Own - We all have our individual preferences. My car is definitely go and not show but I often get asked to open my bonnet and I can appreciate the contents of a nice looking engine bay.
There's no reason why a piece of industrial design can't look good as well as be good functionally Porsche designs are a good example.
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Don't really get people who say they want a good looking intake.any1 would think that you were getting married to it. :love:unless you own a show car does it really matter how something that spends all its life under the bonnet and rarely gets seen that important.intakes are there to do a job at the end of the day and that's to aid performance and sound.
ETTO as far as I am concerned, but personally I dont like the look of the ITG it reminds of something you would see under the bonnet of an RS Turbo, I big pipe with a sponge on the end, I prefer the OEM look of the Volant it suits what I need/wanted and being a fan of Intakes that do the job without shouting and gurgling is all the better, some like the chavvy sounds, some don't :happy2:
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Any news on the GB?
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And thats exactly why I bought this, I dont want noise and I wanted OEM looking :happy2: and yes the ITG does look like Blue Peter Toilet roll and grannies clunge sponge stuck on the end :signLOL:
.... :signLOL: That's a brilliant description of its visual appearance. But dare I ask how you know what a granny's clunge sponge looks like!?
Funny story from my childhood robin and how the name "Clunge Sponge" came about
I used to spend every sunday with my grandmother, she used to put on a piece of brisket on the hob and we would then go for a long walk with the dog (my dog), she used to take me and the dog for 15+ mile walks and when we got back would enjoy brisket and onion butties, then it was my nan on one settee and me on the other (dog in front of the fire) ansd we would sleep for a couple of hours (a 15 mile walk when your only 10 knackers you :happy2:), phone would ring and it would be mum saying come home for tea, before I left my gran would always make me have a wash so I got home to my mum nice n clean (you know how mucky kids get), she would always send me upstairs to the bathroom for a wash and would always tell me "use the flannel on the sink, not the sponge under the sink", I never questioned why when I was younger.
Well after a couple more years (I was 13 or 14 maybe) I asked my mum why I could not use the sponge under the sink at grans house and my dad just pissed himself laughing and said to my mum "Your on your own there love" and promptly left the room laughing.
My mother had to explain as best she could that the sponge under the sink was for washing "Gran's special place" or similar words to that effect, oh right, eurrgghh was my reaction.
A few months after that 1 of my friends came with us for a walk, we got back had sarnies and a nap and then were told to wash before she set us on our way, so Up I went and had a wash (with the flannel), dried myself off, hung the flannel on the towel rail and came back down, she then sent my mate Phil up for a wash, he came down a few minutes later and I asked if he found the flannel?, and he told me that they use sponges at his house and he found one under the sink so used that :scared:, I just laughed and laughed so hard all the way home after explaining he washed his face with my grannies clunge sponge :grin: :grin:, next day at school we (Well Me :evilgrin:) told our other friends what had happened, they all fell about pissing themselves and from that point onwards he was known as "Granny Fanny", that nickname stuck for about 5 years :grin: :grin: (we only agreed to stop calling him that as it was getting awkward explaining to every girl he tried chatting up why we called him that :grin:), in fact my brother used the story in his best man's speech for Phil's wedding some 12 years later :signLOL: :signLOL:
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That is absolutely classic! Brilliantly written and has just had me and the wife crying with laughter. Thanks for brightening up my evening!
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No worries, always happy to brighten up folks evenings with stories of my friends misery :grin: Glad Phil is not a member here, he would go mental!!!, He is a copper now so best watch myself :signLOL: :signLOL: :signLOL:
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That's a great story! :congrats:
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PMSL!!!!
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:signLOL: hahahahahaha proper laughed out loud!
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:signLOL: hahahahahaha proper laughed out loud!
Even to this day it makes me giggle thinking about it :grin: :evilgrin:
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Cool story bro
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That's wronggggg
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That's wronggggg
Wrong but true and still funny to this day :grin:
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Ok I will be receiving a gen 2 volant kit in about a week or 2 once received I will be logging maf before and after kit is fitted.
Now before I ask mods about a group buy let's see exact numbers:
So please add your name below if your interested:
1. Donovan2123
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Ok I will be receiving a gen 2 volant kit in about a week or 2 once received I will be logging maf before and after kit is fitted.
