MK5 Golf GTI

All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: heavyd on March 17, 2012, 10:27:56 pm

Title: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: heavyd on March 17, 2012, 10:27:56 pm
I've found that I get a squeak when I pull away from standing still no idea why, got it in my head its the engine mounts, so was wondering which uprated ones are best to get :stupid:
thinking towards the THS ones so far
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: reflex11 on March 17, 2012, 10:53:38 pm
bsh I heard was good
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: vRS Carl on March 17, 2012, 11:09:56 pm
I had a full set of VF Engineering ones in my last vRS. They made it sound like a 6 Pot Turbo which was rather nice. Not too harsh either at motorway speeds.
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on March 17, 2012, 11:11:48 pm
bsh I heard was good

Been happy with the BSH ones. Makes a rough / raw engine sound in the cabin but in a very nice way
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: yin on March 17, 2012, 11:16:23 pm
Full set of THS  :happy2:
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: h4rdy on March 17, 2012, 11:18:44 pm
Full set of THS  :happy2:

+1
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: reflex11 on March 18, 2012, 12:00:50 am
is this the set you guys are talking about?

http://www.thsperformance.co.uk/category/FR3_Engine_Mounting_Systems/2005_Present__MK5_6_Platform_VAG_cars_,b.html


FR3 Complete Engine Mounting System 1.8 TFSI 2.0T FSI/TDI
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: ROH ECHT on March 18, 2012, 01:37:21 am
I have BSH mounts. They keep everything tight under there. VF seems to be a bit softer from what others think, and Black Forrest Industries (BFI) has three stages of mounts so you have more options with them. Guys that chose BFI seem happy with BFI's stage 2 mounts.

http://store.blackforestindustries.com/enpe5.html

http://www.redline-motorworks.com/BSH_2_0T_FSI_Complete_Billet_Engine_Mount_Package_p/10550101-fslash-0102-fslash-2113.htm

http://www.namotorsports.net/VF-Engineering/Engine/Engine-Mounts/Part-Number=VF.MKV.PK.4CYL
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: fab5freddy on March 18, 2012, 08:15:08 am
^^^^^^ @ Roh Echt, any feedback or knowledge about these state side?

http://www.034motorsport.com/chassis-components-volkswagen-motor-mount-set-density-line-mk5-20t-fsi-vr6-p-21994.html?osCsid=kn814uu1hjrhob6b35mg98mdn0 (http://www.034motorsport.com/chassis-components-volkswagen-motor-mount-set-density-line-mk5-20t-fsi-vr6-p-21994.html?osCsid=kn814uu1hjrhob6b35mg98mdn0)
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: john_o on March 18, 2012, 08:22:17 am
prob just your engine cover hitting something...
if you want mounts there are RedRobins and my reviews in the 'Product Review' section  :happy2:
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: heavyd on March 18, 2012, 08:25:03 am
Ok thanks for info folks :happy2:
Doubt it's my engine cover as its sitting in my shed :laugh:
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: john_o on March 18, 2012, 08:28:50 am
 :grin: prob not then  :signLOL:
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: vRSAlex on March 18, 2012, 08:37:25 am
Has to be the Vibratechnics mounts.  Easy to get and at a good price now that VWR are not exclusive on them.
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: RedRobin on March 18, 2012, 08:59:16 am
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Not everybody likes the sounds which having aftermerket engine mounts transfer to the cabin but I love them! Grrrrrrrrr !!.......

As said in john_o and my reviews, it's best to go for all three mounts.

The squeak described might be another bush such as on the front ARB, though that would tend to occur whenever the suspension flexes.
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: heavyd on March 18, 2012, 09:08:40 am
Has to be the Vibratechnics mounts.  Easy to get and at a good price now that VWR are not exclusive on them.

Where's the best place to get them Alex?
I take it all three are a must?
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: JackG on March 18, 2012, 12:40:15 pm
Apart from stopping engine hop, is there any other benefit from these mounts  :popcornsoda: do make your handling any better?
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: 56OctyVRS on March 18, 2012, 12:51:55 pm
If you dont like the increased noise from the mounts then VWR recommend just fitting the lower dog bone mount and leaving the other two as standard.  Thats what I am going to do.
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on March 18, 2012, 01:04:00 pm

The noise is really addictive but you soon get used to it  :sad1:
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: vRS_Pagey on March 18, 2012, 01:43:21 pm
I had a full set of VF Engineering ones in my last vRS. They made it sound like a 6 Pot Turbo which was rather nice. Not too harsh either at motorway speeds.

Indeed they did, but at £160 per mount + VAT....... :surprised:
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: ROH ECHT on March 18, 2012, 05:36:25 pm
Nothing being said about them here, sorry.
The oem design concerns me as it appears to have weak spots in them. I leaned toward aftermarket as the design of them seems to be capable of evenly taking forces from all directions and are more solid throughout.

Look again at the broken oem version and imagine that even if made of stronger rubber as 034's is, there is still portions of the oem design that are rather thin;

http://store.blackforestindustries.com/bfimk4mk5mk6.html
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: vRSAlex on March 18, 2012, 06:18:59 pm
Has to be the Vibratechnics mounts.  Easy to get and at a good price now that VWR are not exclusive on them.

Where's the best place to get them Alex?
I take it all three are a must?

Me  :happy2:

I'm a Vibratechnics dealer.  Pop me a pm and I can send you over some prices.

I would go for all three tbh.  I currently have the vt lower and the ths uppers, but I will be changing to the vt uppers as soon as I can.
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: fab5freddy on March 18, 2012, 07:23:00 pm
Nothing being said about them here, sorry.
The oem design concerns me as it appears to have weak spots in them. I leaned toward aftermarket as the design of them seems to be capable of evenly taking forces from all directions and are more solid throughout.

Look again at the broken oem version and imagine that even if made of stronger rubber as 034's is, there is still portions of the oem design that are rather thin;

http://store.blackforestindustries.com/bfimk4mk5mk6.html


 :happy2:
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: Weston on March 18, 2012, 08:56:23 pm
I had a full set of VF Engineering ones in my last vRS. They made it sound like a 6 Pot Turbo which was rather nice. Not too harsh either at motorway speeds.

Indeed they did, but at £160 per mount + VAT....... :surprised:

I've got these too. Combined with WALK there is no wheel hop, and wheel spin is reduced. Well worth it IMO
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: RedRobin on March 18, 2012, 10:28:10 pm

The oem design concerns me as it appears to have weak spots in them. I leaned toward aftermarket as the design of them seems to be capable of evenly taking forces from all directions and are more solid throughout.

Look again at the broken oem version and imagine that even if made of stronger rubber as 034's is, there is still portions of the oem design that are rather thin;


....As with most OEM components, the engine mounts are a compromise - The GTI version of the Golf may be considered more 'sporty' by Volkswagen but they go for the mass market who prefer a quieter car with a relatively more comfy ride, whereas us 'enthusiast drivers' prefer some sound and firmer feedback etc.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FRR%2FRR_TshirtGolfMod.jpg&hash=c5573bc81fbc453f85b4c1db6523c7b8b7edd949)
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: Sammy on March 19, 2012, 03:05:05 am
Sounds like a interesting worthwhile mod, how does this increase the sound though? I mean it's just mounts and also what other benefits do they have?
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: ROH ECHT on March 19, 2012, 04:06:23 am

The oem design concerns me as it appears to have weak spots in them. I leaned toward aftermarket as the design of them seems to be capable of evenly taking forces from all directions and are more solid throughout.

Look again at the broken oem version and imagine that even if made of stronger rubber as 034's is, there is still portions of the oem design that are rather thin;


....As with most OEM components, the engine mounts are a compromise - The GTI version of the Golf may be considered more 'sporty' by Volkswagen but they go for the mass market who prefer a quieter car with a relatively more comfy ride, whereas us 'enthusiast drivers' prefer some sound and firmer feedback etc.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2FRedRobin_05%2FRR%2FRR_TshirtGolfMod.jpg&hash=c5573bc81fbc453f85b4c1db6523c7b8b7edd949)

I LIKE^the shirt.

I too luv my BSH as the vibe and sound is perfect ;]

To last post - the mounts are vibration and sound dampeners. You stiffen them and more of both comes through.
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: heavyd on March 19, 2012, 04:02:59 pm
Think I might try to hitch a ride in TFSI Mikes so see how bad the extra noise is before I buy any ( any chance of a ride at the PDt RR day mike :laugh:)
If it isnt too bad, I'll be in touch Alex :happy2:
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on March 19, 2012, 05:08:21 pm
Think I might try to hitch a ride in TFSI Mikes so see how bad the extra noise is before I buy any ( any chance of a ride at the PDt RR day mike :laugh:)
If it isnt too bad, I'll be in touch Alex :happy2:

 :happy2:

I don't notice the 'Growl' anymore  :sad1:  but when mate nick hears it he can tell straight away.  I'm used to it now I think.
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: Janner_Sy on March 19, 2012, 05:24:54 pm
I thought that was your exhaust mike. Forgot you had the mounts. Maybe that's why yours seems louder inside compared to the R
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: Tfsi_Mike on March 19, 2012, 05:55:45 pm
I thought that was your exhaust mike. Forgot you had the mounts. Maybe that's why yours seems louder inside compared to the R

True  :happy2:
Title: Re: engine mounts - what type is best to get?
Post by: ROH ECHT on March 20, 2012, 02:16:58 am
It is true that they calm down a bit later on...or we just get used to them ;]   :drinking: