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Title: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: Matto on March 10, 2012, 05:40:10 pm
Well after seeing Richwig83's write up on fitting the insert I have been considering getting one now the GT is mapped. Only question I have is powerflex do 2 different ones for the diesel. One which is slightly softer supposedly so you do get much vibration. Just wondered if any diesel drivers here have them fitted and which one you chose.

Softer one http://www.powerflex.co.uk/product-details/Lower+Engine+Mount+Insert+%28Large%29+Diesel+/1870.html (http://www.powerflex.co.uk/product-details/Lower+Engine+Mount+Insert+%28Large%29+Diesel+/1870.html)

Standard one http://www.powerflex.co.uk/product-details/Lower+Engine+Mount+Insert+%28Large%29/505.html (http://www.powerflex.co.uk/product-details/Lower+Engine+Mount+Insert+%28Large%29/505.html)

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: PDT on March 10, 2012, 06:28:18 pm
I have a few of these in boxes on the shelf, not sure which it is (hard or soft) but can check for you if you like.

Can have it at cost + postage.
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: Matto on March 10, 2012, 09:57:52 pm
Yeah ok mate thanks. I think the softer diesel one is red and the normal one yellow.

How much would that be?
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: PDT on March 11, 2012, 10:14:17 am
part numbers I have are: PFF85-504 (YELLOW)

Have 2 brand new and one that has been removed from the box and is a bit grubby but never installed. New ones will be £15 posted. Grubby one £12 posted.
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: vRS_Pagey on March 11, 2012, 06:48:19 pm
Matto, I have these fitted in both my vRS (petrol - yellow insert) and swmbo's GT (diesel - red insert).

Dave, those prices are ridiculous, they would fly out in the for sale section!!!!
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: Phil Miller on March 11, 2012, 07:08:58 pm
i fitted one in my diesel, bit of a mare to fit, but one thing it did do was show up the fact my DMF isnt great the vib was so bad i removed it within 50miles
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: vRS_Pagey on March 11, 2012, 07:53:32 pm
i fitted one in my diesel, bit of a mare to fit, but one thing it did do was show up the fact my DMF isnt great the vib was so bad i removed it within 50miles

Really?  Took under 15 minutes to do mine, and that was including jacking up etc.

Did you use the copper slip to lube it up before insertion?? Ooer...
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: Phil Miller on March 11, 2012, 08:05:30 pm
i fitted one in my diesel, bit of a mare to fit, but one thing it did do was show up the fact my DMF isnt great the vib was so bad i removed it within 50miles

Really?  Took under 15 minutes to do mine, and that was including jacking up etc.

Did you use the copper slip to lube it up before insertion?? Ooer...

yeah used that, in the end i also used wd40 and the tranny jack, funny it took seconds to get out  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: Matto on March 11, 2012, 09:23:03 pm
i fitted one in my diesel, bit of a mare to fit, but one thing it did do was show up the fact my DMF isnt great the vib was so bad i removed it within 50miles

Which one did you fit? The red or the yellow one?
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: Phil Miller on March 11, 2012, 09:25:01 pm
well theres the thing it was the red one, still to this day cant work out why it was a mare
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: Matto on March 11, 2012, 09:31:12 pm
It seems its abit hit and miss as to whether you get an easy or hard one. Just wondered on the colour as the red one is listed for the diesel. How did you find it once fitted other than showing your DMF up?
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: Phil Miller on March 11, 2012, 09:36:58 pm
It seems its abit hit and miss as to whether you get an easy or hard one. Just wondered on the colour as the red one is listed for the diesel. How did you find it once fitted other than showing your DMF up?

Yeah it was ok, the vib done my head in, but i should have added i fitted the p/flex bottom arm bushes at the same time, the whole lot made the car firmer to drive, the following week i fitted my coilovers and to this day i still wonder, you see i fitted my coilovers on the ramp at work and drove out the garage with the steering light on (thinking it will go out once i drive in a straight line) anyway it didnt i got about 2 miles home lost all power steering and it was the torque sensor was furbed, i had a s/h subframe and rack in the garage so i swapped the whole lot, i have read on the net that the racks on early cars are a little soft so it could have been the harder suspenion or the vib there the subframe or even the ball joint splitter when i took the legs off, i never did refit the bottom arms with the P/flex bushes, didnt want to temp fate  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: sf1506 on March 12, 2012, 06:06:41 pm
I'm having the same problem too mate  :rolleye:
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: vRSAlex on March 12, 2012, 07:26:57 pm
Superpro also do a version for the diesel cars.  It's a really nice feel compared to the Powerflex imo with minimal increase in vibration.  They have only just released this new compound after months of testing.  It's very slightly higher in price than the Powerflex but I believe it to be better quality.
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: sf1506 on March 12, 2012, 08:07:52 pm
Any idea on where I can get one from??
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: vRSAlex on March 12, 2012, 09:13:18 pm
Any idea on where I can get one from??

Me  :happy2:
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: schwartz on March 13, 2012, 09:20:57 pm
Any idea on where I can get one from??

Me  :happy2:

How much dude?

Superpro also do 2 versions don't they? A fast road and a competition?
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: vRSAlex on March 13, 2012, 09:49:32 pm
Any idea on where I can get one from??

Me  :happy2:

How much dude?

Superpro also do 2 versions don't they? A fast road and a competition?

They do three compound versions now.  Diesel, road and competition which are all available in the two different shapes depending on the oem bush.

The insert for the older shaped oem bush is £29.50 delivered and £35.76 delivered for the newer shape.  All compounds are the same prices.
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: sf1506 on March 14, 2012, 04:44:05 pm
Well mines a 56 plate and a diesel mate, so what's the next step??  :happy2:
Sorry Alex didn't realise you had a garage  :ashamed:
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: apples12 on March 14, 2012, 05:44:12 pm
Got mine from Eurocarparts £17.66 and its in their branch next day it appeared to be the same price for the 'standard' yellow one and for the 'red' diesel one
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: sf1506 on March 15, 2012, 12:21:02 pm
I'm after the superpro one mate
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: vRSAlex on March 15, 2012, 07:05:59 pm
Well mines a 56 plate and a diesel mate, so what's the next step??  :happy2:
Sorry Alex didn't realise you had a garage  :ashamed:

The superpro diesel bushes should be in stock with me at the start of next week.  Superpro have been out of stock.  Just give me a call if you want to order one.
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: sf1506 on March 15, 2012, 08:12:26 pm
Ok mate I take it's the 07866 number??
Steve
Title: Re: Diesel torque arm insert
Post by: vRSAlex on March 15, 2012, 08:48:00 pm
Ok mate I take it's the 07866 number??
Steve

That's the one.  Still waiting for bt to come and install a line.