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General => Random Chat => Topic started by: VC on March 26, 2012, 11:41:23 am
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HOLY COW!!
THERE'S ANOTHER THREAT OF A FUEL STRIKE COMING!!
QUICK...GO AND BUY SOME FUEL....QUICK QUICK!!
IF YOU DONT HURRY AND LEAVE RIGHT THIS SECOND THERE WILL BE NONE LEFT BY THE TIME YOU GET THERE!!
EVERYONE ELSE HAS ALREADY GONE TO FILL UP...
ITS JUST YOU THAT HASN'T!!
IF YOU'RE STILL READING THIS YOU MIGHT BE TOO LATE ALREADY!!
QUICK! LEAVE RIGHT NOW!
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I swear this country makes me laugh :fighting2:
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:signLOL: so true! :laugh:
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It's coming tho......
And rightly so.
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:grin:
However i would advise ensuring you have a spare can in the boot. They are planning to strike 4 days on 2 off and 4 days back on again.
All the lads in work with C+E and HAZMAT are all being trained this week and deploying around the country to various sites to drive tankers. However if for some reason they blockade or the tankers can't keep up then they reckon the length of the strikes will empty the pumps at around 95% of the country's fuel stations.
The thing that annoys me is they are not striking because of the fuel price. They are striking over their pay & conditions. Another forum i frequent a blokes father is a Tanker driver for Shell and he takes home £56.5k a year on a standard 14 shifts a month year. :fighting: :fighting:
I understand they need danger pay as they are in effect driving a huge bomb around. But £56k a is rediculous.
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Oh FFS.
How long can V-power stay stored in a jerry can without losing octanes?
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Ah the downside being able to work from home. :rolleye:
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Oh FFS.
How long can V-power stay stored in a jerry can without losing octanes?
Not sure about how fast it loses octanes, i recall reading something that said about a week but could be plucking that from my arse. I have however had full tanks worth of fuel in jerry cans for nearly a month and i never noticed any problems/had any issues with it when i used it.
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...well fortunately neither me or the mrs drive big engined cars.... oh wait... hang on.....
...as you were :grin:
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...well fortunately neither me or the mrs drive big engined cars.... oh wait... hang on.....
...as you were :grin:
Never mind your engine. Where is this new GITD sticker :party: :party:
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...well fortunately neither me or the mrs drive big engined cars.... oh wait... hang on.....
...as you were :grin:
Never mind your engine. Where is this new GITD sticker :party: :party:
A thread will be built after 1pm, then you just have to wait for a mod to move it into the correct area :happy2:
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Why are we waiting till 1pm? :confused:
You can't be busy as your causing widespread panic on here about petrol or something :evilgrin:
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:signLOL:
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Why are we waiting till 1pm? :confused:
You can't be busy as your causing widespread panic on here about petrol or something :evilgrin:
:booty:
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I watched this on Sky earlier and they were quoting a Tanker Driver as saying the Army won't be able to manage it and that the job was much more difficult that it looks. Hmm, ok.
Not sure what planet he was on but these boys drive fcuking big trucks around Afghan etc so I don't think the M6 with a tanker full of V Power will be a cause for concern.
We got the same story when the Fire Strike was on, we managed it. The biggest balls up there was not going into the stations and taking the proper appliances instead of using the retired stuff.
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ive seen that stobart program..... how hard can it be, one articulated fluid truck is just like another? except they wont have to stop every five meters to check for roadside bombs
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I saw that too.
I thought similar to myself. The lads drive UST's (Army fuel truck) with 7000litres of fuel around Afghan so i'm sure they will manage around the UK :grin:
As usual the twonks are now feeling threatend because (as with the fire strikes) the Army will get the job done far cheaper than what they cost.
Cnuts :fighting:
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I saw that too.
I thought similar to myself. The lads drive UST's (Army fuel truck) with 7000litres of fuel around Afghan so i'm sure they will manage around the UK :grin:
As usual the twonks are now feeling threatend because (as with the fire strikes) the Army will get the job done far cheaper than what they cost.
Cnuts :fighting:
HGV drivers get well paid as it is, my ex GF's father was getting 39K per year for an 8 hour day and that was 7 years ago!! and he drives around frozen food!
Pretty sure the army will manage driving around fuel tankers, they do it themselves anyway, only issue they might have is finding the stations, give em all a Tom Tom and they will absolutely fine!
If the blockades were to do with fuel prices I could 100% understand, but wanting a pay increase in a recession when everyone else is getting either redundancy or pay cuts is taking the p155!
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So the fuel strike is about the drivers pay and conditions rather than the fuel prices?
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Well the shell garage near me is closed... not quite sure why. :confused:
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So the fuel strike is about the drivers pay and conditions rather than the fuel prices?
Yup
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17502973
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To be fair, it's difficult to argue with when their employers are making billions in profits. I'm sure everyone here would be the same.
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Read a book called thunder run by a US journalist about the last invasion of Baghdad. When the M1 Abrams were running low the fuel drivers were supplying straight into firefight. In tankers that only had a,50Cal on the roof of the cab for protection. Much respect.
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Read a book called thunder run by a US journalist about the last invasion of Baghdad. When the M1 Abrams were running low the fuel drivers were supplying straight into firefight. In tankers that only had a,50Cal on the roof of the cab for protection. Much respect.
And they think they have it hard over here. :laugh:
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...well mrs cherry is back from tescoburysons with my lunch and there are bigger queues than normal at the pumps already :stupid:
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Love it how on the BBC forum everyone is saying its wrong to use the army for delivering fuel, wonder how many of them are drivers?.
If the army are at home (not on active duty) and still being paid why not use them?, if the HGV Fuel tanker drivers were not so greedy in the middle of a recession it would not be a problem! nor being discussed as an option, plus when the nursing strikes were on did they not just ferry in a load of foreign nurses?, if the gov is held to ransom they don't negotiate they simply work round the problem or replace them!.
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f*ck it there goes my over time/call outs/ get out the workshop for a few hours on a jolly, the A30 in devon is dead as it is, with no fuel around there will be tumble weeds rolling on it,hang on......i wonder if tumble weeds breakdown and are covered by green flag?
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f*ck it there goes my over time/call outs/ get out the workshop for a few hours on a jolly, the A30 in devon is dead as it is, with no fuel around there will be tumble weeds rolling on it,hang on......i wonder if tumble weeds breakdown and are covered by green flag?
dont worry dude, easter is coming and the tourists will all run out of fuel in devon trying to get to me in cornwall :P
..you can have em all :happy2:
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I blame the fecking BBC for a lot of the sh*te that gone on recently. Do they not realise that they perpetuate these problems? :fighting: :fighting:
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f*ck it there goes my over time/call outs/ get out the workshop for a few hours on a jolly, the A30 in devon is dead as it is, with no fuel around there will be tumble weeds rolling on it,hang on......i wonder if tumble weeds breakdown and are covered by green flag?
dont worry dude, easter is coming and the tourists will all run out of fuel in devon trying to get to me in cornwall :P
..you can have em all :happy2:
Im just thinking of the over time :signLOL: didnt know you are in Cornwall, where abouts mate?
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£56k? Poor barstewardss, I wouldn't get out of bed for that, let alone stalk motorway service stops looking for hookers to murder.
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f*ck it there goes my over time/call outs/ get out the workshop for a few hours on a jolly, the A30 in devon is dead as it is, with no fuel around there will be tumble weeds rolling on it,hang on......i wonder if tumble weeds breakdown and are covered by green flag?
dont worry dude, easter is coming and the tourists will all run out of fuel in devon trying to get to me in cornwall :P
..you can have em all :happy2:
Im just thinking of the over time :signLOL: didnt know you are in Cornwall, where abouts mate?
down in penzance buddy, i have to tolerate this view from my house:
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horrible place to live... honest... :grin:
...not my actual view, but near as damn it :innocent:
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^^^ Sickening..... :notworthy:
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yeah the things i have to tolerate eh :laugh:
i'll actually have to walk to the beach if i run out of fuel this week
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VC i feel sorry for you, that view only looks like that 4 days a year, the rest of the time its pissing it down with rain :signLOL:, not far from me, im in Tavistock but work in lifton near Launceston, are you going to the VW show in a couple of weeks? fuel permitting
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yeah the things i have to tolerate eh :laugh:
i'll actually have to walk to the beach if i run out of fuel this week
Life's a bitch eh?
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Oh FFS.
How long can V-power stay stored in a jerry can without losing octanes?
Not sure about how fast it loses octanes, i recall reading something that said about a week but could be plucking that from my arse. I have however had full tanks worth of fuel in jerry cans for nearly a month and i never noticed any problems/had any issues with it when i used it.
....So does that mean that if a car stays in its garage for a fortnight, the V-Power in its tank will deteriorate?
