MK5 Golf GTI
All Things Mk5 => Mk5 General Area => Topic started by: Norbreck21a on May 08, 2009, 08:14:41 am
-
I was sat here this morning, browsing through my usual parade of VW forum sites, and it struck me that all you ever tend to see is people with problems (I guess that's what the foums are for). They go on about their car still being in warranty and going in again for it's 9th fault etc. etc.
I occured to me, that by their very nature, forums aren't usually full of people posting " my car is totally fault free after 3 years" etc. I was wondering what is the "real" situation regarding the reliability of our MKV's ? Now I know mine is a soot chucker, and therefore not a highly tuned road beast, but anyway, during it's 3 years manufacture warranty, it was totally fault free. I had one recall to check the DMF, (which was OK BTW), other than that, just routine servicing. The same story with my wifes 06 Polo Sport. It's just coming to the end of it's warranty and has been bullet proof.
Now I know the GTI's and R32 are from stock highly tuned specialist vehicles, that many members have modified well beyond the original VW specifications, but just wanted to know, has anyone else had problem free motoring. I'm not talking about, the odd squeak or bulb faiures, or any faults that was directly as a result of a performance modification.
It seems the MKV get's a bad rep for build quality on some forums and was just wondering what my buddies on this forum think ?
-
Mine is coming up for 4 years old this month, I have owned for the last 2 of them - had a couple of things under warranty - door seals, wiper motor, window motor and air con unit - all in the early days. (touch wood) its been fine for the past 12months and I cant fault it. Its aged really well if I'm honest compared to my older cars, when they turned over 3 they started to feel it a little.
Will be sad to see it go really.
-
Are you selling up Neg?
-
I've had no problems whatsoever with my car, owned since October 2007.
-
well....i have got major stone chips on the front of mine, within 5000 miles!
apart from that, my limited time of owning a mk5 has seen completely trouble free motoring.
mk4 was a slightly different story!
-
I have had 4 MKV's most of which have been modified, three of them ran fine, no problems whatsoever :happy2: One of them roasted the gearbox after 4000 miles which was odd but it was sorted straight away by VW and ran fine for another 30,000 miles till I sold her. I have had nothing but good experiences with them :jumpmove:
However my current A3 has been a nightmare, nothing but problems :sick:
-
was that the black caractere one with the gearbox?
i couldnt believe VW did that under warranty!
that was a week before road trip 2007 right? we nearly had a man down! bad times
-
was that the black caractere one with the gearbox?
i couldnt believe VW did that under warranty!
that was a week before road trip 2007 right? we nearly had a man down! bad times
That is the one my man, we were sh*tting ourselves that week :grin: :grin: :grin:
-
Are you selling up Neg?
Sure am :sad:
-
that was a week before road trip 2007 right? we nearly had a man down! bad times
That is the one my man, we were sh*tting ourselves that week :grin: :grin: :grin:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi22.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FPinkyPerky.jpg&hash=b86de8145f3594cc0f94f7d409a4b8ed6aadc777)
-
I was sat here this morning, browsing through my usual parade of VW forum sites, and it struck me that all you ever tend to see is people with problems (I guess that's what the foums are for). They go on about their car still being in warranty and going in again for it's 9th fault etc. etc.
....I don't agree. There are more threads which share the joy of owning a Mk5. This is especially true on this site.
-
that was a week before road trip 2007 right? we nearly had a man down! bad times
That is the one my man, we were sh*tting ourselves that week :grin: :grin: :grin:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi22.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FPinkyPerky.jpg&hash=b86de8145f3594cc0f94f7d409a4b8ed6aadc777)
"oh ha ha" said Jay in a sarcastic tone! ;) :grin:
-
Are you selling up Neg?
Sure am :sad:
What you doing with the CHs, taking them off before you sell?
-
i would have thought they're going on the next car! ;)
-
Are you selling up Neg?
Sure am :sad:
What you doing with the CHs, taking them off before you sell?
Yep, worth more off the car. Will put on the wife's new car or sell - or maybe keep. undecided at the mo.
Edit: unless I find a buyer who wants them on the car
-
Are you selling up Neg?
Sure am :sad:
What you doing with the CHs, taking them off before you sell?
Yep, worth more off the car. Will put on the wife's new car or sell - or maybe keep. undecided at the mo.
Edit: unless I find a buyer who wants them on the car
I would be interested in the rims if you did decide to sell them.
-
I was sat here this morning, browsing through my usual parade of VW forum sites, and it struck me that all you ever tend to see is people with problems (I guess that's what the foums are for). They go on about their car still being in warranty and going in again for it's 9th fault etc. etc.
....I don't agree. There are more threads which share the joy of owning a Mk5. This is especially true on this site.
Robin, your comment is certainly true of this site (which is why I now frequent more than all of the others). However there a number of other site that are very negative towards the MKV especially towards build quality. Now I've never owned a MK4, but it seems a lot of people compare them it the MK5. All I can say if the MK4 was that much better than the MK5, it must have been really special as after 43,000 miles, my motor is still tight, rattle and creak free and prefectly reliable.
