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Title: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Digger3 on March 26, 2012, 09:18:11 pm
My pearl/black paint-work shows up every mark, any advice on best polish for paint correction, hopefully removing or masking swirls...
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Andy on March 26, 2012, 10:29:01 pm
i use poor boys black hole
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Phil Miller on March 26, 2012, 10:32:51 pm
i use poor boys black hole

hmm heard of this poor boys alot on here, i take it the stuff makes you poor? i use auto glem super resin on my LC9Z and it looks good, got a linky thingy for poor boys?
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: andrewparker on March 26, 2012, 10:38:10 pm
Yep, Black Hole is excellent stuff and very easy to apply. Try using AG SRP before it, then your choice of wax on top of the glaze.
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Digger3 on March 26, 2012, 10:39:43 pm
Mines LC9Z,,, Just been reading on a detailing thread about autoglym SRP, says to use a clay first whats that ?
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Andy on March 26, 2012, 10:41:18 pm
here you go
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/glazes/poorboys-black-hole/prod_494.html
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Phil Miller on March 26, 2012, 10:42:10 pm
Whats the best wax to go on after AG SRP?
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Digger3 on March 26, 2012, 10:42:18 pm
Yep, Black Hole is excellent stuff and very easy to apply. Try using AG SRP before it, then your choice of wax on top of the glaze.


so is black hole to be used after the AG SRP and before the wax ?
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: andrewparker on March 26, 2012, 10:48:28 pm
Yep, Black Hole is excellent stuff and very easy to apply. Try using AG SRP before it, then your choice of wax on top of the glaze.


so is black hole to be used after the AG SRP and before the wax ?

Yep
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Phil Miller on March 26, 2012, 10:48:40 pm
here you go
http://www.cleanyourcar.co.uk/glazes/poorboys-black-hole/prod_494.html

Thanks mate, althou im not sure i wanna read a page called cleanyourcar as i will see how i do a 2% job and think it looks spanking :signLOL:
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Andy on March 26, 2012, 10:55:29 pm
just thing a few years back we all thought a sponge and a chamie was the way to do it :signLOL:
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Phil Miller on March 26, 2012, 11:01:39 pm
just thing a few years back we all thought a sponge and a chamie was the way to do it :signLOL:

I must admit i thought the AG resin polish was a wax as it goes on so easy and gives a great shine and finish, what wax should be used on top of the SRP?
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Andy on March 26, 2012, 11:03:42 pm
think its down to personnel taste really,some people liked the ag hd wax but i prefer the pete 53 waz
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Greeners on March 26, 2012, 11:11:43 pm
just thing a few years back we all thought a sponge and a chamie was the way to do it :signLOL:

I must admit i thought the AG resin polish was a wax as it goes on so easy and gives a great shine and finish, what wax should be used on top of the SRP?

Find a wax that has good reviews and thats in your budget. It's all much of a muchness really and the only variation is the longevity and the hype!  :laugh: :wink:

For Black I'd go with Dodo Juice Purple Haze. I'd choose that because it is reasonably priced and is a real pleasure to use!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: keano on March 26, 2012, 11:12:37 pm
Black hole has excellent filling abilities if you want to mask the swirly wirlys  :happy2:
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Phil Miller on March 26, 2012, 11:18:38 pm
it looks like good sh*t, just ebay'd it £35 for 250ml  :surprised:

so im now gonna sound very stupid, please bear with me and point out anything im doing wrong

First wash car
then use AG super resin polish
then use dodo juice purple haze

stand back and enjoy???

is that right?
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Greeners on March 26, 2012, 11:22:37 pm
Yeh pretty much. Some mild clay would make a whole heap of difference to and only takes minutes to do!  :happy2:
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Digger3 on March 26, 2012, 11:24:27 pm
Yeh pretty much. Some mild clay would make a whole heap of difference to and only takes minutes to do!  :happy2:

there it is again ! what is clay ?
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Phil Miller on March 26, 2012, 11:25:39 pm
Yeh pretty much. Some mild clay would make a whole heap of difference to and only takes minutes to do!  :happy2:

when do you use clay after wash and before super resin? and how do you use it?

sorry dont mean to sound thick
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: keano on March 26, 2012, 11:31:00 pm
Yeh pretty much. Some mild clay would make a whole heap of difference to and only takes minutes to do!  :happy2:

when do you use clay after wash and before super resin? and how do you use it?

sorry dont mean to sound thick

Clay lifts stubborn paint contaminants and leaves the paint ready for further work.

