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Title: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: MC71 on February 28, 2012, 07:06:04 pm
Only recently got my Edition 30 and have been giving it... well, the beans  :evilgrin: and no surprise, low MPG!

Went out today (with the wife on board) and this is what happened on our round trip to shops  :jumping:

Am i reading this correctly, that my 70 mile round trip averaged 39.2 mpg? oh and if i am not reading this correctly, be gentle and i promise i will go and stand in the corner of the room!

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Cheers, Martin  :happy2:
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: Saintsteve on February 28, 2012, 07:07:40 pm
Disgusting :notworthy:
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: Tamiyoman on February 28, 2012, 07:07:49 pm
Clearly your wife is a nervous passenger  :P

ON a side note, I saw 37.2 on a 90 mile drive (all motorway)

P.S. clean your car, that screen is dusty!  :happy2:
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: MAT ED30 on February 28, 2012, 07:08:34 pm
i got 43mpg out of mine today  :confused:
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: Bane on February 28, 2012, 07:13:38 pm
If you drive it really canny and use the minimal electrics(i.e. no heaters,radio,turn down dash lights) you can get very good fuel consumption.
I went out the other night on a visit to the outlaws,which is a 34mile round trip and halfway out there,the low fuel warning came on.
Typically,there's no petrol stations on the route there,so when it came to go home,the display told me I had about 20miles worth of juice left and 17 miles to go!
I made it home,but  I was impressed with the average mpg....44.9!! :jumping:
I wish I had taken a pic of it.... :happy2:
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: PDT on February 28, 2012, 07:17:07 pm
This is what made / makes the TFSi a class leading engine. Try that in a simarly powered alternative (focus st, astra vxr, remault megane 225 etc...)
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: MC71 on February 28, 2012, 07:17:43 pm
Clearly your wife is a nervous passenger  :P

ON a side note, I saw 37.2 on a 90 mile drive (all motorway)

P.S. clean your car, that screen is dusty!  :happy2:

Heading out now with feather duster in hand :signLOL: oh and its ME who is the nervous one when she gets in the car and even before take off (for some reason) she is clutching the sides of the seat :evilgrin:
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: MC71 on February 28, 2012, 07:20:26 pm
If you drive it really canny and use the minimal electrics(i.e. no heaters,radio,turn down dash lights) you can get very good fuel consumption.
I went out the other night on a visit to the outlaws,which is a 34mile round trip and halfway out there,the low fuel warning came on.
Typically,there's no petrol stations on the route there,so when it came to go home,the display told me I had about 20miles worth of juice left and 17 miles to go!
I made it home,but  I was impressed with the average mpg....44.9!! :jumping:
I wish I had taken a pic of it.... :happy2:

Thats just not right :notworthy:, are you sure you are not driving a soot chucker? :happy2:
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: MC71 on February 28, 2012, 07:25:13 pm
What speed did you achieve that MPG in? am sure it was steady but MPH was it?

On average, about 60mph, but 10 miles of the trip is town driving, stop/start. :happy2:
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: stealthwolf on February 28, 2012, 07:27:17 pm
I've achieved 41-42mpg but basically stuck at 60mph for the entire journey that took 3 hrs.
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: stealthwolf on February 28, 2012, 07:38:11 pm
Stage 1 but achieved similar mpg levels at stock.
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: swgti on February 28, 2012, 08:31:50 pm
i got 43mpg out of mine today  :confused:
DOWN WITH THIS SORT OF THING!
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: Frenzy on February 28, 2012, 09:17:39 pm
clearly none of you live in london  :grin:
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: zubi on February 28, 2012, 09:19:49 pm
how do you get these! lol

i had a trip from Manchester to slough and got 36.2mpg doing 70mph ish..lol i think i need cruse control! lol

around town on short trips i get around 23.4mpg.

do you think the DSG makes a difference?
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: Greeners on February 28, 2012, 09:21:34 pm
how do you get these! lol

i had a trip from Manchester to slough and got 36.2mpg doing 70mph ish..lol i think i need cruse control! lol

around town on short trips i get around 23.4mpg.

do you think the DSG makes a difference?

Proven to be worse on fuel consumption than driving economically yourself.
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: gillm on February 28, 2012, 09:23:56 pm
i get 41 out of my gt28 powered car
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: Greeners on February 28, 2012, 09:42:27 pm
how do you get these! lol

i had a trip from Manchester to slough and got 36.2mpg doing 70mph ish..lol i think i need cruse control! lol

around town on short trips i get around 23.4mpg.

do you think the DSG makes a difference?

Proven to be worse on fuel consumption than driving economically yourself.

Are you serious? Are there any posts about this or discussions anywhere? This is very suprising i would have never guessed, How bad does the cruise control affect the MPG?

Yes very serious. I used to subscribe to VW Driver mag and their road testers all used to say the same for economy runs. Think about it, the more you are off the pedal the more economical the car will be. CC is on the gas most of the time trying to maintain the speed you have set. You have to option to go totally off the pedal when the cc will still be on it.
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: Tamiyoman on February 29, 2012, 12:13:28 am
clearly none of you live in london  :grin:

For good reason  :P
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: Lyons on February 29, 2012, 08:09:26 am
This is what made / makes the TFSi a class leading engine. Try that in a simarly powered alternative (focus st, astra vxr, remault megane 225 etc...)

Totally, I use to get 40-45 on mine (non ED30) on a daily occurence on the motorway.

My current diesel Octavia wouldnt do much better!
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: itismebigd on February 29, 2012, 09:53:26 am
+1 Lyons,i normally see 40-42mpg on a 17 mile one way trip to my work in the morning,im also non ed 30,but to be fair im never out of 6th gear and a constant speed of 60mph for 90% of the journey(mostly bypass)and at 04.00 in the morning not many other stupid folk about lol oh for the record im stage 2+ k03 but had it reading single figures too  :wink:
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: Frodo-anni on February 29, 2012, 09:57:31 am
I need to look at changing my plugs then, as im lucky to get 20-22mpg for the 7 miles to work in a morning, on a run may see 29-30 at a push.
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: mbastow on February 29, 2012, 10:08:12 am
I've never got over 32mpg in my Edition 30.  Motorway driving at 80mph, 30mpg.  10 mile commute to work in non rush hour traffic with not many stops, 30mpg.  Would changing the plugs make a difference?  I have NEVER seen anything more than 32mpg - even when driving very steadily.  Not sure if it makes any difference but car has 39k on the clock.
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: stealthwolf on February 29, 2012, 11:02:30 am
Are tyre pressures correct? No load in the boot? Stay at steady 60mph and you should see higher figures. Heavy right foot is the leading cause of low mpg.
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: Tamiyoman on February 29, 2012, 11:26:05 am
Well my mother just dropped my ED30 off after having borrowed it this morning as her Golf is in for service (VW's are a family thing!, me n mum have Golf;s, lil bro has a Polo) I re-set the trip before she left for her 38 mile round trip (mainly 60 limit A roads with 5 roundabouts each way) and she averaged 39.3mpg, she clearly drives slower than me  :evilgrin:, same trip for me usually averages 27mpg  :grin:
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: parks on February 29, 2012, 11:29:09 am
i wonder if there is an optimum speed, accounting for the power graph/delivery vs air+rolling resistance....


mmm
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: Janner_Sy on February 29, 2012, 11:52:36 am
This APR Golf R is horrendous on fuel even driven carefully.

When I dropped Mike and his wife off to BCS I used cruise control the whole time at the speed limit and managed just over 22mpg.

I even followed Mike back to Nottingham at the same speeds and his mpg was much higher than mine despite the same software.

The highest I've managed is 24mpg
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: jhtrophy on February 29, 2012, 12:12:28 pm
how do you get these! lol

i had a trip from Manchester to slough and got 36.2mpg doing 70mph ish..lol i think i need cruse control! lol

around town on short trips i get around 23.4mpg.

do you think the DSG makes a difference?

Proven to be worse on fuel consumption than driving economically yourself.

Are you serious? Are there any posts about this or discussions anywhere? This is very suprising i would have never guessed, How bad does the cruise control affect the MPG?

Yes very serious. I used to subscribe to VW Driver mag and their road testers all used to say the same for economy runs. Think about it, the more you are off the pedal the more economical the car will be. CC is on the gas most of the time trying to maintain the speed you have set. You have to option to go totally off the pedal when the cc will still be on it.
your right, all cars i have had the cc has been worse than me except my current car which is a good 5 mpg better than i can get, but it struggles to stay at set speed, slows a couple of mph up hill and speeds up a bit down hill!!!! french cars dont do that :signLOL:
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: Lyons on February 29, 2012, 03:05:28 pm
To be fair, you don't buy a 230hp petrol turbo if tractor consumption is high on your want list.
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: rich83 on February 29, 2012, 03:10:47 pm
I dont think ive got more than 30mpg for a few months. January i averaged about 22-23MPG doing a short run most days from my house to our old flat.  :scared:
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: MAT ED30 on February 29, 2012, 03:15:28 pm
i can get 40+ easy out of mine on the mtr way all day long i just don't  :driver: well i did yesterday  :rolleye:
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: parks on February 29, 2012, 03:18:10 pm
i wonder if there is an optimum speed, accounting for the power graph/delivery vs air+rolling resistance....


mmm

Yes I'd like to know this too, even at 60mph I feel the car struggles to gently cruise as the rev is at3k rpm and that's turbo spinning level

maybe the 'best' speed is the slowest speed in 6th when the turbo is spinning
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: GrayMK5GTI on February 29, 2012, 07:26:34 pm
Mine managed 46mpg on a warm day driving from Cheshire to Newcastle at a steady 70mph. Sure that was on 95RON also  :P
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: Poppa Dom on February 29, 2012, 07:36:50 pm
Best I have managed - was over an 82 mile journey - 16.5 degrees. Revo Stage 2+:

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Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: MC71 on February 29, 2012, 07:45:50 pm
 :notworthy: :notworthy: show off :notworthy: :notworthy:
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: ROH ECHT on February 29, 2012, 08:27:35 pm
I don't have the Ed 30 due to US BS ;( , but most of my mods have been an attempt to create my own.

I averaged 32.5 on a 750 mile trip. Not too good, right?

PS - I always get better mpg with my wife in the car too.. :happy2:
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: stealthwolf on February 29, 2012, 08:39:22 pm
In the past, the figure of 56mph was bandied about as the optimum speed, but this is no longer applicable with modern cars. The turbo kicks in around 2000rpm, so you could argue that 6th gear at 2000rpm is best. Ironically, this works out to 56mph.
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: PDT on February 29, 2012, 08:54:23 pm
Most modern direct injection engines will get good mpg figures, my 135i (3.0 straight six twin turbo petrol) managed 42mpg recently (stage 1 tuned to 371hp and 385 ftlb) on a run from Sunderland to Newcastle. Not really trying to save fuel so 70mph all the way 20 mile trip.

However if you have some fun 10-12mpg is easily achievable  :sad1:
Title: Re: MPG EDition 30 (can it be true?)
Post by: alackofspeed on February 29, 2012, 11:50:28 pm


maybe the 'best' speed is the slowest speed in 6th when the turbo is spinning
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From what I've logged, when driving along on an economy run at or around NSL, on light throttle the manifold is generally seeing a vacuum. You only see boost if you accelerate or go up an incline. The turbo is always spinning, even on idle, just very slowly.