MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Performance Modifications => Modifications & Technical Area => APR Zone => Topic started by: RossL on March 07, 2012, 12:56:59 am
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This is something that probably gets asked quite a bit and everyone has mixed opinions on it, Ive never got a straight answer.
My Golf has an APR Stage 1 Remap, Ive been recommended to run the car on Premium unleaded (Shell V Power I use) now alot of people say with a remapped car its essential to run it on premium fuel.
Is it true or just aload of rubbish ?
Thanks
Ross.
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Is your's a switchable map?
You can normally have 95 and 98 RON maps switchable via the cruise stalk on APR. :happy2:
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I don't think it's essential to run it on Premium fuel.
However you should run the map in 95Ron mode if you do use normal fuel. You will just suffer a performance loss in terms of outright power/torque
FWIW the difference of £4-5 or so for a full tank (based on V-Power being about 8ppl more than 95) i would rather run the premium as you do get better MPG.
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you can switch your map on APR i had mine last week and love it the noise over standard is just immense
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I havn't got cruise on mine, but im probably going to get it installed.
Thanks for the responses, I agree its worth it to run it on V Power anyway.
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I had mine done today and on stage 1 you can only switch between mapped and stock. Don't know if all 2.0tfsi are like this or just my ecu variant.
Some models have 95 and 98 Ron switch ability.
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I had mine done today and on stage 1 you can only switch between mapped and stock.
Mine has 95. 98, valet and stock maps and it's only stage 1 but a TSI. :confused:
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I had mine done today and on stage 1 you can only switch between mapped and stock.
Mine has 95. 98, valet and stock maps and it's only stage 1 but a TSI. :confused:
Same here.
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Are your maps v3?
Or is it to do with the newer ecu? Someone else I know with an R only has stock and mapped switch ability also
I think on stage 2+ you get all the extra settings
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AFAIK the fully loaded ECU is standard now. :smiley:
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Are your maps v3?
Or is it to do with the newer ecu? Someone else I know with an R only has stock and mapped switch ability also
I think on stage 2+ you get all the extra settings
Me and Hedge are both on 2.0 TSI cars not TFSI
However i think as mike says the fully loaded ECU is standard :happy2:
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Well to be honest I haven't tried it but Greg did say that on my ecu I would only be able to switch between stock and map.
Also on my manual it says
Seat Leon Euro my2009 2.0t fsi stages 1/2 v3.1 testpipes (single program)
Mode 1 98 ron octane chipped program
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Have decat kev?
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Sportscat why?
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Sportscat why?
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Test pipes (I think) is the code to defeat lambda faults Caused by decat
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Well to be honest I haven't tried it but Greg did say that on my ecu I would only be able to switch between stock and map.
Also on my manual it says
Seat Leon Euro my2009 2.0t fsi stages 1/2 v3.1 testpipes (single program)
Mode 1 98 ron octane chipped program
Kev I think its just the V3.1 software that doesn't yet have all modes for the Stage 1, the V3.0 does but we are running the slightly newer software in the TFSI. Stage 2 has all modes.
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Just been reading the instructions to change to stock mode and it seems very complex just to change maps :laugh: have you got a security code for yours?
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Don't have any codes and can't get it to work
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Just been reading the instructions to change to stock mode and it seems very complex just to change maps :laugh: have you got a security code for yours?
It tried explaining it by text and it sounded nails.
Actually doing it is super simple
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I've followed the instructions over and over again and nothing happens.
Looks like this map cannot be switched to stock unless I'm being very stupid
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Well spoke to Greg and stage 1 version 3.1 doesn't have the switch to stock function hence why I couldn't get it to work.
Only stage 2 and 2+ has that function.
That clears that up then.
I was just curious as let's face it once mapped would you want to go back standard?
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Well spoke to Greg and stage 1 version 3.1 doesn't have the switch to stock function hence why I couldn't get it to work.
Only stage 2 and 2+ has that function.
That clears that up then.
I was just curious as let's face it once mapped would you want to go back standard?
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If your wife's driving. Yes :scared: :scared:
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it is also useful to run in stock to diagnose issues / had to fill with poor quality fuel etc :happy2:
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Don't get me wrong it would be better for dealer visits
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If all the old APR threads where still here, you could have used the search facility :P :P
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I have an apr stage 1 with 95 98 and stock maps but the 95 map seems quicker than 98?
Is there a chance the maps are installed the wrong way round I would expect the 98 map to have slightly more timing and there's no way to know which map you have selected when doing it on the cruise stalk
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Normally the flash of the CEL tells you which mode you are in. When i had APR it was as follows
1 Flash - Stock
2 Flash - 95 Ron
3 Flash - 98 Ron
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Programming details are on their web site. :happy2:
http://www.goapr.co.uk/support/emcs/mk4-on-off.php
http://www.goapr.co.uk/support/emcs/mk4-on-off-res.php
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Normally the flash of the CEL tells you which mode you are in. When i had APR it was as follows
1 Flash - Stock
2 Flash - 95 Ron
3 Flash - 98 Ron
But if they had flash 2 as the 98 ron and flash 3 as the 95 then he could be in the wrong map.
FWIW when i was runing the BETA maps my performance maps were in reverse order ie 100 RON first to 95 Ron last
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Normally the flash of the CEL tells you which mode you are in. When i had APR it was as follows
1 Flash - Stock
2 Flash - 95 Ron
3 Flash - 98 Ron
But if they had flash 2 as the 98 ron and flash 3 as the 95 then he could be in the wrong map.
FWIW when i was runing the BETA maps my performance maps were in reverse order ie 100 RON first to 95 Ron last
You can ask for them to program it how you like. I was asked what order i wanted when Greg did it for me so i just asked for it in order.
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Ive got an APR dealer near me and am considering going Stage 1.. Firstly (probably been asked a million times before) how much difference is there from stock? Noticeably much quicker? And secondly would I be better off having it remapped with use of a rolling road? I dont think the dealer near me has one so am a bit wary of just tweaking it up and driving away without know that everything like fuel/air ratios etc are in line and not doing damage anywhere.
Thanks.
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What car is it on?
The jump between stock and Stage1 for me was big!
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Its an 05 GTI golf. Totally stock at the moment.
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Stage 1 is generally the biggest gain in BHP for least moolah.
After that it becomes the law of diminishing returns for more and more money until you start replacing the turbo etc. Then it starts all over again.
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A bit wary of going Stage 1. May ask for 1 of those trials to see exactly how much better the car is with it. How long do these turbo's usually last? Mines over 100k so not sure if i should put extra strain on it as I wouldnt be looking to go OTT and upgrade the turbo etc.
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Normally the flash of the CEL tells you which mode you are in. When i had APR it was as follows
1 Flash - Stock
2 Flash - 95 Ron
3 Flash - 98 Ron
But if they had flash 2 as the 98 ron and flash 3 as the 95 then he could be in the wrong map.
FWIW when i was runing the BETA maps my performance maps were in reverse order ie 100 RON first to 95 Ron last
You can ask for them to program it how you like. I was asked what order i wanted when Greg did it for me so i just asked for it in order.
Yes that's what I meant, I know the flashing order and they told me three flashes was 98 but I've left it on what I thought was the 95 map since getting it done because its noticeably different it seems, surely it's possible to upload the maps in the wrong order?