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VC i feel sorry for you, that view only looks like that 4 days a year, the rest of the time its pissing it down with rain :signLOL:, not far from me, im in Tavistock but work in lifton near Launceston, are you going to the VW show in a couple of weeks? fuel permitting
fuel permitting yeah i'll be heading over there, the shows only being held there due to a john o groats lands end mission from some dubbers, but a fuel strike might cause a cancellation :fighting2:
bora hopefully will be in her new outfit and parked in the show n shine daily drivers area :happy2:
...oh and it never rains in cornwall... its just differing levels of mist :laugh: :grin:
i've got a mate in tavistock, runs dubmonkeys aircooled garage :smiley:
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Oh FFS.
How long can V-power stay stored in a jerry can without losing octanes?
Not sure about how fast it loses octanes, i recall reading something that said about a week but could be plucking that from my arse. I have however had full tanks worth of fuel in jerry cans for nearly a month and i never noticed any problems/had any issues with it when i used it.
....So does that mean that if a car stays in its garage for a fortnight, the V-Power in its tank will deteriorate?
...that would mean the storage tanks at fuel stations would deteriorate too, it must last longer than that
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Oh FFS.
How long can V-power stay stored in a jerry can without losing octanes?
Not sure about how fast it loses octanes, i recall reading something that said about a week but could be plucking that from my arse. I have however had full tanks worth of fuel in jerry cans for nearly a month and i never noticed any problems/had any issues with it when i used it.
....So does that mean that if a car stays in its garage for a fortnight, the V-Power in its tank will deteriorate?
...that would mean the storage tanks at fuel stations would deteriorate too, it must last longer than that
....Exactly. That's my point: The fuel isn't going to deteriorate in just a few weeks.
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^^ absolutely robin. No way it will 'go off' that quickly
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f*ck it there goes my over time/call outs/ get out the workshop for a few hours on a jolly, the A30 in devon is dead as it is, with no fuel around there will be tumble weeds rolling on it,hang on......i wonder if tumble weeds breakdown and are covered by green flag?
dont worry dude, easter is coming and the tourists will all run out of fuel in devon trying to get to me in cornwall :P
..you can have em all :happy2:
Just to compound your issues my parents are heading for their house in Cornwall (St.Ives) on saturday and staying for 3 months :P
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Oh FFS.
How long can V-power stay stored in a jerry can without losing octanes?
Not sure about how fast it loses octanes, i recall reading something that said about a week but could be plucking that from my arse. I have however had full tanks worth of fuel in jerry cans for nearly a month and i never noticed any problems/had any issues with it when i used it.
....So does that mean that if a car stays in its garage for a fortnight, the V-Power in its tank will deteriorate?
...that would mean the storage tanks at fuel stations would deteriorate too, it must last longer than that
....Exactly. That's my point: The fuel isn't going to deteriorate in just a few weeks.
I did say i could be plucking it out of my arse. Don''t forget though the storage tanks in fuel stations etc are purpose built for that job. Jerry Cans etc aren't designed to store fuel long term.
I did also say i had kept some for nearly a month and never had any adverse effects from it in my car.
So :P :booty: :P :booty:
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I did say i could be plucking it out of my arse. Don''t forget though the storage tanks in fuel stations etc are purpose built for that job. Jerry Cans etc aren't designed to store fuel long term.
I did also say i had kept some for nearly a month and never had any adverse effects from it in my car.
So :P :booty: :P :booty:
....I know you did, Carl - I wasn't challenging your wisdom on this :happy2: - I think you are right in that proper fuel tanks, as opposed to jerry cans, are more designed and built for purpose but that jerry cans will still do the job even if more limited.
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VC i feel sorry for you, that view only looks like that 4 days a year, the rest of the time its pissing it down with rain :signLOL:, not far from me, im in Tavistock but work in lifton near Launceston, are you going to the VW show in a couple of weeks? fuel permitting
fuel permitting yeah i'll be heading over there, the shows only being held there due to a john o groats lands end mission from some dubbers, but a fuel strike might cause a cancellation :fighting2:
bora hopefully will be in her new outfit and parked in the show n shine daily drivers area :happy2:
...oh and it never rains in cornwall... its just differing levels of mist :laugh: :grin:
i've got a mate in tavistock, runs dubmonkeys aircooled garage :smiley:
Dubmonkeys is near me, i did hear it had changed hands/closed recently, may be wrong tho
show and shine, will have to give that a miss, will have the OH and kids so my car will look a mess by the time i get to the middle of Tavy :signLOL: will come and find you for a chat tho :happy2:
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VC i feel sorry for you, that view only looks like that 4 days a year, the rest of the time its pissing it down with rain :signLOL:, not far from me, im in Tavistock but work in lifton near Launceston, are you going to the VW show in a couple of weeks? fuel permitting
fuel permitting yeah i'll be heading over there, the shows only being held there due to a john o groats lands end mission from some dubbers, but a fuel strike might cause a cancellation :fighting2:
bora hopefully will be in her new outfit and parked in the show n shine daily drivers area :happy2:
...oh and it never rains in cornwall... its just differing levels of mist :laugh: :grin:
i've got a mate in tavistock, runs dubmonkeys aircooled garage :smiley:
Dubmonkeys is near me, i did hear it had changed hands/closed recently, may be wrong tho
show and shine, will have to give that a miss, will have the OH and kids so my car will look a mess by the time i get to the middle of Tavy :signLOL: will come and find you for a chat tho :happy2:
tbh ive not spoken to him in ages, i know there were a few political issues surrounding the business - but yeah action, come hunt me down :happy2:
mrs + kids is no excuse, mine will be there too :laugh:
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I watched this on Sky earlier and they were quoting a Tanker Driver as saying the Army won't be able to manage it and that the job was much more difficult that it looks. Hmm, ok.
Not sure what planet he was on but these boys drive fcuking big trucks around Afghan etc so I don't think the M6 with a tanker full of V Power will be a cause for concern.
We got the same story when the Fire Strike was on, we managed it. The biggest balls up there was not going into the stations and taking the proper appliances instead of using the retired stuff.
Tearing around Afghanistan in a truck is nothing like driving a fully loaded tanker on a motorway or anywhere else for that matter, will handle totally differently, whatever they carry around Afghanistan in a truck is not gonna move around like 000's of litres of petrol. Everything has to be done so much earlier driving a tanker, when you brake the liquid will be sloshing about and pushing you forward making braking very hard.
It really isn't as easy as you think
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So the fuel strike is about the drivers pay and conditions rather than the fuel prices?
Yup
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17502973
Think you need to check out the facts on why they are striking, it's not to do with pay at all, it's to do with how their conditions are being changed for the worse, I doubt anybody would be happy with their working conditions being changed at the drop of a hat and told to get on with it. These drivers have paid a fortune to qualify to drive these fuel tankers so have a right to protect their income. To use the army to do their jobs is nothing short of scandalous, the government brought the idea of using the army to drive tankers I case of fuel blockades like back in the early 2000's, not to break a legal strike. Does anyone honestly think the army would want to be put in that position, I certainly don't think they do.
I need my car to get to work, I can't use public transport as i start very early AM. I also work as a hgv driver, so need roughly £400 of diesel a day, if there is no fuel I won't be able to work, no work = no pay, but these guys are protecting their jobs and income, so they will have my respect for that
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So the fuel strike is about the drivers pay and conditions rather than the fuel prices?
Yup
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17502973
Think you need to check out the facts on why they are striking, it's not to do with pay at all, it's to do with how their conditions are being changed for the worse, I doubt anybody would be happy with their working conditions being changed at the drop of a hat and told to get on with it. These drivers have paid a fortune to qualify to drive these fuel tankers so have a right to protect their income. To use the army to do their jobs is nothing short of scandalous, the government brought the idea of using the army to drive tankers I case of fuel blockades like back in the early 2000's, not to break a legal strike. Does anyone honestly think the army would want to be put in that position, I certainly don't think they do.
I need my car to get to work, I can't use public transport as i start very early AM. I also work as a hgv driver, so need roughly £400 of diesel a day, if there is no fuel I won't be able to work, no work = no pay, but these guys are protecting their jobs and income, so they will have my respect for that
It was on the radio this morning they were striking for pay too.
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I watched this on Sky earlier and they were quoting a Tanker Driver as saying the Army won't be able to manage it and that the job was much more difficult that it looks. Hmm, ok.
Not sure what planet he was on but these boys drive fcuking big trucks around Afghan etc so I don't think the M6 with a tanker full of V Power will be a cause for concern.
We got the same story when the Fire Strike was on, we managed it. The biggest balls up there was not going into the stations and taking the proper appliances instead of using the retired stuff.
Tearing around Afghanistan in a truck is nothing like driving a fully loaded tanker on a motorway or anywhere else for that matter, will handle totally differently, whatever they carry around Afghanistan in a truck is not gonna move around like 000's of litres of petrol. Everything has to be done so much earlier driving a tanker, when you brake the liquid will be sloshing about and pushing you forward making braking very hard.
It really isn't as easy as you think
You need to check your facts too!!
The Army have 20,000litre fuel trucks that they use on the big convoys to resupply the bases i since found out today. They have smaller one's that i mentioned earlier (7000ltrs) for shorter more localised journeys. So i think they will find driving a truck on a motorway a damn sight easier than driving 22k litre trucks around rutted tracks and desert, whilst getting out all the time to check for roadside bombs!!
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This is what they drive around Afghanistan
http://stroicar.com/eng/equip.php?ID=450
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In Afghanistan
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I watched this on Sky earlier and they were quoting a Tanker Driver as saying the Army won't be able to manage it and that the job was much more difficult that it looks. Hmm, ok.
Not sure what planet he was on but these boys drive fcuking big trucks around Afghan etc so I don't think the M6 with a tanker full of V Power will be a cause for concern.
We got the same story when the Fire Strike was on, we managed it. The biggest balls up there was not going into the stations and taking the proper appliances instead of using the retired stuff.
Tearing around Afghanistan in a truck is nothing like driving a fully loaded tanker on a motorway or anywhere else for that matter, will handle totally differently, whatever they carry around Afghanistan in a truck is not gonna move around like 000's of litres of petrol. Everything has to be done so much earlier driving a tanker, when you brake the liquid will be sloshing about and pushing you forward making braking very hard.
It really isn't as easy as you think
15 - 20k liter shkosh. Same principles pal and driving on routes littred with legacy mines and improvised explosives make it a little tricky! Then do it across the desert at night on undulating terrain in the dust following a poxy convoy light of the chap in front. :stupid:
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Now come on Mike,
Even though we have both pointed that out it is no where near as dangerous or difficult as driving a tanker around the UK on smooth (by comparison) tarmac roads, following your Tom Tom or road signs, Whilst listening to radio 2, stopping at a service station every 4 hours, phoning the misses on your breaks and getting paid triple or higher what the drivers in Afghan get paid :grin:
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Was just sick a little bit in my mouth thinking about it. :sick:
Drivers hours? What's that? lol
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So the fuel strike is about the drivers pay and conditions rather than the fuel prices?
Yup
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17502973
Think you need to check out the facts on why they are striking, it's not to do with pay at all, it's to do with how their conditions are being changed for the worse, I doubt anybody would be happy with their working conditions being changed at the drop of a hat and told to get on with it. These drivers have paid a fortune to qualify to drive these fuel tankers so have a right to protect their income. To use the army to do their jobs is nothing short of scandalous, the government brought the idea of using the army to drive tankers I case of fuel blockades like back in the early 2000's, not to break a legal strike. Does anyone honestly think the army would want to be put in that position, I certainly don't think they do.
I need my car to get to work, I can't use public transport as i start very early AM. I also work as a hgv driver, so need roughly £400 of diesel a day, if there is no fuel I won't be able to work, no work = no pay, but these guys are protecting their jobs and income, so they will have my respect for that
Ah ha, knew i wasn't dreaming it they ARE striking over pay!!!! :P
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/9167821/Petrol-pumps-could-run-dry-as-tanker-drivers-vote-for-industrial-action.html
While their main concerns are pay and conditions, which are matters for their employers, they have also raised health and safety. We take health and safety very seriously and will be looking carefully at what Unite is saying.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/25/army-standby-petrol-tanker-strike?newsfeed=true
According to union officials, fracturing the industry into a patchwork of smaller suppliers is leading to a lowering of standards and pay. Because fuel and truck costs cannot be lowered easily, Unite claims that haulage firms are targeting staff and training costs instead. As a consequence, hauliers are seeking a minimum wage rate and an agreed set of pan-industry standards.
Do i need to carry on? If they aren't about pay then i don't know what is
:booty: :booty: :evilgrin:
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Where does it say in that article it's about pay?? It mentions what they are paid, which has very little to do with the issue, their salary is only being used to turn public support against them.
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Where does it say in that article it's about pay?? It mentions what they are paid, which has very little to do with the issue, their salary is only being used to turn public support against them.
Are you blind :confused:
Here a little help for you.
While their main concerns are pay and conditions, which are matters for their employers, they have also raised health and safety. We take health and safety very seriously and will be looking carefully at what Unite is saying.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/25/army-standby-petrol-tanker-strike?newsfeed=true
According to union officials, fracturing the industry into a patchwork of smaller suppliers is leading to a lowering of standards and pay. Because fuel and truck costs cannot be lowered easily, Unite claims that haulage firms are targeting staff and training costs instead. As a consequence, hauliers are seeking a minimum wage rate and an agreed set of pan-industry standards.
Does that help :grin:
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Where does it say in that article it's about pay?? It mentions what they are paid, which has very little to do with the issue, their salary is only being used to turn public support against them.
Are you blind :confused:
Here a little help for you.
While their main concerns are pay and conditions, which are matters for their employers, they have also raised health and safety. We take health and safety very seriously and will be looking carefully at what Unite is saying.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/25/army-standby-petrol-tanker-strike?newsfeed=true
According to union officials, fracturing the industry into a patchwork of smaller suppliers is leading to a lowering of standards and pay. Because fuel and truck costs cannot be lowered easily, Unite claims that haulage firms are targeting staff and training costs instead. As a consequence, hauliers are seeking a minimum wage rate and an agreed set of pan-industry standards.
Does that help :grin:
Gotta go and get changed, think i laughed so much i wet myself :grin: :notworthy: :notworthy:
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Wasn't just me then :ashamed:
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Where does it say in that article it's about pay?? It mentions what they are paid, which has very little to do with the issue, their salary is only being used to turn public support against them.
Are you blind :confused:
Here a little help for you.
While their main concerns are pay and conditions, which are matters for their employers, they have also raised health and safety. We take health and safety very seriously and will be looking carefully at what Unite is saying.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/25/army-standby-petrol-tanker-strike?newsfeed=true
According to union officials, fracturing the industry into a patchwork of smaller suppliers is leading to a lowering of standards and pay. Because fuel and truck costs cannot be lowered easily, Unite claims that haulage firms are targeting staff and training costs instead. As a consequence, hauliers are seeking a minimum wage rate and an agreed set of pan-industry standards.
Does that help :grin:
No, not particularly, you carry on and believe what some government mouth piece has to say on the issue, the government will say anything to turn the the general public against this strike even more than they already are. The hoyer spokesman and the union guy did not mention it was about a pay rise for their current terms and conditions, they want more work out of them for the same pay, is that something any of you would happily do in your current jobs????
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Where does it say in that article it's about pay?? It mentions what they are paid, which has very little to do with the issue, their salary is only being used to turn public support against them.
Are you blind :confused:
Here a little help for you.
While their main concerns are pay and conditions, which are matters for their employers, they have also raised health and safety. We take health and safety very seriously and will be looking carefully at what Unite is saying.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/25/army-standby-petrol-tanker-strike?newsfeed=true
According to union officials, fracturing the industry into a patchwork of smaller suppliers is leading to a lowering of standards and pay. Because fuel and truck costs cannot be lowered easily, Unite claims that haulage firms are targeting staff and training costs instead. As a consequence, hauliers are seeking a minimum wage rate and an agreed set of pan-industry standards.
Does that help :grin:
Gotta go and get changed, think i laughed so much i wet myself :grin: :notworthy: :notworthy:
And as for your sarky and sarcastic response, I said where did it say it was about pay in that article, ARTICLE, I said article as I only seen one link which was the telegraph one
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Why should'nt the gov try to turn the publics eye when all they want is more pay (they well paid already), plus fuel does not "slosh around" as much as you may think, the tankers are segmented and baffled to reduce this issue, driving a tanker filled with fuel is no different to how a tanker full of milk would be driven the only things different are how its handled either end and loaded/unloaded.
If they try to strike, let em strike and let the Army drive instead, might make em think about striking for more pay when others are losing jobs and not had pay increase for last 4 years!!
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It mentions pay and conditions in the Telegraph Article.
Oh and i quite often get told to do more and more without extra pay. I'm in the forces and it goes with the territory :P
I never said i believed everything from "the government mouthpiece" as you put it. But as with anything i can only go by what is broadcast on the news, as can you unless you happen to be a tanker driver or a member of Unite. :booty:
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Whatever the rights or wrongs of this imminent dispute/strike, I think that ANY guvn'ment of ANY political persuasion is absolutely right to bring in other skilled drivers (in this case The Army) because it's important to keep the whole country and economy going in spite of those who would disrupt everyone else by striking.