Now before I ask mods about a group buy let's see exact numbers:
So please add your name below if your interested:
1. Donovan2123
2. SqueegUK
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I'm in on the GB if its authorised. :drinking:
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Only 2 people?
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Do they make the same gains as the ITG?
Id be very interested if so :happy2:
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I would be interested
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^^^^ same here, gains?
Have an ITG ATM so be interesting to see. Could well be interested but as others said depends on price I suppose. Will keep an eye on this thread (on hol's tomorrow, so will be looking for a wi if hot spot).
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Do they make the same gains as the ITG?
....Without some direct dyno comparisons that's gonna be a very tricky question for someone to reliably answer.
What gains do the Volant makers claim?
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Ok I will be receiving a gen 2 volant kit in about a week or 2 once received I will be logging maf before and after kit is fitted.
Now before I ask mods about a group buy let's see exact numbers:
So please add your name below if your interested:
1. Donovan2123
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I'm interested, but would like to see what your MAF logs show and would also like to know what the increase in noise is over stock. Have you got a map you can adjust to liberate the full benefit of a free-flowing intake, or would it be just a swap of intake?
Thanks for being the gen 2 guinea pig.
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Already at stage 2 + running stock intake so if intake is any good I will see some healthy maf readings over standard. I will also get some videos of intake so you will be able to see how loud it is.
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Already at stage 2 + running stock intake so if intake is any good I will see some healthy maf readings over standard. I will also get some videos of intake so you will be able to see how loud it is.
Good Man!!!
Did Tam ever comment on the stability of the intake pipe?
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There have been no problems with stability of intake pipe, its a solid bit of kit, mine was gen 1 and does NOT attach to engine mount on the bend, no problems so far after 700 miles or so. :happy2:
Forgot to add there is plenty of room for it to move/flex when it needs to as the front airbox is only attached using 2 of the rubber bungs from engine cover so it is able to move back and forth on these if needed, when I was at rolling road I could see the engine moving back n forth and looked at the silicon pipe end and it was not bending, the whole airbox/plastic pipe was just moving with engine :happy2:
Hope that clears it up!
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Cheers mate :drinking:
It's prob the best looking intake on the market IMO. :happy2:
If the power potential is anything like the ITG it will be a real winner :notworthy:
....do we have a confirmed total price? Did it end up at £240?
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Cheers mate :drinking:
It's prob the beat looking intake on the market IMO. :happy2:
If the power potential is anything like the ITG it will be a real winner :notworthy:
....do we have a confirmed total price? Did it end up at £240?
No worries :happy2:
I paid £221 all in including K04 take off (£23) so KO3 guys would be about £200, depends how much your clobbered for VAT on a group buy, with full VAT it might end up around £240 for the KO3 :surprised:
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Ok I will be receiving a gen 2 volant kit in about a week or 2 once received I will be logging maf before and after kit is fitted.
Now before I ask mods about a group buy let's see exact numbers:
So please add your name below if your interested:
1. Donovan2123
2. SqueegUK
3. AndyS
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I,m in depending on price
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so... whats the score?
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do people still want these? the original guy seems to have gone quiet so i dont mind picking it up and trying to get prices etc if a few are still interested?
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Sorry been having issues with my car. Because of the lack of interest I think it will be best for people to order direct from volant. Just make sure it's a gen2 filter they send and not older gen1. With out a good number of people discount would be minimal with group buy.
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Sorry been having issues with my car. Because of the lack of interest I think it will be best for people to order direct from volant. Just make sure it's a gen2 filter they send and not older gen1. With out a good number of people discount would be minimal with group buy.
well i had an email back from them today.
group buy price of $234 plus shipping (they estimate $75-$100 for the UK) plus tax I guess? So thats £215 + tax approx.
He said numbers dont matter
I'm happy to organise this as I might still get one to compare with my new ITG
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I'd be interested in this.
Does anybody know what kind of noise level they give off if any?
Be good if we can get if for under £200!
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I'd be interested in this.
Does anybody know what kind of noise level they give off if any?
Be good if we can get if for under £200!
