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Title: Bull dogs
Post by: mortygttdi on March 07, 2012, 04:04:34 pm
Any one got one? daughter was looking for a dog and these seam really child/adult friendly.

Keep seeing Meaty(Rob Dyrdeks) Bulldogs

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Darren
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: MAT ED30 on March 07, 2012, 04:08:17 pm
i would look on the kennel club website and try find a good breeder as its what i have done with my staff and have a chat with them about the breed as they with have the mother and know the father and give you all the info you need. i do like em and robs dogs are nice
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: mortygttdi on March 07, 2012, 04:11:34 pm
Cheers Mat will have a look :happy2:
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: Deako on March 07, 2012, 04:15:24 pm
Personally, i would advise against a KC breeder. They breed to breed standards, with inbred dogs and certain stances. They will suffer with massive breathing and health problems.

Find some independent breeders that do not breed to specific standards.

However, IMO, unless you desperately want a bulldog, i would urge to to consider rehoming a dog in need. There are too many breeders out there that constantly pump puppies out without thinking about the consequences of unwanted dogs in the world and where they end up.
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: MAT ED30 on March 07, 2012, 04:19:50 pm
what i am saying is get some info from breeders and start with kc i.e. do the homework  :smiley: and i know all about how bad some breed are and you should try your local rescue place too as you would be shocked as to what breeds they get in  :scared: someone i know got a dog de bordeaux for next to nothing and he is massive,got him as a pup
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: Tamiyoman on March 07, 2012, 04:40:23 pm
what i am saying is get some info from breeders and start with kc i.e. do the homework  :smiley: and i know all about how bad some breed are and you should try your local rescue place too as you would be shocked as to what breeds they get in  :scared: someone i know got a dog de bordeaux for next to nothing and he is massive,got him as a pup

My mate has a Dog De Bordeaux called Rocky and he is mahoosive, when I go round he puts his front paws on my shoulders and I am almost 6'4" , one thing about DGB and Bulldogs tho is they  :drool: a lot  :happy2:
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: VC on March 07, 2012, 04:45:46 pm
Sometimes though to guarantee temperament especially when kids are concerned pedigree's are the wisest choice, our pooch is a 7th generation pedigree and she's a text book dog in every way for her breed
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: mortygttdi on March 07, 2012, 04:51:17 pm
We've never had a dog so all the info is excellent guys, I'm just looking on the kennel club and 2 dogs the daughter has seen Siberian Husky and a Bulldog there is some pure breeds on Oodle Marketplace and also some available on the find a puppy on the kennel club.

Darren
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: Tamiyoman on March 07, 2012, 04:57:18 pm
Sometimes though to guarantee temperament especially when kids are concerned pedigree's are the wisest choice, our pooch is a 7th generation pedigree and she's a text book dog in every way for her breed

I think breeders are like VW garages, some good some bad, if they are well known and dogs cared for  and you see both parents and temperaments your usually ok, obviously with pedigrees due to breeding there are usually genetic traits to watch for, but you can find some of that from the dogs parents or grandparents for long standing breeders.

My mums Westie (Millie) came from a well known breeder and the dogs mother won many best of breed awards and so did her Great grandmother (whose sister Remy was my mums previous westie!), very typical of the breed, proper little terrier, into everything!.

Do research on breeder and go to see the puppies (oo-er) several times with parents before taking it and you should be ok.

 
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on March 07, 2012, 04:57:48 pm

Fun times ahead...
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: Tamiyoman on March 07, 2012, 05:02:37 pm

Fun times ahead...

Fun apart from all the crap everywhere and them chewing everyhting until they learn whats not on!  :happy2:, after that dogs are great!
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: nads1_uk on March 07, 2012, 08:46:31 pm
I've got one, had her 6 1/2 years. Couple of things to bear in mind
1 costs keep them insured vets bills are expensive as is the insurance.
2 excercise don't think they are lazy mine walks couple of miles a day and can catch a lab. They're quick over short distances
3 personally I'd be careful getting a rescues dog if you've got kids as they are powerful dogs

Having said all that get one. They're easy to train. Excellent with kids. I've got a 19 month old and they get on like a house on fire. The bully is very protective with isn't a bad thing.

Agree with the comments some breeders love the breed but not the dogs. Do alot of research and you'll be fine. Pm me if you want any further help.

Ps you can see her and my neo mastiff in the dog picture thread

Andy
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: mortygttdi on March 08, 2012, 06:01:11 am
I've got one, had her 6 1/2 years. Couple of things to bear in mind
1 costs keep them insured vets bills are expensive as is the insurance.
2 excercise don't think they are lazy mine walks couple of miles a day and can catch a lab. They're quick over short distances
3 personally I'd be careful getting a rescues dog if you've got kids as they are powerful dogs

Having said all that get one. They're easy to train. Excellent with kids. I've got a 19 month old and they get on like a house on fire. The bully is very protective with isn't a bad thing.

Agree with the comments some breeders love the breed but not the dogs. Do alot of research and you'll be fine. Pm me if you want any further help.

Ps you can see her and my neo mastiff in the dog picture thread

Andy

Cheers Nads thats great and thank the rest of you for the fantastic advice.
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: VC on March 08, 2012, 09:28:23 am
..its worth saying too that puppies need occupying, if you dont keep their attention they can get destructive to get your attention. Lots of toys and different things for them to chew for the puppy stage.