Rub over car with a lube (quick detailer or diluted shampoo).

I will find you a video  :happy2:
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Greeners on March 26, 2012, 11:31:23 pm
Here you go guys!  :happy2:

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4829
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: keano on March 26, 2012, 11:32:56 pm


 :grin:
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Greeners on March 26, 2012, 11:36:10 pm


 :grin:

Whats with the sunglasses?  :signLOL:
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Digger3 on March 26, 2012, 11:38:38 pm
Here you go guys!  :happy2:

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4829

thanks for that, but doesn't T-Cut do the same thing ?
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Greeners on March 26, 2012, 11:48:15 pm
Here you go guys!  :happy2:

http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=4829

thanks for that, but doesn't T-Cut do the same thing ?

Did you read it and watch the video Keano posted?? :confused:

No, T-Cut is an extremely harsh/crude cutting paste designed to remove dead cells and clear-coat from the surface of paint. And more than likely will just scratch more than anything else. Clay removes contaminate's such as Tree sap, Bird lime and tar without scratching/damaging the top coat. It then prepares the surface for polishing and then waxing.
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Digger3 on March 27, 2012, 08:19:58 am
Did you read it and watch the video Keano posted??


Yes I did and don't recall seeing a comparison to T-cut, That's why I asked the question   

Thank-you for answering it in detail ....  :happy2:
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: suave on March 28, 2012, 12:42:34 pm
If you havent used clay before you'll be amazed.

It's the biz for allowing the polish, glaze and wax to do their jobs properly.

Try Ben at Rubbish Boys - his postal service is fantastic (and he's a nice guy).
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: andrewparker on March 28, 2012, 12:54:08 pm
I'm claying for the first time this weekend. I've been out and bought the Megs Smooth Surface Kit. Really looking forward to giving it a go. I'll be polishing with SRP, then glazing with Black Hole then waxing with Collinite 476s.
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Digger3 on March 28, 2012, 08:48:31 pm
I'm claying for the first time this weekend. I've been out and bought the Megs Smooth Surface Kit. Really looking forward to giving it a go. I'll be polishing with SRP, then glazing with Black Hole then waxing with Collinite 476s.

Yeh same, well almost, I've bought the clay , AG SRP and AG Sealent from Halfrauds, but had to order the poorboys online, hoping to get it for the wk-end  :smiley: 
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: andrewparker on March 28, 2012, 08:55:15 pm
Good man. Pray for good weather!
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: al-tdi170 on April 02, 2012, 01:52:50 am
Chemical guys 50/50 or raceglaze 55
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: david proctor on April 11, 2012, 09:03:00 pm
Poorboy's Black hole and follow it up with some Poorboy's Natty's Blue wax for results like this.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fhh297%2Fdavidproctor_2008%2FP1060303.jpg&hash=0fb2eb5d18d248cb295ad95cbb5971869a588ae4)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fhh297%2Fdavidproctor_2008%2FP1060306.jpg&hash=194cb7d598fdb7c4f2fdfbcf4b1ebc9d615e2f19)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fhh297%2Fdavidproctor_2008%2FP1060287.jpg&hash=363f6b5f2687dbf2ceeef9821cfd6bebb630548e)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fhh297%2Fdavidproctor_2008%2FP1060278.jpg&hash=92c6637073c9823bf14d780504346e8c5fd6854d)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fhh297%2Fdavidproctor_2008%2FP1060285.jpg&hash=e5b3c398b379da95d3f3d277dd1178cc905f75f5)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdaz.co%2Fmedia%2Fhh297%2Fdavidproctor_2008%2FP1060275.jpg&hash=1dfa94cf060254d466a1fec0d54bdeccd6a175b9)
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: andrewparker on April 11, 2012, 10:22:40 pm
You can't beat a bit of Black Hole with Collinite 476s on top.