I'm going to buy one I think and test it and report back and then can run the group buy
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Sounds good! Look forward to seeing your progress.
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I'd be interested in this.
Does anybody know what kind of noise level they give off if any?
Be good if we can get if for under £200!
I'm going to buy one I think and test it and report back and then can run the group buy
Do it Jedi, I am happy with mine, I am sure you will be with yours, the Gen1 does not have fixing point (might be better), your choice......you pays your money..............
Good luck with it (It's a BIG box BTW)
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I'm going to buy one I think and test it and report back and then can run the group buy
Was the postage cost per item, or are there some efficiencies to be had by combining an order? I could be tempted to combine an order if there are worthwhile savings. PM me if you'd prefer.
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I'd be interested in this.
Does anybody know what kind of noise level they give off if any?
Be good if we can get if for under £200!
I'm going to buy one I think and test it and report back and then can run the group buy
Do it Jedi, I am happy with mine, I am sure you will be with yours, the Gen1 does not have fixing point (might be better), your choice......you pays your money..............
Good luck with it (It's a BIG box BTW)
What web sites are you guys looking at to buy from as I might purchase one
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I'd be interested in this.
Does anybody know what kind of noise level they give off if any?
Be good if we can get if for under £200!
I'm going to buy one I think and test it and report back and then can run the group buy
Do it Jedi, I am happy with mine, I am sure you will be with yours, the Gen1 does not have fixing point (might be better), your choice......you pays your money..............
Good luck with it (It's a BIG box BTW)
What web sites are you guys looking at to buy from as I might purchase one
ive been in contact with volant direct about purchasing a batch of the gen2 intakes.
my plan is... im buying 1 to test and if its no good i'll just sell it on and end of story.
If its good and matches the itg / forge on logging then i'll run a group buy with volant.
I'm going to ask them about people paying separately and posting direct and also about paying in batch and sending a pallet to me and then I'll distribute in the UK.
Feel free to start making a list of names.. or I might start a new group buy thread once i've got one to test.
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Sounds like a plan Mr Jedi :happy2:
If the results are good from the logging session, I would be well up for one of these.
Hopefully we'll lose the squealing noise :confused:
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Will be watching with interest to see how you get on with the testing, still can't used to the sound of my ITG so its this of the Twintake.
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Any video sound clips ? Is it much louder than standard airbox ?
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Will be watching with interest to see how you get on with the testing, still can't used to the sound of my ITG so its this of the Twintake.
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you might be better with the new enclosed itg. its not really any louder than the stock engine cover air box.
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Any video sound clips ? Is it much louder than standard airbox ?
im just arranging to buy one and i'll report back.
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Will be watching with interest to see how you get on with the testing, still can't used to the sound of my ITG so its this of the Twintake.
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you might be better with the new enclosed itg. its not really any louder than the stock engine cover air box.
Thought about that but I believe it's another £200 ish (correct me if I'm wrong) to convert mine to the canister one. Could just as well get the Volant one (and extra bit for my ED30's 04) for that money plus a bit. May well sell my ITG anyhoo so one system will pay for the other.
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Sounds like a plan Mr Jedi :happy2:
If the results are good from the logging session, I would be well up for one of these.
Hopefully we'll lose the squealing noise :confused:
No squeeling from the Volant intake :happy2:, almost 2k covered since fitting mine, it has made the chatter noise a few times (It sounds like a turkey with an air line up its backside) thats the best description i can give, only done it 3 or 4 times other than that just some induction roar (only hear it with stereo off and at low revs as at higher revs the exhaust covers it).
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Did we get any where with the group buy :happy2:
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Not sure If jedi has bought one yet, but I shall be at the JKM RR day on 27th so those who want to see it can do, perhaps JKM could log it while its on the RR?, maybe its possible?.
Personally speaking for £200 I dont think you can do much better, but ETTO
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^^^^ Was that all it cost? Shame I can't get down to the RR day, would have liked a noisy at your system, next time.
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^^^^ Was that all it cost? Shame I can't get down to the RR day, would have liked a noisy at your system, next time.
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Yes for the Intake inc shipping was £198 add another £23 for K04 take off adaptor and thats the total cost to me (£221) :happy2:
If you are chasing massive BHP figures you might be better off going the obvious "Proven" routes (ITG/FORGE) but if you prefer OEM look and are not bothered about it having "Proven big bhp numbers" and fancy having £240 extra in your back pocket instead its certainly an option :happy2:
Will be interesting to see what (If anything) people think/say about it at JKM :happy2: :happy2:
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^^^^ Was that all it cost? Shame I can't get down to the RR day, would have liked a noisy at your system, next time.
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Yes for the Intake inc shipping was £198 add another £23 for K04 take off adaptor and thats the total cost to me (£221) :happy2:
If you are chasing massive BHP figures you might be better off going the obvious "Proven" routes (ITG/FORGE) but if you prefer OEM look and are not bothered about it having "Proven big bhp numbers" and fancy having £240 extra in your back pocket instead its certainly an option :happy2:
Will be interesting to see what (If anything) people think/say about it at JKM :happy2: :happy2:
I would like to have a good look at this at JKM :party:
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^^^^ Was that all it cost? Shame I can't get down to the RR day, would have liked a noisy at your system, next time.
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Yes for the Intake inc shipping was £198 add another £23 for K04 take off adaptor and thats the total cost to me (£221) :happy2:
If you are chasing massive BHP figures you might be better off going the obvious "Proven" routes (ITG/FORGE) but if you prefer OEM look and are not bothered about it having "Proven big bhp numbers" and fancy having £240 extra in your back pocket instead its certainly an option :happy2:
Will be interesting to see what (If anything) people think/say about it at JKM :happy2: :happy2:
Excellent stuff, cheers matey! :happy2:
Not bothered about big numbers, not bothered about numbers at all. System sounds (without hearing it) just what I'm after. Had an ITG, bit much for me, living with Darth Vadar on a daily basis, looking for something a little more OEM+
Will be interested to see what JKM make of your CAI. Lets us know what they and others say.
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^^^^ Was that all it cost? Shame I can't get down to the RR day, would have liked a noisy at your system, next time.
:happy2:
Yes for the Intake inc shipping was £198 add another £23 for K04 take off adaptor and thats the total cost to me (£221) :happy2:
If you are chasing massive BHP figures you might be better off going the obvious "Proven" routes (ITG/FORGE) but if you prefer OEM look and are not bothered about it having "Proven big bhp numbers" and fancy having £240 extra in your back pocket instead its certainly an option :happy2:
Will be interesting to see what (If anything) people think/say about it at JKM :happy2: :happy2:
I would like to have a good look at this at JKM :party:
No worries, just look out for a White 5 Dr Candy ED30 (08 plate), come over say hello and have a look! :happy2:
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^^^^ Was that all it cost? Shame I can't get down to the RR day, would have liked a noisy at your system, next time.
:happy2:
Yes for the Intake inc shipping was £198 add another £23 for K04 take off adaptor and thats the total cost to me (£221) :happy2:
If you are chasing massive BHP figures you might be better off going the obvious "Proven" routes (ITG/FORGE) but if you prefer OEM look and are not bothered about it having "Proven big bhp numbers" and fancy having £240 extra in your back pocket instead its certainly an option :happy2:
Will be interesting to see what (If anything) people think/say about it at JKM :happy2: :happy2:
It's one of the many reasons I went for it :happy2:, Forge a Bit too Bling for me (and pricey) and ITG just looked cheap to me (Altho V. pricey), prefer OEM looking myself.
Excellent stuff, cheers matey! :happy2:
Not bothered about big numbers, not bothered about numbers at all. System sounds (without hearing it) just what I'm after. Had an ITG, bit much for me, living with Darth Vadar on a daily basis, looking for something a little more OEM+
Will be interested to see what JKM make of your CAI. Lets us know what they and others say.
:happy2:
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I shall be at the JKM RR day on 27th so those who want to see it can do, perhaps JKM could log it while its on the RR?, maybe its possible?.
....I'm looking forward to seeing and hearing it :happy2:
Ask Jim about logging when you arrive but you may find he says he would prefer to log it while on the road, in which case you wouldn't get your opportunity on the Dyno-Day. But I may be wrong so ask him.