You'll get alot of spots on the carpet, but choose a word for the 'toilet' and take them out more than you need to and that milestone will be passed easily, if its your first dog i can recommend a local puppy training class - this will give you the control and help establish the relationship with the dog if you struggle at all with things like walking to heel, stopping them jumping up, recall etc etc

sounds harsh, but getting them a pet cage to sleep in at night for the younger years can give you peace of mind too
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: simonp on March 08, 2012, 09:31:54 am
Have you seen how much a Bulldog pup costs?!  :surprised:
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: VC on March 08, 2012, 09:35:38 am
cost should never be a factor, its about the right dog

our spaniel was well over £700, by balance that out over how many years they live for and its not that crazy imho

you buy more than a dog, you buy a family member  :innocent:
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: simonp on March 08, 2012, 10:08:11 am
Bulldogs are twice that, though. That's just silly money...
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: GTIjames on March 08, 2012, 11:21:45 am
Bulldogs are twice that, though. That's just silly money...

its to do with demand as in london every chav/wanna be drug dealer has one, seems to be the latest fashion accessory and a really thick metal chain is a must apparently...



 

Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: nads1_uk on March 08, 2012, 11:25:43 am
Thats was my point in a round about kind of way.

  My bulldog was £2000, insurance is £80 per month and food about £40.

What is was meaning was don't get one if money is tight because as a general rule bulldogs will need to go to the vets more often as they suffer from breathing problems, skin issues and joint problems to name a few.  I personally would beg steal and borrow to get the money if she needed any vet work but having the insurance is a massive weight off - if she needs anything I take her to the vets and the insurance pays.

Totally agree with the family member thought doesn't matter how crap my days' been I see her and my neo and after being with them for no more than 5 minutes alls well in the world.

Andy
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: simonp on March 08, 2012, 12:43:15 pm
I feed my 2 dogs for around £20 a month and have no insurance, as the breed has no inherent defects and as a result they're both fit and healthy. Couldn't be doing with something high maintenance and that cost me quarter of a pretty decent car in the first place!
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: MAT ED30 on March 08, 2012, 12:49:34 pm
as above i had insurance for years on both my dogs but stopped it years ago as the excess covered most things so was not worth it
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: simonp on March 08, 2012, 12:56:06 pm
I had it and never used it. Knocked it on the head when we got pooch junior, as the premium more than doubled for 2 dogs. So much for bulk discount!
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: Deako on March 08, 2012, 01:04:35 pm
as above i had insurance for years on both my dogs but stopped it years ago as the excess covered most things so was not worth it

We pay £22 per month to cover off any eventualities for 2x Jack Russells. A big vet bill (and some of my relatives have been stung) can be many thousands. We had to have our dogs claw removed down the quick last Saturday. Operation and all treatments so far is in excess of £230. Which we can claim back (apart from our £60 excess).
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: rob172cup on March 09, 2012, 01:12:02 pm
We've never had a dog so all the info is excellent guys, I'm just looking on the kennel club and 2 dogs the daughter has seen Siberian Husky and a Bulldog there is some pure breeds on Oodle Marketplace and also some available on the find a puppy on the kennel club.

Darren

I don't know much about bulldogs but I have a husky and they are very hard work, she malts alot and twice a year she sheds her coat and no matter how bad you think it is trust me your not thinking bad enough. She is very strong minded so you have to be tough and strict. If she is off the lead she chooses when to come back.

I have four dogs in total and the husky is harder work than the other three put together . But on the other hand she is very loving and well behaved in the house but you do have to be firm with her. If you give her an inch she will take a mile.
Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: scooba on March 09, 2012, 07:05:04 pm
Hi my Brother bought a french Bulldog and it has cost a fortune to buy and a fortune ever since in vet bills . Research your breed and talk to other Bulldog owners beware off the sellers .My brother is huge and had to be stopped from going round and battering the breader due to the heartache etc with his bulldog ,The breeder suggested swapping it but that wasn't the point his kids had fallen in love with it ,Vet bills in the last year have come to more than 2k.

Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: simonp on March 09, 2012, 10:23:54 pm
Get an Irish Terrier instead. They're great with kids (if that's a requirement), don't get sick, don't require insurance, don't eat much, are happy with whatever exercise you're willing to supply and you'll be helping out a breed on the vulnerable breeds list.

Cutest puppies ever, too!

Title: Re: Bull dogs
Post by: janus909GTI on March 09, 2012, 11:04:48 pm
hey Morty, we have had two in the family for the last 15 odd years, unfortunately Humphrey passed away a couple of years ago  but the latest addition to the family is Hugo, he's just turned 2.

The breed are amazing, Loyal, very protective, pretty obedient (when they want to be) great with Children and other dogs.  As Nads said, dispite their appearance they are fit and strong dogs and need a good amount of exercise. 

In all our years we have never really had any problems with the dogs health wise although i do know they are prone to certain breathing problems, pet insurance is a must.  Lastly they are expensive to buy, Hugo cost just over £2,000 ....

if you want to ask any specific questions pm me at anytime....

anyway a thumbs up from me, best of luck! :)

here he is Hugo.....

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oh, and ours tends to think he's a cat choosing to spend most of his time walking along the tops of the sofa before more often than not falling off....

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