A neighbour of mine with a 2 year old A3 however, has had nothing but problems and said he would never own another Audi! (I always thought that Audi's were a step UP in quality from the VW's ?)
-
For JPC,
Oh, forgot to say Jay, I'll be contacting you in the next few weeks to take up your offer of a pro wash and PTG readings on the car, if that's still OK ? :happy2:
-
I think it could be a case of remembering the bad things you hear. Im coming upto 4 years and the only think to go wrong (appart from the white worm!!) was a CV boot dont at the last servise just before the warranty ran out. Also, its not that ofern that you will do a post like.... "drove to work today and guess what..... no problems"
You will allways got what i call Friday afternoon cars, no matter what they will always have problems
-
I think the million dollar question is, would you recommend a MK5 to a family member ? With my experience, the answer would be Yes, in a heartbeat.
-
Touching on what The Wheel Man says, people are far more likely to share bad experiences rather than good experiences. Good experiences are taken as a given.
Yeah there have been stories about the build quality of the MK4 interior is better than the MK5, but that the MK5 completely outdrives and outhandles the MK4.
To answer your question - yes I would recommend it to a family member, but I certainly don't believe that its the best car in its class in particular areas. And I would have no hesitation in recommending other 'hot hatches' to a family member either.
-
I know what you are saying WhiteGTI. I wasn't trying to say that the MK5 Golf was the best car at everything in it's sector. If that were the case, there would be no need for a MK6, and no one would buy anything but a Golf. I have friends that have Focus ST's, Megane Sports and Astra VRX's. They all love them and I'm sure they are all great cars.
The thread really wasn't meant to be "our cars are the best in the world", just do we find it a reliable car, or did VW's game slip with the MK5 ? From my experiences (and the replies on here), I would say that it's certainly no worse than many of it's comtempories, but also maybe no better ?
-
Lol sorry looking back on my reply I don't know why I put that bit in about the other cars, it wasn't exactly relevant haha! :ashamed: :ashamed: :embarrassed:
-
No worries mate :happy2:.
We sometimes forget that there are another whole word of motors out there apart from our beloved Golf's.
-
its a pretty good, well rounded discussion this. just why i like this forum! sorry....off topic!
-
These days, European manufacturers buy common parts from one supplier, like Lucas, Hella or Valeo and variants of them are fitted to their cars. For example, current Renaults use a variant of the MK3 Golf rear caliper, and a lot of electrical sensors fit a whole range of makes and models. So in that respect, most cars are similar without you even realising. Its all down to personal preference.
-
as said its natural to post on negative stuff on forums (in general)
fault codes etc to get some help.
What is noticeable is how many people DONT have problems that are modified on this forum, given the torque and power ripping through VW drivetrain :driver:
-
....
It's been said to me independently by two people who have been in motorsport for many years, that unofficially and as an approximate 'rule-of-thumb', VW build a headroom tolerance of about +40% in their cars. So, in other words, they are generally well built and durable and can take a reasonable increase in performance modification without too much stress.
-
i love the mk5, best car ive owned by miles.
looking at getting a 1.6 fsi for the misses as they can be baught for around 5k now :party:
never had a problem with it except a new cv boot, other bits that went wrong were aftermarket parts!
-
that was a week before road trip 2007 right? we nearly had a man down! bad times
That is the one my man, we were sh*tting ourselves that week :grin: :grin: :grin:
(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi22.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb308%2FRedRobin_05%2FPinkyPerky.jpg&hash=b86de8145f3594cc0f94f7d409a4b8ed6aadc777)
"oh ha ha" said Jay in a sarcastic tone! ;) :grin:
wish you would wear dungarees Jay :wink:
-
Some of the posts regarding problems are rants, where people discover faults and blow off a bit of steam on the forum to get it out of their system before they do the rational bit and get it looked at.
Some of the posts are questions and forums are by far the best place to ask as by and large the members aren't looking to make any money out of you unlike a dealer/garage etc
And some owners are just plain fussy!!! Seriously though, VW have for as long as I can remember marketed the Golf as very slightly upmarket hatch, reflecting the very slightly better engineering going into the car and thus people are going to be picky when it comes to faults as they have paid top dollar for the car.
Having owned 2 mk5s and also a mk4 (plus 2x mk3s and a good few mk2s and even a mk1 many years ago!!!) with a Bora still in the family, I don't think the mk5 is lower quality. The interior of the mk5 has a slightly cheaper looking plastic because that lovely rubber padded interior on the mk4s used to peel and looks nasty as soon as it gets scratched. My Dad's Bora's interior isn't wearing well at all and it doesn't get hard use. My mk4 had a new gearbox before 60k miles and my Leon Cupra (same thing basically) had any number of electrical problems. My first mk5 (soot chucker) had a few issues with its turbo causing a slightly shaky idle but nothing else, and as for my present car, I'm not going to comment as it will curse it!!!! :laugh:
-
Ha ha, slightly off topic, but I can't help noticing how busy Very Cherry has been with the banners :laugh:
-
In 2½ years of ownership with mine, I can say he's not been 'too' bad! All bits and pieces that seem to have 'technical difficulty' all seem to have been around the vicinity of the dash board area....
Worst thing (and potentially most expensive had there not been warranty) was the whole MFD unit in the dash completely going defunked when he was 3 months old so that had to be replaced. Oh and I'm on radio number 3 ... not bad going :happy2:
A few other bits and pieces but don't wanna jinx it else my engine will drop out on the way home or something !!
-
Some of the posts regarding problems are rants, where people discover faults and blow off a bit of steam on the forum to get it out of their system before they do the rational bit and get it looked at.
Some of the posts are questions and forums are by far the best place to ask as by and large the members aren't looking to make any money out of you unlike a dealer/garage etc
And some owners are just plain fussy!!! Seriously though, VW have for as long as I can remember marketed the Golf as very slightly upmarket hatch, reflecting the very slightly better engineering going into the car and thus people are going to be picky when it comes to faults as they have paid top dollar for the car.
....All so true! :happy2:
-
Ha ha, slightly off topic, but I can't help noticing how busy Very Cherry has been with the banners :laugh:
Ditto. I want to design a better signature picture but at the mo, don't have the time. I need some lazy weekends.
-
Ha ha, slightly off topic, but I can't help noticing how busy Very Cherry has been with the banners :laugh:
And have you seen the spelling on yours? :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
-
Hi.I have owned my 06 plate gti for a year and not had a problem with it.I have always owned new minis up untill 2007 and i was never away from the dealer!My last cooper s had to be bought back off me it had that many faults! :sad:
-
Ha ha, slightly off topic, but I can't help noticing how busy Very Cherry has been with the banners :laugh:
And have you seen the spelling on yours? :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Ha ha, hadn't noticed that until now :signLOL:
I'll have a word with VC and see if he can change it.
-
Ha ha, slightly off topic, but I can't help noticing how busy Very Cherry has been with the banners :laugh:
And have you seen the spelling on yours? :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Ha ha, hadn't noticed that until now :signLOL:
I'll have a word with VC and see if he can change it.
:happy2:
-
10,200 miles and not a problem. as for the mk2 thats only broke down about 4 times in its life time (one of them was yesterday when the clutch cable went)
-
Ha ha, slightly off topic, but I can't help noticing how busy Very Cherry has been with the banners :laugh:
And have you seen the spelling on yours? :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
Ha ha, hadn't noticed that until now :signLOL:
I'll have a word with VC and see if he can change it.
....But perhaps VC did it on purpose : - Eco Money
-
Would have been a nice idea Robin, but to be fair to VC, it turns out it was my fault. I misspelled it when I sent the details to him.
Watt it wood bee lyke to bee abal to spewl proparlee? :grin:
-
getting back to topic :grin: :innocent: ..
I've had a few VAG products over the years :
1971 Beetle 1600S - (owned it for a year and half between 1998-00 - Never an engine issue, unless you count the perished fuel lines that made you high on petrol vapour and the constant swimming pool at your feet)
1985 Golf 2 8v GTI - (owned it for a year in 1995 - Ran flawlessly - never any issues)
1992 Golf 2 16v GTI - (owned it for two years, between 1996-98 - Ran flawlessly - never any issues)
1993 Golf 3 1.4 (don't ask) - (owned it for a year in 1994-95 - Ran flawlessly - never any issues)
1995 Polo 1.0 (also.. don't ask) - (owned it for a year 1995-96 - Ran flawlessly - never any issues)
1996 Golf 3 1.8 SE (owned it for a year 1996-97 - Ran flawlessly - never any issues)
1995 Corrado VR6 Storm (owned it for a year 1997-98 - supposed to be a VW approved used car, but exhaust fell off and electronic REV counter failed requiring a new dashboard - all fixed under VW dealer warranty)
1998 Golf 4 1.4 (owned it a year 1998-99 - Ran flawlessly - never any issues)
1995 Audi RS2 Avant (owned it a year 2003-04 Required new DV, Porsche brake disks to be redrilled/cleaned, new wishbone and lots of bushings )
2005 VW Caddy 1.6 Life MPV (based on Golf 5 underpinnings) (owned it 2 years - 2005-07 - Thermostatically controlled radiator fan had a mind of it's own and needed replacing under warranty .. that's it)
and now we run a 1999 New Beetle (obviously based upon the MK4 Golf). We've had it a while now and have done about 58,000 miles on it with no issues.
My Golf V GTI is a 2007,which I've owned since new for two years, it has required nothing and up until recently has been running the stage 1 bluefin software for the last 24,000 miles. It's now on the stage 2 software and has done a total of 26,800 miles and still looks and feels like the day it was delivered.