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I shall be at the JKM RR day on 27th so those who want to see it can do, perhaps JKM could log it while its on the RR?, maybe its possible?.
....I'm looking forward to seeing and hearing it :happy2:
Ask Jim about logging when you arrive but you may find he says he would prefer to log it while on the road, in which case you wouldn't get your opportunity on the Dyno-Day. But I may be wrong so ask him.
It's worth an ask, if he wants to log it on the road It prob won't happen as I am there to meet folks, look at some cars and get the RR sesh, will have to see.........
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....I'm looking forward to seeing and hearing it :happy2:
Ask Jim about logging when you arrive but you may find he says he would prefer to log it while on the road, in which case you wouldn't get your opportunity on the Dyno-Day. But I may be wrong so ask him.
It's worth an ask, if he wants to log it on the road It prob won't happen as I am there to meet folks, look at some cars and get the RR sesh, will have to see.........
....Only Jim or Kate can give you the definitive answer but normally he would not have time on a Dyno-Day to take your car out on the road and log it (assuming he thinks that's the best way) even if you have the time. It also raises the problem that if he spends time on a Dyno-Day doing extra things for one person, he is going to feel obliged to do the same for others and there simply isn't enough time. But, as I say, ask Jim when you arrive - I'm only suggesting what I think the scenario will be. Or email JKM to ask beforehand if you wish.
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....I'm looking forward to seeing and hearing it :happy2:
Ask Jim about logging when you arrive but you may find he says he would prefer to log it while on the road, in which case you wouldn't get your opportunity on the Dyno-Day. But I may be wrong so ask him.
It's worth an ask, if he wants to log it on the road It prob won't happen as I am there to meet folks, look at some cars and get the RR sesh, will have to see.........
....Only Jim or Kate can give you the definitive answer but normally he would not have time on a Dyno-Day to take your car out on the road and log it (assuming he thinks that's the best way) even if you have the time. It also raises the problem that if he spends time on a Dyno-Day doing extra things for one person, he is going to feel obliged to do the same for others and there simply isn't enough time. But, as I say, ask Jim when you arrive - I'm only suggesting what I think the scenario will be. Or email JKM to ask beforehand if you wish.
Will ask him on the day, it is others that want to know, not so much for me :signLOL: :signLOL:
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I shall be at the JKM RR day on 27th so those who want to see it can do, perhaps JKM could log it while its on the RR?, maybe its possible?.
....I'm looking forward to seeing and hearing it :happy2:
Ask Jim about logging when you arrive but you may find he says he would prefer to log it while on the road, in which case you wouldn't get your opportunity on the Dyno-Day. But I may be wrong so ask him.
i'm sure one of the attendees could bring VCDS and could do it independantly from JKM. We could even compare air flow against one of the other systems :smiley:
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By all means, I have no issue with that :happy2:
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I really like that. Looks very OEM, no doubt its nice and quiet, it incorporates two cold air feeds: slam panel and headlight, also like the tapered pipe design.
What's the filter size? I'm guessing from the diameter of the pipe entering the box, its a monster
....Are we sure it also takes air in from the headlight area? Excellent if it does :happy2:
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I really like that. Looks very OEM, no doubt its nice and quiet, it incorporates two cold air feeds: slam panel and headlight, also like the tapered pipe design.
What's the filter size? I'm guessing from the diameter of the pipe entering the box, its a monster
....Are we sure it also takes air in from the headlight area? Excellent if it does :happy2:
if you look at photos of the intake off the car the headlight side is all open too, yeah
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^^^^
Thanks guys :drinking: - I hadn't read the whole thread and I guess that pic was somewhere on a later page.
Then it's a variation on the Twintake, or vica-versa. The Volant is a lot tidier but doesn't have the carbon eye-candy.
Forge claim that the total surface area of a filter (or 2 filters in the Twintake case) has an influence on performance. It would be great to back-to-back dyno test Volant vs Twintake but such things are really difficult and expensive to arrange unfortunately.
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Id like someone to give me the dimensions of the twintake filters if possible.
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Takes air in from both grille (as per OE) and headlight area :happy2:
Mine is coming off next week to go to it's new owner as car goes back to standard to get ready for sale
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Id like someone to give me the dimensions of the twintake filters if possible.