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Whatever the rights or wrongs of this imminent dispute/strike, I think that ANY guvn'ment of ANY political persuasion is absolutely right to bring in other skilled drivers (in this case The Army) because it's important to keep the whole country and economy going in spite of those who would disrupt everyone else by striking.
:congrats:
They have done it before and will do it again if its to protect both the working public and the economy.
To me it just smacks of greed, if they wish to pay for my training im happy to take over someones 56K+ job for only 40K a year :P
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I've just had a thought of sheer genius proportions.
I can get the lads to divert a tanker of V-Power to my house :evilgrin:
I wonder if i could get through it before the strike ends :grin: :grin:
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No momentum left at Tesco don't think there's much in the tank of the Cupra down in Bedford but the lupo is brimmed & I have 25L of vpower from yesterday. (not panic buying, was fulfilling my vpower bonus quota but the lupo tank is tiny lol)
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it will not be a problem because people in this country are totally spineless, are only interested in going shopping and will not support the strike. :congrats:
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it will not be a problem because people in this country are totally spineless, are only interested in going shopping and will not support the strike. :congrats:
....I prefer the term "comfortably numb":
^ Dave Gilmore's solo guitar work at its very best! :notworthy:
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Where does it say in that article it's about pay?? It mentions what they are paid, which has very little to do with the issue, their salary is only being used to turn public support against them.
Are you blind :confused:
Here a little help for you.
While their main concerns are pay and conditions, which are matters for their employers, they have also raised health and safety. We take health and safety very seriously and will be looking carefully at what Unite is saying.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/25/army-standby-petrol-tanker-strike?newsfeed=true
According to union officials, fracturing the industry into a patchwork of smaller suppliers is leading to a lowering of standards and pay. Because fuel and truck costs cannot be lowered easily, Unite claims that haulage firms are targeting staff and training costs instead. As a consequence, hauliers are seeking a minimum wage rate and an agreed set of pan-industry standards.
Does that help :grin:
No, not particularly, you carry on and believe what some government mouth piece has to say on the issue, the government will say anything to turn the the general public against this strike even more than they already are. The hoyer spokesman and the union guy did not mention it was about a pay rise for their current terms and conditions, they want more work out of them for the same pay, is that something any of you would happily do in your current jobs????
Calm down, the lack of petrol at the pumps will have a massive effect on my income aswell, im a mechanic and also a recovery driver, the A30 into cornwall is dead atm, no cars=no breakdowns, which means less income for me as we approch one of the best weekends to be on call
P.S you gotta admit you walked right into the replies :grin:
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I watched this on Sky earlier and they were quoting a Tanker Driver as saying the Army won't be able to manage it and that the job was much more difficult that it looks. Hmm, ok.
Not sure what planet he was on but these boys drive fcuking big trucks around Afghan etc so I don't think the M6 with a tanker full of V Power will be a cause for concern.
We got the same story when the Fire Strike was on, we managed it. The biggest balls up there was not going into the stations and taking the proper appliances instead of using the retired stuff.
It really isn't as easy as you think
As an LGV licence holder myself I do have some experience, not to mention driving a fully loaded Green Goddess during the Fireman's strike.
They are bleating crap about safety etc. The rules are quite simple, the vehicles must meet the standards required to transport hazardous goods, the driver must hold an LGV Licence and ADR Licence (The Carriage of Dangerous Goods by Road) and of course comply with the current Tachograph regulations.
It's probably one of the most heavily regulated areas of road transport.
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it will not be a problem because people in this country are totally spineless, are only interested in going shopping and will not support the strike. :congrats:
Shopping and drawing wrong conclusions without the relevant facts. Because there is a recession people automatically assume the strikers are being greedy and trying to gain more money, when intact a lot of companies and using the recession as an excuse to lower wages and worsen conditions. The same was tried at a company i worked at, 5 of us left as its a matter of principle, some can work for them sort of companies, I can't.
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Where does it say in that article it's about pay?? It mentions what they are paid, which has very little to do with the issue, their salary is only being used to turn public support against them.
Are you blind :confused:
Here a little help for you.
While their main concerns are pay and conditions, which are matters for their employers, they have also raised health and safety. We take health and safety very seriously and will be looking carefully at what Unite is saying.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/mar/25/army-standby-petrol-tanker-strike?newsfeed=true
According to union officials, fracturing the industry into a patchwork of smaller suppliers is leading to a lowering of standards and pay. Because fuel and truck costs cannot be lowered easily, Unite claims that haulage firms are targeting staff and training costs instead. As a consequence, hauliers are seeking a minimum wage rate and an agreed set of pan-industry standards.
Does that help :grin:
No, not particularly, you carry on and believe what some government mouth piece has to say on the issue, the government will say anything to turn the the general public against this strike even more than they already are. The hoyer spokesman and the union guy did not mention it was about a pay rise for their current terms and conditions, they want more work out of them for the same pay, is that something any of you would happily do in your current jobs????
Calm down, the lack of petrol at the pumps will have a massive effect on my income aswell, im a mechanic and also a recovery driver, the A30 into cornwall is dead atm, no cars=no breakdowns, which means less income for me as we approch one of the best weekends to be on call
P.S you gotta admit you walked right into the replies :grin:
I am calm mate, yeah I walked into the replies, no doubt about that, but my point was that both side had commented in the article (telegraph)about safe working practices etc
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it will not be a problem because people in this country are totally spineless, are only interested in going shopping and will not support the strike. :congrats:
Shopping and drawing wrong conclusions without the relevant facts. Because there is a recession people automatically assume the strikers are being greedy and trying to gain more money, when intact a lot of companies and using the recession as an excuse to lower wages and worsen conditions. The same was tried at a company i worked at, 5 of us left as its a matter of principle, some can work for them sort of companies, I can't.
Whilst I somewhat agree with your comments I'm always drawn to liken it to those who will probably keep the country running this time as they have done before but also stand on the front line - For a lot less than your average fuel tanker driver and for a lot more than 37 hours week. Also with what remains of a 3 year no wage increase kindly donated by the Government.
Don't get me wrong I fully support the theory of make your choice, you take your chances but really?? In hard times greed doesn't help anyone.
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I am calm mate, yeah I walked into the replies, no doubt about that, but my point was that both side had commented in the article (telegraph)about safe working practices etc
You said they weren't striking about Pay when they were. That's why i was sarcastic :P
Half the problem with this country is that people are too unwilling to just do a little bit extra. I fully accept that the line has to be drawn somewhere but striking and potentially bringing the country to it's knee's isn't the answer IMHO
A recent week long strike over fuel cost Nigeria $1.2bn in lost revenue. Imagine what will happen to the UK economy if the country is halted due to a fuel shortage. They reckon the royal wedding cost the country an estimated £620m - £1bn and that was just for a 4 day bank holiday where a lot of people still worked.
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I am reminded of the expression:
"I don't want much... I just want a lot of it!"
I think it's time for me to have another listen to Pink Floyd's 'Comfortably Numb'.
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it will not be a problem because people in this country are totally spineless, are only interested in going shopping and will not support the strike. :congrats:
Shopping and drawing wrong conclusions without the relevant facts. Because there is a recession people automatically assume the strikers are being greedy and trying to gain more money, when intact a lot of companies and using the recession as an excuse to lower wages and worsen conditions. The same was tried at a company i worked at, 5 of us left as its a matter of principle, some can work for them sort of companies, I can't.
Whilst I somewhat agree with your comments I'm always drawn to liken it to those who will probably keep the country running this time as they have done before but also stand on the front line - For a lot less than your average fuel tanker driver and for a lot more than 37 hours week. Also with what remains of a 3 year no wage increase kindly donated by the Government.
Don't get me wrong I fully support the theory of make your choice, you take your chances but really?? In hard times greed doesn't help anyone.
I total respect for the army and the job they do, if anyone should be striking for more money it's them, but I really don't agree with them being put into the position of crossing a picket line of a legal strike. I don't think you would see this in any other western country. London grinds to a halt due to underground tube strikes, the government doesnt step in like they are here, I know they couldn't bring the army in to drive tube trains but surely you see where I am coming from.
Fuel is a product that everyone needs and is a vital ingredient to keep the economy going, this will make it hard for people to understand and agree with the tanker drivers striking, but it is more about H&S issues and working practices than it is to do with pay, pay has been brought into it as more work is expected for the same pay, some may say that's fair in the current climate, others may not.
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So, would you take a £10k pay cut to get the H&S standards you all want?
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So, would you take a £10k pay cut to get the H&S standards you all want?
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Why should anybody have to take a 10k pay cut to be safer in their work??
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Why not? Maybe £10k is extreme - but let's say it costs money and that money has to be found from somewhere, do you all take a cut to pay for what you want?
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The amount of
bullsh*t H&S our drivers have to go through to drive our fuel trucks on the road etc i can't see how it needs to be any safer. But i don't know all the laws etc so can't say for certain how rigorous it is. I know it takes them an age to do all their checks & paperwork though and god help them if they have the slightest detail wrong!
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The amount of bullsh*t H&S our drivers have to go through to drive our fuel trucks on the road etc i can't see how it needs to be any safer. But i don't know all the laws etc so can't say for certain how rigorous it is. I know it takes them an age to do all their checks & paperwork though and god help them if they have the slightest detail wrong!
same as old type tachos iirc there are 27 ways to get in the sh*t just filling it out :stupid:
I only drive our flat beds at work and the paper work is untrue, dont get me wrong i love driving the lorries but hate having to do the paper work :indifferent:
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Aren't most Civilian logistic firms on digital tachos now?
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I wonder if they realise they don't actually have to do this for a living?
It's not conscription or forced labour.
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Aren't most Civilian logistic firms on digital tachos now?
Depends if they have updated the lorries with new ones, we have 2 left, a 3.5 ton MANN and an iveco Spec still on paper, ive just got my tacho card so im now up to date
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I wonder if they realise they don't actually have to do this for a living?
It's not conscription or forced labour.
.... :signLOL: :congrats: - They clearly don't think that way. Not open-minded enough and think the world owes them a living I expect.
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Aren't most Civilian logistic firms on digital tachos now?
Depends if they have updated the lorries with new ones, we have 2 left, a 3.5 ton MANN and an iveco Spec still on paper, ive just got my tacho card so im now up to date
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Just gone out and bought 3 black honda civic coupes, with tints and neons... who's with me? :driver:
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Yeah why not, we wouldnt get catch as the cop cars have no fuel to chase us :driver:
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Just gone out and bought 3 black honda civic coupes, with tints and neons... who's with me? :driver:
:grin: :grin:
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Im a petroleum fitter and get to work at a very large fuel depot :smiley:
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Im a petroleum fitter and get to work at a very large fuel depot :smiley:
right lets cut you in on the deal then :wink:
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Unite who represent 2000 drivers who account for 90% of those supplying petrol to uk forecourts have now voted to go on strike.
Some 61.1% voted to press ahead with the walkout in the ballot.
Unite has warned that it could bring chaos to the country's forecourts within 48 hours of any action going ahead.
The government has vowed to keep fuel supplies flowing and ministers say they will use emergency powers to bring in the army.
Source: sky news
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Trade Unions - crushing British industry for decades.
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Not impressed. On way to work had to fill up with V-Power and at 6.30 this morning the Shell garage was busy as hell. They will be out by lunch time I imagine, everyone will head to another service station, then another, then PANIC. I blame the press/media for scare mongering. All because the drivers want more money, be grateful you have a f**king job! Sorry.
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i wont quote my first post :grin:
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Im a petroleum fitter and get to work at a very large fuel depot :smiley:
right lets cut you in on the deal then :wink:
I work for one of the large oil companies - can I be in your gang?? :evilgrin:
(Although they have just sold our forecourt business!!)
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I've just filled up today and no panic in Amesbury yet :grin:
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No V-Power at my local Shell last night so I couldn't fill my 20 litre Jerry Can. :scared:
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PANIC!!!
:signLOL: :signLOL:
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PANIC!!!
:signLOL: :signLOL:
Your only too right VC, just had to fill up as the car was running on fumes, nearly every Shell Station in and around Telford has no Diesel.... :jumping: One of the stations has no fuel at all, however a quick detour out into the sticks the Shell station on my way to work still had some. :smiley: So sorted, but didn't to put too much in as the car goes early next week... :innocent: Oh and I finally met my V Power points token... :notworthy:
As Asda they are queueing 4 deep...utter madness...is Armageddon coming? :signLOL:
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ello chip chops me old china :love:
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I got some Diseasal from my local Shell last night and they were nearly dry. Only one pump with V-Power Diseasal and one with V-Power Petrol.
Staff were saying it'd been manic.
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ello chip chops me old china :love:
Hello Matey...see what you have started now ...PANIC BUYING... :laugh:
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ello chip chops me old china :love:
Hello Matey...see what you have started now ...PANIC BUYING... :laugh:
:signLOL: :signLOL:
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what with the hose pipe ban and no fuel everyone is going to be stuck at home with dirty cars :grin:
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At least there's porn. Oh wait if your not allowed to get your hose out........ :sad1:
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At least there's porn. Oh wait if your not allowed to get your hose out........ :sad1:
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ROFL Copter :signLOL:
MILF Copter?
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...dont encourage him to get his chopper out :grin:
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Well i must admit i did Panic buy 40L worth of V-Power today but i do have extenuating circumstances :P
However if there does happen to be a nationwide lack of fuel i will be selling it at £5p/l or £4p/l to forum members. :grin:
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Well my local tescoburysons is 6 cars deep and there's a barrier to force single file entry... Got a full tank in the disco so wafted by happily :smiley:
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Well my local tescoburysons is 6 cars deep and there's a barrier to force single file entry... Got a full tank in the disco so wafted by happily :smiley:
No Panic in Norfolk, just drove past tess-coos and no one at the filling station, either news travel slow to norfolk or no one gives a hoot :happy2:
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we do have a bucket load of tourists down here though..
coming down ere... stealin our wimmin... eatin our pasties.... drinking our petrul :laugh:
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we do have a bucket load of tourists down here though..
coming down ere... stealin our wimmin... eatin our pasties.... drinking our petrul :laugh:
Aye thats true, I know whats its like mate, I live in norfolk where all the Cock-er-neys have summer houses (or they sell their 2 bed flat in london and retire here), I said the other day my Ma N Pa are heading down to Cornwall Pastieland to their house on saturday for 3.5 months so im sure they will be drinking ur Diseasal and eatin your pasties, no stealin wimmen tho, they leave that to me when I visit :happy2:
They live there from end of march to 7th July at which point they leave as the "Tourists" and kids annoy them :grin:, soon as the kids go back to school they head back there for another couple of months :happy2:
My Mum grew up in Hayle so has happy childhood memories down there :smiley:
If you see a Silver XC90 with a private plate and towbar on it (Boat) it could well be my folks :drinking:
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Im gonna go fill up later... need to make sure I've got enough to get to work on saturday and brands hatch on sunday. :driver:
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Liz went to fill this morning, as she was on red - no diesel at the station, but the manager noticed Issy in the back, guided her round to the HGV pumps and brimmed it for her.
I've filled mine.
I really resented having to do it, as I'm just making the situation worse given I don't really need to use the car - but what can you do? I live in a rural village and have a 4 month old child. You can't take risks.
I hope these strikes fall on their arse, tossers.
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Liz went to fill this morning, as she was on red - no diesel at the station, but the manager noticed Issy in the back, guided her round to the HGV pumps and brimmed it for her.
I've filled mine.
I really resented having to do it, as I'm just making the situation worse given I don't really need to use the car - but what can you do? I live in a rural village and have a 4 month old child. You can't take risks.
I hope these strikes fall on their arse, tossers. selfish cnuts
Corrected, very sensible of of the manager :congrats:
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Im gonna go fill up later... need to make sure I've got enough to get to work on saturday and brands hatch on sunday. :driver:
I am fillin up tomorrow so I can get to Snetterton on sunday (106 mile round trip), going to see my mate and and his wife who are are there for testing for the Ducati 848 challenge series (My mate Ben is the Mechanic for Robbie/Ducati Manchester) so should be good to have a watch.
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Next thing will be rationing of fuel and V-power will (within days) be £1.60 a litre. Good job i bought a bike last year, may need it. Oh happy days! I say sake all the w**kers who go on strike and give their jobs to some of the 3 Million unemployed peeps, sure they would do the job for an average wage and be more than happy to do so. Oh and without the "aid" of the cancer in British industry, the Unions.
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Well that's done it... :laugh:
http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news/fuel_strike_acas_wades_in_to_driver_row
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Well that's done it... :laugh:
http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news/fuel_strike_acas_wades_in_to_driver_row
All this panic buying is certainly going to help BP/Shell etc etc 1st quarter statements, BPN bosses will be getting some big bonuses next month :evilgrin:
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I think Shell bought 60% of our forecourt business and the rest went to a Venture Capitalist - Gerald Ronson.
Looking at the current North Sea debacle I think we could do with some extra revenue :evilgrin:
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It's getting daft I've got 400 mile trip Friday to get my new car so went to Morrisons about 30 cars deep went to local station straight in no probs. Then 2 people squaring up outside over who's next. Bear in mind station is next to empty and there is no strike on. Idiots :laugh: the government love to play with fear in people fill jerry cans no don't make this national news then there is no issue until action.
Now I'm worried again shall I call garage to ask them to fill new car up with vpower :wink:
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am i being daft, but the dates for this strike havent been confirmed yet... and people are panic buying, could be another week yet before the strike starts!.. tanks will be empty again by then!
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OH filled hers up today, as she does every wednesday, and was told they will have ran out by mid morning tomorrow :surprised: next load is due in on friday afternoon
What f*cks me off most is the wankers filling there cars are the ones who WALK to work or f*cking retired and dont need to go out anyway, total joke
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the british public love a good excuse to panic though, we love a good drama in this country...
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Well provided we have something to worry or panic about then anything else the government are shafting us with will just go unnoticed. :wink:
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There had better be fuel at Blakelands Shell on Friday evening :fighting:
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Just want to point something out before people think i'm being a tw*t/c0ck/w@nker or whatever else (although i probably am all of the afore mentioned :grin:)
The reason i have got spare fuel is because my wife is currently nearly 36 weeks pregnant. We are on holiday for the next 2 weeks and we are planning on going out for days so that she is not cooked up at home. What i don't want to happen is for her to go into labour and be stuck somewhere with no fuel because all the stations are empty or rammed 36 deep, then have to rely on the emergency services to get her to hospital when they could be needed at a more worthy incident (scrap at a petrol station for example :laugh:).
The baby is also breached at the moment and we now need to go for weekly scans as if it remains that way at 37 weeks they will perform a Caesarian section at 38-39weeks.
Besides i have had to send all my C+E and ADR/Hazmat drivers away to be trained how to use the fuel tankers to cover the strike so i think people can make an exception in my case. :drinking:
If not........................
Blow me :P :booty:
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No excuse Carl :P
Only kidding, best of luck. Hope everything goes smoothly How's Mrs VRS finding the heat? :scared:
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Complaining................
But that's nothing new :grin:
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Just want to point something out before people think i'm being a tw*t/c0ck/w@nker or whatever else (although i probably am all of the afore mentioned :grin:)
The reason i have got spare fuel is because my wife is currently nearly 36 weeks pregnant. We are on holiday for the next 2 weeks and we are planning on going out for days so that she is not cooked up at home. What i don't want to happen is for her to go into labour and be stuck somewhere with no fuel because all the stations are empty or rammed 36 deep, then have to rely on the emergency services to get her to hospital when they could be needed at a more worthy incident (scrap at a petrol station for example :laugh:).
The baby is also breached at the moment and we now need to go for weekly scans as if it remains that way at 37 weeks they will perform a Caesarian section at 38-39weeks.
Besides i have had to send all my C+E and ADR/Hazmat drivers away to be trained how to use the fuel tankers to cover the strike so i think people can make an exception in my case. :drinking:
If not........................
Blow me :P :booty:
no one is going to judge you for having fuel surely?
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...best wishes with the breach btw buddy :surprised: :love:
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It's ok,
If i don't need it and there is a shortage i'm going to burn it live on Sky News just to give the haters something to really hate :evilgrin:
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It's ok,
If i don't need it and there is a shortage i'm going to burn it live on Sky News just to give the haters something to really hate :evilgrin:
make sure you use a hosepipe
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Blow me :P :booty:
I know times are hard and all that but are you sure? :evilgrin:
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It's ok,
If i don't need it and there is a shortage i'm going to burn it live on Sky News just to give the haters something to really hate :evilgrin:
make sure you use a hosepipe
I will hose it onto a pile of 1st Class stamps :happy2:
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It's ok,
If i don't need it and there is a shortage i'm going to burn it live on Sky News just to give the haters something to really hate :evilgrin:
Like the KLF.
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It's ok,
If i don't need it and there is a shortage i'm going to burn it live on Sky News just to give the haters something to really hate :evilgrin:
Like the KLF.
LEGENDS. FACT.
..and they were both ancient and justified....
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It's ok,
If i don't need it and there is a shortage i'm going to burn it live on Sky News just to give the haters something to really hate :evilgrin:
Like the KLF.
LEGENDS. FACT.
..and they were both ancient and justified....
Yes but where the fcuk is Mumu. Google Earth can't find it. :laugh:
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They were also from Mu Mu.
I want to live in a place called Mu Mu. In fact i might name our house Mu Mu House.
Just have to make sure they spell it correctly otherwise if the wife was stood in the window people might get the wrong idea of what it means :grin: :evilgrin:
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Need to add like type button for posts some of these making me laugh.
Good luck with pending arrival my daughter was due when we had all the snow 14 month old now and fuel/snow is last thing you want to worry about.
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Need to add like type button for posts some of these making me laugh.
Good luck with pending arrival my daughter was due when we had all the snow 14 month old now and fuel/snow is last thing you want to worry about.
I'm no Michael Fish but i think i'll be alright for snow :grin:
Got plenty of Phish Food in the freezer though just in case :party: :laugh:
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I've just filled up today and no panic in Amesbury yet :grin:
Not Solstice Services, I hope? Had my bank card cloned there once!
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I waited for 10 minutes in the motorway services ( lots of pumps ) and the guy infront of me put in £11 of diesel. :booty:
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Well provided we have something to worry or panic about then anything else the government are shafting us with will just go unnoticed. :wink:
+1. It's gotta be something very important for it to be smoked screen by fuel.
I popped into the local Shell garage to fill up (on empty). Ten car queue at 11pm and only two of the four pumps were accessible. :stupid:
Normally at this time of night, it's either quiet or full of taxi drivers.
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I've just filled up today and no panic in Amesbury yet :grin:
Not Solstice Services, I hope? Had my bank card cloned there once!
No next one down just before Stonehenge on the big roundabout. It's a Shell garage whereas solstice is Co-Op. :happy2:
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I filled up this morning at tesco. Not particularly busy in Hemel. I need my car to get to work, without my car I earn zero English pfennigs!!
I still maintain its the fault of the media. If they shut there traps none of this would be and issue (also the rescission would have been less severe too)
I cannot believe that it has been advised that people should go and fill there cars up and stock pile in their garages. Are they on crystal meth?
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I've just filled up today and no panic in Amesbury yet :grin:
Not Solstice Services, I hope? Had my bank card cloned there once!
No next one down just before Stonehenge on the big roundabout. It's a Shell garage whereas solstice is Co-Op. :happy2:
I know the one. They make you go back to the roundabout there. :fighting:
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I've just filled up today and no panic in Amesbury yet :grin:
Not Solstice Services, I hope? Had my bank card cloned there once!
No next one down just before Stonehenge on the big roundabout. It's a Shell garage whereas solstice is Co-Op. :happy2:
I know the one. They make you go back to the roundabout there. :fighting:
....And they have now added traffic lights on the roundabout. On the A303, East of Stonehenge, and I think it's called Countess Services.
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That was my point. You wait at the lights, go fill up and wait at the lights again after! I did a naughty and turned right out of there the other day. :laugh:
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I just "panic bounght" £30 of V-Power because I actually have to drive somewhere this wknd
I waited for 10 minutes in the motorway services ( lots of pumps ) and the guy infront of me put in £11 of diesel. :booty:
I thought the minimum amount was more than 2L :signLOL:
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I was getting near empty so went down to the local garage and OMG!!!! No V-Power :sad:
Had to pop to Tesco's and put some Momentum 99 in, so not a happy bunny, but it was cheaper and better than putting 95ron in.
I guess the 75 litres of Methanol will help if I get desperate. I can add 16% methanol into the tank to 95 ron to get 105 ron, but I don't really want to go there!!!
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My car only has fumes in the tank, but as I have no job to go to and no money to fill it it can stay like that!
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Queues everywhere I passed today... :fighting:
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The world is full of idiots. They haven't even announced if and when the strike is going ahead, they have to give 7 days notice if they do and contingency plans are already arranged! :stupid:
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The thing that makes my piss boil is its all the typical people who use bugger all fuel topping up with £5 just to have a full tank, I bet they are lucky to use a tank of fuel in a month. :mad:
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Oh, and is it me or have prices suddenly risen too? :confused:
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The government aren't exactly helping by actively telling people to go out and fill their cars.
It was fine round here yesterday, no queues at all. Today I've driven past two garages with signs saying they have no fuel. Stupid.
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Yeah the queueing started here last night as has got stupid now, dangerous stationary traffic clogging up the main routes in and out of town. But you are right the Government have a lot to answer for it. :mad:
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yeah it started round here yesterday too. today i had to go to 3 garages to try and fill my van up...i just hope theirs some vpower left tomorrow so I can get to pdt on sunday :fighting:
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Momentum 99 is perfectly fine to use in our cars. And cheaper :-)
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It's just been announced that talks won't start until a week Monday, so any strike action (if any!) won't be until after Easter...
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It's just been announced that talks won't start until a week Monday, so any strike action (if any!) won't be until after Easter...
Just need to tell all the muppets that :fighting: :fighting:
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Damn there goes my profit making idea of selling my fuel at £5 a litre.
"This time next year rodney we WON'T be millionaires" :sad1:
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There are stories on the news of stations adding 7 or 8 pence to the price of unleaded!
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There are stories on the news of stations adding 7 or 8 pence to the price of unleaded!
Cnuts :fighting: :fighting:
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There are stories on the news of stations adding 7 or 8 pence to the price of unleaded!
Utter Cnuts...
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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/politics/politics-headlines/government-right-about-fuel-shortage-201203295075/
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The general public are blithering idiots. Some quieter stations can go weeks without a tanker visiting so most people wouldn't even know there was a strike on if you didn't tell them. I appreciate it's different for inner cities and motorway service stations but the same logic still applies
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Im sorry but the MP's that caused this panic buying should be made to step down. That is exactly the opposite of what they should have been saying and exactly what this country doesnt need. It was perfectly fine yesterday and now look every man and his dog is parked up for fuel.
This country is that bad at dealing with things i could only imagine what would happen if a tsunami like what hit japan hit this country. Complete f**king muppets the lot of em!
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i could only imagine what would happen if a tsunami like what hit japan hit this country.
As it would hopefully wash up the Thames and wipe out the Houses of Parliament it might actually does us all a favour :grin:
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There are stories on the news of stations adding 7 or 8 pence to the price of unleaded!
Utter Cnuts...
we brought this all on ourselves ...
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Actually I don't think we brought it on ourselves after all a bunch of tanker drivers said they were going on strike.
The Government in their wisdom told us to panic buy now you have the results of that. :rolleye:
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My car only has fumes in the tank, but as I have no job to go to and no money to fill it it can stay like that!
....Ooops! That doesn't sound too good, Simon. You got some sort of prospect?
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Actually I don't think we brought it on ourselves after all a bunch of tanker drivers said they were going on strike.
The Government in their wisdom told us to panic buy now you have the results of that. :rolleye:
And the government are laughing due to all the extra excise duty due to everyone panic'ing..
Dates have never been announced as to if or when this could actually happen, so there's absolutely no justified Rush just yet.
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Actually I don't think we brought it on ourselves after all a bunch of tanker drivers said they were going on strike.
The Government in their wisdom told us to panic buy now you have the results of that. :rolleye:
And the government are laughing due to all the extra excise duty due to everyone panic'ing..
Dates have never been announced as to if or when this could actually happen, so there's absolutely no justified Rush just yet.
So which part of that did "we" cause?
We are only guilty of reacting to the information presented by the powers that be. They should be hung for a complete lack of common sense and duty of care toward the general public. :stupid:
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Well, I filled up to the brim yesterday and again today after about a 150 mile blast (some of which was with a Golf R which try as it may, couldn't lose me). Queues were short and no shortage of V-Power. A Shell tanker rolled in while I was there today.
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Actually I don't think we brought it on ourselves after all a bunch of tanker drivers said they were going on strike.
The Government in their wisdom told us to panic buy now you have the results of that. :rolleye:
And the government are laughing due to all the extra excise duty due to everyone panic'ing..
Dates have never been announced as to if or when this could actually happen, so there's absolutely no justified Rush just yet.
So which part of that did "we" cause?
We are only guilty of reacting to the information presented by the powers that be. They should be hung for a complete lack of common sense and duty of care toward the general public. :stupid:
since when did the government ever listen to the little old public Ian!!! ?
"We" as in the ones that fell for it going out filling their tanks when actual Dates were not even announced!!.
they could say Milk next, and everyone would clear the shelves next!
Hind sight I guess is a wonderfull thing. but as has always been said, no dates are yet to be confirmed, so that should of stopped most people from fearing the worlds end.
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My car only has fumes in the tank, but as I have no job to go to and no money to fill it it can stay like that!
....Ooops! That doesn't sound too good, Simon. You got some sort of prospect?
Not so far... :sad1: Tis all my own fault, though, so I can't grumble too much.
They've just said on the news that fuel sales have risen by 82% in the last 24 hours. They interviewed a chap who works in a garage and he said they'd sold 3 days worth this morning!
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Folks can't be blamed for looking after their own and their family's interests by making sure they have enough fuel. After me, you're first!
I don't understand why the current govn'ment made announcements encouraging us to stock up. And it's naive to think that we'll only fill up to two-thirds of a tank. I filled up again when I was down to three-quarters after yesterday's driving.
Traffic was exceptionally heavy today so I had to sit it out in D-mode, but at least I got 30 mpg.
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Folks can't be blamed for looking after their own and their family's interests by making sure they have enough fuel. After me, you're first!
I don't understand why the current govn'ment made announcements encouraging us to stock up. And it's naive to think that we'll only fill up to two-thirds of a tank. I filled up again when I was down to three-quarters after yesterday's driving.
Traffic was exceptionally heavy today so I had to sit it out in D-mode, but at least I got 30 mpg.
But why? I can only gather from what i read that you use your car for 90% pleasure, so did you need to brim the tank again? (playing devils advocate of course)
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Well that was close, running on fumes when I got to the garage and some muptard standing on the forecourt telling everyone they can only have £20 worth of go go juice? Got 13.42 litres for that, what f**king good is that. I know I'm adding to the panic but I AM going back out again later to get some more (if they have not run out).
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I was running on fumes today by the time I managed to find a garage with any fuel at all. Only regular unleaded available, so topped up with 2x bottles of octane booster.
Stupid people filling up their cars when they have no need for the fuel. Are the government just trying to increase their tax books before the start of the new tax year? Makes you wonder.
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Folks can't be blamed for looking after their own and their family's interests by making sure they have enough fuel. After me, you're first!
I don't understand why the current govn'ment made announcements encouraging us to stock up. And it's naive to think that we'll only fill up to two-thirds of a tank. I filled up again when I was down to three-quarters after yesterday's driving.
Traffic was exceptionally heavy today so I had to sit it out in D-mode, but at least I got 30 mpg.
But why? I can only gather from what i read that you use your car for 90% pleasure, so did you need to brim the tank again? (playing devils advocate of course)
....Because I need to be able to get to and from JKM next week (180m) and also Nottingham (480m). And because the queues were short and I got waved through for V-Power Petrol.
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well thats my local tesco's empty :chicken:
..no need to fill, but spotted the barriers
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since when did the government ever listen to the little old public Ian!!! ?
"We" as in the ones that fell for it going out filling their tanks when actual Dates were not even announced!!.
they could say Milk next, and everyone would clear the shelves next!
Hind sight I guess is a wonderfull thing. but as has always been said, no dates are yet to be confirmed, so that should of stopped most people from fearing the worlds end.
Ok so how did "We" cause that? "We" are only guilty of reacting to the information given, no more, no less. :confused:
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By over reacting Ian. The shortages and now pump prices going up in some cases to over £1.50, forecourts are now cashing in along with the governments extra £35 million alone in their back pocket from all the overspending today alone. strikes if they are gonna happen are at least another 10 days away. Unless you plan to park your car for the next week, fuelling up today may be wise, but otherwise you've wasted your hard earned and may need to fill up again nxt week.Either way the government have fisted those good and proper by hyping up the possibility of fuel shortages.
The government have made some people panic, others read into it and like me, haven't bought any more then normal.Which in the Hyundai, doesn't ammount much more then you could fit in my breakfast eggcup.
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heard on the radio today cameron has said sorry for telling people to fill up and causing panic, yeah f*cking right hes sorry, just think of all the extra tax they have made from the last 3 day, there all a bunch of ****s, and just to piss me off even more both my RTD and flat bed have just under half a tank left so unless texaco near work get some in tomorrow i wont have any overtime this weekend :sad1:
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The government have made some people panic, others read into it and like me, haven't bought any more then normal.Which in the Hyundai, doesn't ammount much more then you could fit in my breakfast eggcup.
I certainly haven't panicked. I just made sure that if and when the strike does happen I ain't stuck without fuel due to my situation. As I explained earlier. You may also find that others have good reason to ensure they have fuel. Taxi drivers for example need fuel.
Yes I will agree some have panicked. But that is only due to the misinformation of the government and the press. It certainly isn't our fault as the population didn't just wake up yesterday morning and think "fcuk it I'm going to buy as much fuel as possible just in case" :chicken:
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Do you think Nissan Leaf drivers are all going round with smug grins on their faces right now?
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Do you think Nissan Leaf drivers are all going round with smug grins on their faces right now?
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Worst 2 words to use in crisis management - DONT PANIC!!!!!!!! :signLOL:
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So just been out for a nosey... no petrol or diseasal at the Shell garage, limited fuels at the BP garage, and a 100 strong queue at Tescos
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And the government are laughing due to all the extra excise duty due to everyone panic'ing..
along with the governments extra £35 million alone in their back pocket from all the overspending today alone.
People keep saying this but it's bollox.
Over say a 3 month period people will use a certain amount of fuel. If they decide to buy that fuel all in a one month period, the Treasury doesn't earn extra revenue they just get it all at once. People aren't using extra fuel they are simply staying topped up. The only extra potential is only slight from interest gained on having the money in the bank slightly earlier.
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And the government are laughing due to all the extra excise duty due to everyone panic'ing..
along with the governments extra £35 million alone in their back pocket from all the overspending today alone.
People keep saying this but it's bollox.
Over say a 3 month period people will use a certain amount of fuel. If they decide to buy that fuel all in a one month period, the Treasury doesn't earn extra revenue they just get it all at once. People aren't using extra fuel they are simply staying topped up. The only extra potential is only slight from interest gained on having the money in the bank slightly earlier.
which ties in rather nicely with it being the end of the financial year..... It's been a con as far as I'm concerned..
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You da man! :notworthy:
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And the government are laughing due to all the extra excise duty due to everyone panicking..
along with the governments extra £35 million alone in their back pocket from all the overspending today alone.
... The only extra potential is only slight from interest gained on having the money in the bank slightly earlier.
which ties in rather nicely with it being the end of the financial year..... It's been a con as far as I'm concerned..
x2, it's a happy coincidence for the government and all the fuel companies that this little windfall has all taken place just before the tax year closes. Somebody's getting better bonuses next quarter for this and it ain't Joe Public.
p.s. have been running on the red light since Tuesday :scared: so I put half a tank in today. Only V-Power Diseasel left @ 1.539 a litre!!! :scared: :scared: :sad1:
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Love it :congrats:
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Very good! :congrats:
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Just a few more days and all the panicking people will have full tanks and bowlfuls of petrol in their garages leaving the pumps full and free for the next week. I like everybody blaming the government. Since when did anybody take notice of government advice ? Surely if that happened we would all use buses, exercise every day and drink one pint once a week on a Saturday.
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Pete. Exactly. :notworthy:
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Just a few more days and all the panicking people will have full tanks and bowlfuls of petrol in their garages leaving the pumps full and free for the next week. I like everybody blaming the government. Since when did anybody take notice of government advice ? Surely if that happened we would all use buses, exercise every day and drink one pint once a week on a Saturday.
Ha Ha! :signLOL: :congrats:
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Still no queues in Hunstanton, drove past 3 garages yesterday and only 1 car on each forecourt at 2 of them and 2 cars at tescos, no barriers, no queues, no panic in rural norfolk :happy2:
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My father has just told me that Tesco have run out of Diseasal! (Unleaded and Momentum still available and no limits on fuel amount), he had to go to one of the other garages 3 miles away to top up with fuel before their 400 mile drive to house in cornwall, they were limiting cars to £25 of fuel at the fuel station :stupid: so he got his £25 and drove over the other side of the road to the other garage (400yds away) and put another £25 in :happy2:, that will see him down to the land of Very Cherry safely enough :grin:
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It's started -
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16199277
A woman has accidentally set fire to herself after transferring fuel in her home, while the union representing tanker drivers rules out the threat of Easter strikes in the ongoing row over petrol.
The woman, in her 40s, suffered 40% burns and was taken to hospital after petrol ignited in the kitchen of her home in York.
She was attempting to decant the fuel from one container to another using a jug, North Yorkshire Fire and Rescue Service said.
The petrol ignited because she was using her cooker at the time, the fire service added.
Public stupidity at it's best!!
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It's started -
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16199277
A woman has accidentally set fire to herself after transferring fuel in her home, while the union representing tanker drivers rules out the threat of Easter strikes in the ongoing row over petrol.
The woman, in her 40s, suffered 40% burns and was taken to hospital after petrol ignited in the kitchen of her home in York.
She was attempting to decant the fuel from one container to another using a jug, North Yorkshire Fire and Rescue Service said.
The petrol ignited because she was using her cooker at the time, the fire service added.
Public stupidity at it's best!!
Some people really are Oxygen Thieves :stupid:
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tankers are out in force down here...
petrol stations are restocking and reopening :smiley:
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I think it's crazy as we all want fuel to be cheaper but all that happens is people panic for no reason so you end up with the fuel companies having you all by the bollox so they can charge what they want :stupid:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17558294
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17558294
See that's my point :stupid:
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No V Power at my local shell & they don't know when they will have any. Had to drive 9 miles to an Esso for there 97 ron & £1.50.9 a litre.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17558294
See that's my point :stupid:
Yep... total knobs!
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while a threat looms people will still queue, i will still laugh
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VC... can you quickly run off a few hundred stickers which say "I panic bought...... because I am a penis"
Then go around sticker bombing everyone in the queues :happy2:
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VC... can you quickly run off a few hundred stickers which say "I panic bought...... because I am a penis"
Then go around sticker bombing everyone in the queues :happy2:
...... :grin: :congrats:
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moi?
sticker bomb?
as if i would ever do such a thing :innocent:
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:signLOL:
moi?
sticker bomb?
as if i would ever do such a thing :innocent:
Does "sticker bomb" vinyl wrap exist? That stuff would sell like hot cakes on the mk4 forums. :signLOL:
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yeah it does actually, its technical name is "played out" :laugh: :grin:
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yeah it does actually, its technical name is "played out" :laugh: :grin:
O.. M.. G... it exists! :signLOL:
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moi?
sticker bomb?
as if i would ever do such a thing :innocent:
Does "sticker bomb" vinyl wrap exist? That stuff would sell like hot cakes on the mk4 forums. :signLOL:
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...although if i am completely honest i do occasionally break my own rules :wink:
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i was asked to do something for this peugeot... they didnt specify what.... so i got creative... then ran :grin:
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VC... can you quickly run off a few hundred stickers which say "I panic bought...... because I am a penis"
Then go around sticker bombing everyone in the queues :happy2:
:congrats: :congrats:
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Can't stand the petrol stations cashing in but putting prices up, and now the pubs are trying it on too...
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VC... can you quickly run off a few hundred stickers which say "I panic bought...... because I am a penis"
Then go around sticker bombing everyone in the queues :happy2:
I'd buy that! But it would have to read "I didn't panic buy......cause I'm not a bell*nd"
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It's started -
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16199277
A woman has accidentally set fire to herself after transferring fuel in her home, while the union representing tanker drivers rules out the threat of Easter strikes in the ongoing row over petrol.
The woman, in her 40s, suffered 40% burns and was taken to hospital after petrol ignited in the kitchen of her home in York.
She was attempting to decant the fuel from one container to another using a jug, North Yorkshire Fire and Rescue Service said.
The petrol ignited because she was using her cooker at the time, the fire service added.
Public stupidity at it's best!!
Some people really are Oxygen Thieves :stupid:
Should of put the flames out with shovels. :stupid:
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The only reason I filled up was because if I didn't, I would have no petrol to get to work because of all the nutcases clearing the garages out!!!
Nobody agrees with this panic buying, but unfortunately if you don't panic buy together with these nutcases u will be left with no petrol for yourself once all the garages are dry!! :sick:
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I believe most of them are queueing up to return some now they know there won't be a strike for ages. :rolleye:
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I like the tanker drivers threaten to strike for better conditions and safety and now they have to work 36 hours straight driving around flat out to fill all the stations back up again. :-)
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Oh good so the goverment can panic people again into paying another 32million in tax in another few weeks!
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I like the tanker drivers threaten to strike for better conditions and safety and now they have to work 36 hours straight driving around flat out to fill all the stations back up again. :-)
What goes around...... :signLOL:
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Oh good so the goverment can panic people again into paying another 32million in tax in another few weeks!
If the gov are that desperate to raise 32 Million (A mere drop in the ocean to them) then we are all seriously screwed!
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Someone just phoned in to LBC local radio. His local (independent) petrol station has raised their price to 172.9p per litre unleaded, and cars are still queuing up to buy it.
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That is how supply and demand is supposed to work. I feel sorry for the woman who set herself on fire but government say how about a jerry can in the garage and a woman pours it into a glass jug in her kitchen next to the lit cooker and that's the government's fault ? If I ask someone to put a fork in a drawer and instead they poke themselves in the buttocks with a knife I somehow don't feel to blame.
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i feel sorry for the woman for being dumb, cant be nice
but its just a related story for the media to throw into the mix.
same as a dog attack, when one happens, all the ones that wouldnt normally get printed are hot news, news sells.