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fandrew-parker.com%2Fcar-1.jpg&hash=c8056d30736685bbaae106a6fc6b2ea916fd39ce)

(https://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fandrew-parker.com%2Fcar-2.jpg&hash=1ccf934add041bf3726b30ccc6b7117137da4ffc)
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Digger3 on April 11, 2012, 10:28:55 pm
Can you get that at halfrauds ? or is it an online jobby....
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: andrewparker on April 11, 2012, 10:50:13 pm
If you're talking about Poorboys and Collinite, then no, online only.
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Saintsteve on April 12, 2012, 07:04:20 am
If you're talking about Poorboys and Collinite, then no, online only.

Sorry about the thank you... Fat thumbs  :signLOL:

if you have a MotorBitz dealer, all poorboys products are available on their shelves..  :innocent:
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Digger3 on April 12, 2012, 09:58:26 am
Already got and used poorboys black-hole after using AG resin, just looking for a better sealing wax, preferably of the shelf ,as I've got a day of work and it's a dry day  :smiley:
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: andy1979uk on April 12, 2012, 10:06:15 am
So is it best to fork out on a paint correction or would poorboys blackhole achieve a similar result ?
Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Digger3 on April 12, 2012, 10:59:37 am
So is it best to fork out on a paint correction or would poorboys blackhole achieve a similar result ?

I used AG resin polish followed by the poorboys black hole which is really good stuff it masks all the swirls and light marks.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: jason_rmh on April 12, 2012, 11:41:58 am
Already got and used poorboys black-hole after using AG resin, just looking for a better sealing wax, preferably of the shelf ,as I've got a day of work and it's a dry day  :smiley:
Earlier in the thread reccommendations have been:
AG SRP
Followed by poor boys black hole
Followed by dodo juice purple haze or collinite 476s

I'm new to all this too, but going to give the above a go (with collinite).
Jas
Title: Re: Re: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: andrewparker on April 12, 2012, 12:33:11 pm
Already got and used poorboys black-hole after using AG resin, just looking for a better sealing wax, preferably of the shelf ,as I've got a day of work and it's a dry day  :smiley:
Earlier in the thread reccommendations have been:
AG SRP
Followed by poor boys black hole
Followed by dodo juice purple haze or collinite 476s

Yep, but you can't get either of these products off-the-shelf in Halfords. If I absolutely had to buy it from Halfords it would be either the Megs NXT wax, or Auto Glym High Definition wax.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: Digger3 on April 12, 2012, 07:58:33 pm
Already got and used poorboys black-hole after using AG resin, just looking for a better sealing wax, preferably of the shelf ,as I've got a day of work and it's a dry day  :smiley:
Earlier in the thread reccommendations have been:
AG SRP
Followed by poor boys black hole
Followed by dodo juice purple haze or collinite 476s

Yep, but you can't get either of these products off-the-shelf in Halfords. If I absolutely had to buy it from Halfords it would be either the Megs NXT wax, or Auto Glym High Definition wax.




Got some poorboys nattys blue wax, managed to find some of the shelf but not from halfords, and finished the job off before the heavens opened and
when it did rain the water just ran straight of the panels, so well pleased, they had the 30ml panel pots of the dodo juice for £6 so may give it a go to see if it's worth
splashing out £34 for the 250ml...

Title: Re: Black shows-up every mark, best polish for paint correction
Post by: andrewparker on April 12, 2012, 08:41:45 pm
Nothing better than rain on a freshly waxed car :drool: