MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Zodium on March 24, 2012, 04:40:52 pm
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What would you guys do first?
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What would you guys do first?
Map, more smiles per mile :happy2:
Mt Ed30 is going to be mapped in next 4 weeks and yes the Pesky's could do with a refurb too :happy2:
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MAP :driver:
that is all! :wink:
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Neither!
Not until you've enhanced the car's handling so it works with the extra power of a remap better. Also brakes!
Then remap before wheels refurb.
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If your Mrs drives the car, deffinately Map first!
:signLOL:
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Very funny :grin:
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Neither!
Not until you've enhanced the car's handling so it works with the extra power of a remap better. Also brakes!
Then remap before wheels refurb.
I'm with you on that. The extra power soon highlights the weakness of the standard brakes :chicken:
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What brakes would you recommend?
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What brakes would you recommend?
....That's a question with many answers! There's quite a few options and each at a variety of cost. If off the shelf and you got around £1,500 to spare then I'd naturally suggest the well proven AP Racing 4-pots. But check out DaveB's threads - He really is an expert on all the options and knows how to be cost effective.
It also depends if you want to do occasional trackdays or not.
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Thanks robin,not to sure about the track,I live out on the edge of the fens so get to have a good blast now and again with nobody around :driver:
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So it's what's termed 'Fast Road' use for you.
The car itself doesn't actually know whether it's on track or on road, it's more that on track it's subjected to much longer periods of being driven hard and using more braking extremes. Consequently, as DaveB can explain better than myself, frictional heat and recovery is what it's all about.
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Go before show for me. :happy2:
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Neither!
Not until you've enhanced the car's handling so it works with the extra power of a remap better. Also brakes!
Then remap before wheels refurb.
Stage 1 is ok on standard brakes isn't it Robin? :confused:
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Come on lads the brakes aren't that bad
You make out like there made of chocolate :innocent:
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Neither!
Not until you've enhanced the car's handling so it works with the extra power of a remap better. Also brakes!
Then remap before wheels refurb.
Stage 1 is ok on standard brakes isn't it Robin? :confused:
It's possible to cook standard brakes without a remap, it all comes down to how you use the car and also what pads / discs you've got - fit some pagid or endless pads (assuming they do them in the GTI fitment) and you'd probably notice a much wider termperature window.
Driven enthusiastically on the road I don't find I have too many issues with the stock brakes (my car is stage 1 Revo K03), but I've little doubt that with continuous hammering they show their shortcomings. I've only found the stock brakes wanting when towing a car trailer, and once when driving very enthusiastically (on the roads surrounding the N-ring).
I'd quite fancy a lightweight 4 pot setup on the front, but I don't think I'm hard enough on the brakes to justify the cost on a road car. I've got over 50% pad left on my car after 40k miles, so generally the stock brakes aren't worked very hard in my case.
As for the OP's question.... I'd go for the remap.
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Neither!
Not until you've enhanced the car's handling so it works with the extra power of a remap better. Also brakes!
Then remap before wheels refurb.
Stage 1 is ok on standard brakes isn't it Robin? :confused:
....Not as inadequate as on Stage 2 but the standard brakes even on a standard GTI lack the pedal response feel of a good aftermarket brake kit. Also, under hard use it's easier to get brake fade on standard brakes. However, a lot depends on how you decide to drive and when you decide to drive enthusiastically that much harder. Stock brakes work but simply not as well.
The performance difference between standard and Stage 1 is greater than the difference between Stage 1 and Stage 2.
Personally, I would rather have more powerful brakes and not need them, than need them and not have them! Just stopping only inches from the side of a truck on stock brakes taught me that! It took me quite a while to get away from the embarrassment of stopping too early with my AP brakes and then having to get back on the throttle again to reach the junction or roundabout! The problem I have now is just making sure that no-one is too close behind me when I want to leave braking late and hard. I have vented S3 brakes on the rear (thanks to DaveB) and so my braking is very well balanced.
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i myself think the standerd brakes are piss poor. if you go for a remap then the brakes should be next on the list to upgrade if not done beforehand.
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I agree - I did most of my handling mods, including brakes, before remapping. In fact, JKM who stood to gain by selling me a remap, told me I was doing it the best way round although most folks don't because of getting the 'most-bang-for-buck' factor.
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Ok, thanks Robin, I'll get looking into this for after next week's remap. I can't wait any longer! I prioritised cosmetic issues and a major service and inspection before the map, so I've shown some restraint! I'm also getting WALK which will help the handling and reduce wheelspin from launch.
I can't have the NQSBBK as I'm on Monza 2's, so I need to find a nice, lightweight set up that will stop better but won't cost a fortune. Any ideas?