MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: mbastow on February 29, 2012, 10:11:28 am
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Been doing some internet surfing and have found that Brembo do some OEM discs for very reasonable money (£76 for fronts, £64 for rears). Ive seen other brake threads on this forum but haven't yet seen anyone say anything about the Brembo's. Has anyone ever fitted these and does anyone have an opinion on them? Was also wondering whether to try EBC Redstuff pads. Reasonable money and seem to be an upgrade to the OEM pads. Anyone have any thoughts/experience?? Help appreciated...... :happy2:
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TBH mate Its not really the standard disc's that are the problem. Its the standard calipers that are poopoo.
The NQSBBK or S3/R32 brakes are the best solution to the Gti/Ed30's shocking brakes. :happy2:
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TBH mate Its not really the standard disc's that are the problem. Its the standard calipers that are poopoo.
The NQSBBK or S3/R32 brakes are the best solution to the Gti/Ed30's shocking brakes. :happy2:
+1 but i'm saving for the NQSBBK Porsche set-up, i think it looks ace :happy2:
standard set is a pile of sh*te, how the hell thats on the GTI is anyones guess.
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Been doing some internet surfing and have found that Brembo do some OEM discs for very reasonable money (£76 for fronts, £64 for rears). Ive seen other brake threads on this forum but haven't yet seen anyone say anything about the Brembo's. Has anyone ever fitted these and does anyone have an opinion on them? Was also wondering whether to try EBC Redstuff pads. Reasonable money and seem to be an upgrade to the OEM pads. Anyone have any thoughts/experience?? Help appreciated...... :happy2:
Personally I found the red stuff ceramic compound to be over-rated, pedal feel was incredibly wooden with no modulation in terms of feel. There are far better compounds out there, but it depends on how precious you are about your wheels/calipers.
If the latter is not an issue, I'd go with Carbotech pads everytime.
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I never thought the OE set up was that bad, even at stage 1 it did the job, then I fitted S3 fronts and realised I was wrong....! :driver:
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having switched to TArox 10 pot brakes I don't think the standard brakes are that bad. The biggest advantage of big brake kit is on the track as they don't fade compared to standard under very heavy constant braking, on daily basis there is no difference at all, you can lock the wheels with standard brakes...
I was expecting a shock but it's very similar to standard
Paul
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I have to say, the difference between OE and S3 is literally night and day, that could be due to the 6 ft diameter piston in the S3 caliper though??? :laugh:
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EBC pads :sick:
On my polo G40 the brakes were crap, put EBC pads in and they felt even worse, had to stamp on the pedal to get a feel! Once the wear in period was over they were still crap, took them out to replace them an the pad face had come awy from the backing plate!!! :scared: done my research and found this was pretty common with EBC brakes,
Thought I'd give them another chance on my dads scooby....guess what happened! Yep the baking plate came away from the pad material again! :fighting: started to crumble up!
I will never ever use EBC brakes again,
My brakes (fronts) will need replacing soon but i will just use OEM pads for now untill i can find some R32 ones for £300 :laugh:
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Standard brake aint that bad at all. I have just fitted OEM pads and disks from skoda and the difference between them and that from eurocarparts is massive.
The eurocarparts pagid caused massive brake fade with a spirited drive.
Since fitting genuine bits and doing same drive not one bit of brake fade yet.
But of course s3, 6 pots, 8pots would be awesome espcially if your planning track days
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Standard brake aint that bad at all. I have just fitted OEM pads and disks from skoda and the difference between them and that from eurocarparts is massive.
The eurocarparts pagid caused massive brake fade with a spirited drive.
Shure you've bedded them in properly. :smiley:
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Yep. Lol
just saying my experience between pagids from ecp and oem.
But seriously I think oem are fine unless tracking
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Standard brake aint that bad at all. I have just fitted OEM pads and disks from skoda and the difference between them and that from eurocarparts is massive.
The eurocarparts pagid caused massive brake fade with a spirited drive.
Shure you've bedded them in properly. :smiley:
I am not sure now, I think i did although very disappointed as they feel exactly the same as stock.... How are yours compared to stock? I noticed you have tarox as well
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I only run Tarox discs (F2000) on stock calipers with brake stiffening kit and Ferodo DS Performance pads. :ashamed:
Feels good though. Better bite, better modulation. I was thinking with a BBK feel is further improved.
Wonder why you don't feel much of an improvement. :sad1: Glad to read such a honest statement.
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EBC - through a contact I could get their pads at a knocked down price. I tried red stuff on one car, and yellow stuff on a track car. Red stuff were terrible on the road, and yellow stuff were horrid on track.
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I only run Tarox discs (F2000) on stock calipers with brake stiffening kit and Ferodo DS Performance pads. :ashamed:
Feels good though. Better bite, better modulation. I was thinking with a BBK feel is further improved.
Wonder why you don't feel much of an improvement. :sad1: Glad to read such a honest statement.
I am very disappointed with mine to be frank compared to stock. It feels very much the same.... I am going to a garage tomorrow so will ask them to take a look. I presume they would be able to tell that they bedded or not bedded in properly.
My missus car which is mark 5 gt dsg has brakes miles better then my gti with 10 pot tarox bbk kit. They look totally stock but with dsg brakes I think are slightly different due to different use etc as little engine braking. They have great force and modulation which I miss in my gti. Was hoping to get it with bbk...
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EBC - through a contact I could get their pads at a knocked down price. I tried red stuff on one car, and yellow stuff on a track car. Red stuff were terrible on the road, and yellow stuff were horrid on track.
It may have just been the EBC greens I had but did you think the brakes felt like they had no bite? Like someone put grease on the discs? They had no feel and felt like a block of wood was touching the disc
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EBC = crap
:fighting:
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EBC - through a contact I could get their pads at a knocked down price. I tried red stuff on one car, and yellow stuff on a track car. Red stuff were terrible on the road, and yellow stuff were horrid on track.
It may have just been the EBC greens I had but did you think the brakes felt like they had no bite? Like someone put grease on the discs? They had no feel and felt like a block of wood was touching the disc
Where do I start.....?
Red - No bite, narrow temperature band where they work and once exceeded are scary. The yellow stuff pads were dire when cold, poor when hot, inconsistent, and wore out before my eyes.
As I could get the pads so cheap (less than 50% retail) my brother tried a set of yellow stuff pads at the same time on a Clio 182. They didn't even last a track day! By comparison DS2500s on my track car have lasted 2 seasons (8 track days + a 6hr endurance event) and are about 2/3rs worn. On the clio DS2500s lasted 2 track days and near enough 2 years of road use.
Cheap and nasty E90 pads from a part factor are better!