The twintakes are 2 pretty small filters at a guess? (looking at can diameter), the volant uses 1 LARGE filter, oil less design with 100,000 mile guarantee manufactured by a company called Donaldson in USA.
Would be good to see the flow rates for both on a stage 2 car (Or even a stage 2+) :happy2:
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Yes, each of the Twintake's 2 filters is much smaller individually.
To properly calculate the surface area of a cone:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.analyzemath.com%2FGeometry_calculators%2Fcone_1.gif&hash=7c9a30103fb8f09e8521c450e65b6f5096f59f71)
But minus the upper section because the surface when flat is fan-shaped:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lifeinitaly.com%2Ffiles%2Fvenice-silver-fan.jpg&hash=93eab41b129e661ca00d8caaba44c3fd2e1d7a72)
^ The surface area of an air intake cone will be the shape of the silver area of the fan in this pic.
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What's the last word on these Volant intakes for K03 TFSI? I must admit, I do love the OEM look that this intake fills below the battery void.
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15 pages worth reading then? Come on guys, give me a synopsis :happy2:
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Long story short...
Does it fit... Yes
Does it work... Yes
Can I buy them... Yes
Do I have to import it from USA.. Yes
Should I just buy a.nother intake available off the shelf in the UK... Yes
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Yeap, everything ^^^^ says!
If you have friends/relatives in the US of A then it might be worth it as you can save on shipping it over here but its still a faff and hassle.
Lots of good options available this side of the pond, some cheaper than the Volant too.
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Long story short...
Does it fit... Yes
Does it work... Yes
Can I buy them... Yes
Do I have to import it from USA.. Yes
Should I just buy a.nother intake available off the shelf in the UK... Yes
LOve it. Thanks!
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Yeap, everything ^^^^ says!
If you have friends/relatives in the US of A then it might be worth it as you can save on shipping it over here but its still a faff and hassle.
Lots of good options available this side of the pond, some cheaper than the Volant too.
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Cheers dude, doing the pond this year, will try and smuggle this, he he. :happy2:
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^^^^ good idea.
Don't take any clothes in your suitcase and bring this puppy back instead! Ohh your misses is going to love you!! :signLOL:
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Digging this sucker up :rolleye:, times have moved on and the previously mentioned forge twintake doesnt seem to be one of the top intakes due its charcoal filters, anyone try this and give it the thumbs up, currently using a dbilas after trying the CTS intake, prefer enclosed intakes and this looks ok.
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Now that's a product I haven't read or seen on this forum for a few years....dbilas intake
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Jesus... is this thread really 3 years old. :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:
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Found it when looking for another intake, after reading all the pages i wondered how this faired up
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Just because this is old and to post a couple of things I'm not sure are included in the previous pages;
They did upgrade the intake for the mk6 Golf R with the DV relocation...
(https://i.postimg.cc/dVrqDMLx/a1.png) (https://postimages.org/)
.....and the Volant did result in low fuel trims, on average, when they had MK6 Golf R people report their fuel trims with various intakes; on another forum. These averages was posted once ten people reported for each of these intakes. So some didn't make their list if less than ten users reported their trims;
(https://i.postimg.cc/L8CrHNVb/fuel-trim-intakes.png) (https://postimages.org/)
I may have posted this all before, on those previous pages, but I'm old now (62 next month), and I just don't remember.
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62, wow, good on you :drinking:
Good info :happy2: Its great to see people take a scientific and detailed approach to these things rather than slapping any old intake on and calling it done.
Even 5% drift caused drivability issues on my Edition 30. Doesn't sound a lot but it's still a large error the ECU has to work around when calculating fuel trims. I saw 8% error with my Racing Line intake over a week, which grew to 12% after a month of daily use. Revo intake got up to 18% iirc. LT and ST trims max out at 25% and then ECU runs out of options.
The 10-25% error intakes shouldn't even be on the market. They are utter garbage and destroy low end response.
Stock intake = 0-1% error margin.
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I have the P-Flo and, with its K04, its trims typically sit at +7% (warm months)...but trims (multipl./long term - off idle) can creep up toward +10% during the colder months.
Neuspeed's older P-Flo was worse; with its MAF position much closer to the down-turn just prior to the turbo.
My warm month (US)mpg is 30 mpg (30.2: over 650 mile average) currently; 36 mpg (Imp.). I have difficulty keeping its mpg above 29 mpg (US), 34 Imp. mpg, in the cold months.
I've considered swapping to a CTS intake, but I really could be gaining very little for doing so. And this makes me think to just stay with what I have.
I know there was a good bit of hype being spread, regarding the REVO intake for some time. But in the 80+ page "Topic/Thread" where the trims were being shared, the REVO trim reports were all near the +15% mark; ±2% to 3%. I always thought if the transition in the REVO tube were further upstream, then maybe the laminar air flow would have settled better. But that's me being suspicious of the transition in their tube; just prior to the MAF and possibly disturbing the airflow at the MAF.
I know GIAC worked with EVOMS in correcting their early production period woes, regarding fuel trims, and it seemingly paid off. Sadly though, EVOMS has discontinued production of their MK5 intakes when sales for it dropped. EVOMS; another I considered.
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Yeah I remember reading some time ago the Neuspeed intake was one of the better ones for fuel trims, but none of them are anywhere near close to the OEM error margin unfortunately.
It's not helped by the terrible MAF location VW chose to use. It's too close to the turbo, so heat, PCV oil (K04 even more so) and turbo flow reversion work their way back up the TIP and onto the MAF. It works OK in the stock intake with the laminar flow grid and standard power, but start turning things up and the MAF doesn't like it.
That's why on the EA888 engine, the MAF was moved much further away from the turbo. You can get away with a lot more on those engines in terms of aftermarket intakes.
The Revo intake was terrible. I could only stomach it for 2 weeks and then sold it. Good to hear GIAC/Evoms paid attention to the MAF as most others don't. It's not like it's the engine's primary load measurement or anything :grin:
Another good intake from my researching is this one, but look at the price of it :grin: It still won't be +/- 1% error like stock though. Nothing is.
https://hg-motorsport.de/en/hfi-carbon-air-intake-kit-gen.2-plus-vag-2.0-t-f-si-ea113-e.g.-golf-mk5/6-s3-8p
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I've tried the HG motorsport intake for the 1.4 TSI CAXA and boi do I regret it.
I was dumb enough to pay a little over a hundred euros for a shiny pipe and a filter that wouldn't even fit in my engine bay. Had to wait around 3 months and send constant emails while they kept making excuses why they cant ship. Funny that right as I asked to be refunded, they were able to ship it the next day..
I had to really stretch the fit when trying to bolt the pipe onto the screw hole next to the battery. And guess what? after like the 2nd rev, the metal extension that was welded onto said pipe, broke clean off. The rubber adapter-hose that was supposed to connect the pipe to the plastic intake inlet on the turbo was also the wrong size. It was a very loose fit. I had to wrap said inlet with tape so i could tighten the pipe enough for it not to fall off. Oh and did I mention I had to cut a solid 10cm off the pipe, just so I can fit the filter into my engine bay? crazy...
(https://i.postimg.cc/BvRyrb4W/hg-pipe.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5HqnvxXp)
Here's the intake in question https://hg-motorsport.de/en/air-intake-pipe-vag-1.4-t-f-si-122/125hp-e.g.-golf-mk5/6-audi-a3-8p (https://hg-motorsport.de/en/air-intake-pipe-vag-1.4-t-f-si-122/125hp-e.g.-golf-mk5/6-audi-a3-8p)
Safe to say I wont be ordering any of their overpriced stuff any time soon.
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Yeah I remember reading some time ago the Neuspeed intake was one of the better ones for fuel trims, but none of them are anywhere near close to the OEM error margin unfortunately.
It's not helped by the terrible MAF location VW chose...
Speaking of "terrible MAF location" ...even Neuspeed made a change; moving the MAF further upstream of the down-bend.
Took me some time but I did eventually find a pic of the older MAF position on a Neuspeed P-flo, before the revision;
(https://i.postimg.cc/brT5d6BG/maf-location-p-flo.png) (https://postimages.org/)